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pleinmont said:
I am so glad I got unborn again, I hope when I die I stay dead. The idea of being in heaven with the evil Bible god is not my idea of fun.
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Greeting
Everybody has an eternal soul

We read in 1 Thessalonians 5:23 (NKJV) Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you completely; and may your whole spirit, soul, and body be preserved blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Here in 1 Peter 2:24-25 (NKJV) who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live for righteousness--by whose stripes you were healed.
For you were like sheep going astray, but have now returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls.

The Phrase having died to sins, meaning the mortal body our flash is a state of sin, no one is forced to go the our heavenly father, the God that creates humanity

Genesis 1:26-27 (NKJV) Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."
So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

You say that God is evil

We read in John 3:16 (NKJV) For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
Isaiah 53:5-6 (NKJV) But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, And by His stripes, we are healed.
All we like sheep have gone astray; We have turned, everyone, to his own way; And the LORD has laid on Him the iniquity of us all.

Not perish from what your evil sins, he made a way for you and anyone

We read in Romans 6:20-23 (NKJV) For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness.
What fruit did you have then in the things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death.
But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life.
For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord

What did the Lord see in as he looks upon the evil part of man?

We in Psalm 53:2-3 (NKJV) God looks down from heaven upon the children of men, To see if there are any who understand, who seek God.
Every one of them has turned aside; They have together become corrupt; There is none who does good, No, not one.
Genesis 6:11-13 (NKJV) The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.
So God looked upon the earth, and indeed it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted their way on the earth.
And God said to Noah, "The end of all flesh has come before Me, for the earth is filled with violence through them; and behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

What happen to a unborn corrupt person, Purgatory, this a state of perdition, eternal perdition separated of all that is good, remember the body has an eternal soul, the soul of person is in the image of the true God, our God is the God of Israel is also is the God of the gentile
But before all this happens the Lord is a sovereign God, this means that you may confess your sin and ask for forgiveness

Romans 10:8-11 (NKJV) But what does it say? "The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart" (that is, the word of faith which we preach): that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth, confession is made unto salvation.
For the Scripture says, "Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame."

Everyone has a choice, make it a good one
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Homeschoolie said:
Not always true. The numbers of people who are opening their eyes and minds and willing to question religious and spiritual beliefs is staggering. At all age groups, But especially the senior population. I am amazed at how many that were a member of the clergy (all faith flavors) and those who were Christian believers for a life time that are finally waking up and paying attention to the facts and truth, not just what they were told to believe. People are hurting and wanting to find something that actually does as advertised and improves life. They realize that a lifetime of Christianity wasn't it.
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These types of discussions are a bit like statistics. Results vary depending on the sample data collected and generally tend to be skewed towards the particular outcome the person wishes to embrace. Without cited references it's next to impossible to know if the data is accurate, from a reputable source, or just the babbling of a mad man. As others have pointed out why not let others have their beliefs and go your way in peace? Is it a matter of ego, doubt, fear or something else that keeps the argument going? peacelove.jpg
 
Gardenlover said:
These types of discussions are a bit like statistics. Results vary depending on the sample data collected and generally tend to be skewed towards the particular outcome the person wishes to embrace. Without cited references it's next to impossible to know if the data is accurate, from a reputable source, or just the babbling of a mad man. As others have pointed out why not let others have their beliefs and go your way in peace? Is it a matter of ego, doubt, fear or something else that keeps the argument going? View attachment 89515
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What statistics? This was not taken from statistics, but the large numbers of people who are writing about this on ex Christian and other subject matter forums and magazine articles.. And openly speaking to people around them letting others know about their frustration, hurt, pain and much more. Especially how they are angry for being duped. How the whole belief system hurt and in some cases ruined their lives. There may be research polls with statistics. But what people are saying and feeling and have experienced is what matters.
 

Homeschoolie said:
What statistics? This was not taken from statistics, but the large numbers of people who are writing about this on ex Christian and other subject matter forums and magazine articles.. And openly speaking to people around them letting others know about their frustration, hurt, pain and much more. Especially how they are angry for being duped. How the whole belief system hurt and in some cases ruined their lives. There may be research polls with statistics. But what people are saying and feeling and have experienced is what matters.
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Blah blah blah - so YOU say, nothing ever cited - all hearsay and thus thrown out. I'm not eating a piece of your garbage cake. I believe in unicorns - everyone is talking about them so they have to be real. Serious question - why do you or anyone else care what others believe, unless it's to start a war. Chill out already. I'm done with this particular conversation. It's egotistical and quite pointless and infringes on my happy go lucky spirit. Love ya - go in peace.
 
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This thread is not going to alter anyone's stance: Then why do we keep posting words
that others disagree with?
As a believer, I need to remind myself-this is frivolous behavior on my part; yet, I continue to be involved.
 
jerry r. garner said:
This thread is not going to alter anyone's stance: Then why do we keep posting words
that others disagree with?
As a believer, I need to remind myself-this is frivolous behavior on my part; yet, I continue to be involved.
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Yes your right if anything it to informs or to enlighten one's belief it is said one can agree and disagree, but respect each other, we all hope, we all love and we always want the best for everyone we are Americans land of the Brave
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Homeschoolie said:
For the same reason, seeking the truth, better understanding and improvement of life circumstances.
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Haha - -You just keep on seeking and condense your findings for those of us who don't find this "believe it or not" subject terribly important.

You'll enjoy the search and it'll save the rest of us, who are evidently wandering through a meaningless life, a lot of dreary reading.
 
I like the old Dave Allen joke about the priest and the atheist having an argument..
Priest: You're like a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat that isn't there.
Atheist : You too are like a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat that isn't there -
Only you found it !
 
TheWordIsOne said:
Greeting
Everybody has an eternal soul

We read in 1 Thessalonians 5:23 (NKJV) Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you completely; and may your whole spirit, soul, and body be preserved blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Here in 1 Peter 2:24-25 (NKJV) who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live for righteousness--by whose stripes you were healed.
For you were like sheep going astray, but have now returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls.

The Phrase having died to sins, meaning the mortal body our flash is a state of sin, no one is forced to go the our heavenly father, the God that creates humanity

Genesis 1:26-27 (NKJV) Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."
So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

You say that God is evil

We read in John 3:16 (NKJV) For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
Isaiah 53:5-6 (NKJV) But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, And by His stripes, we are healed.
All we like sheep have gone astray; We have turned, everyone, to his own way; And the LORD has laid on Him the iniquity of us all.

Not perish from what your evil sins, he made a way for you and anyone

We read in Romans 6:20-23 (NKJV) For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness.
What fruit did you have then in the things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death.
But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life.
For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord

What did the Lord see in as he looks upon the evil part of man?

We in Psalm 53:2-3 (NKJV) God looks down from heaven upon the children of men, To see if there are any who understand, who seek God.
Every one of them has turned aside; They have together become corrupt; There is none who does good, No, not one.
Genesis 6:11-13 (NKJV) The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.
So God looked upon the earth, and indeed it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted their way on the earth.
And God said to Noah, "The end of all flesh has come before Me, for the earth is filled with violence through them; and behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

What happen to a unborn corrupt person, Purgatory, this a state of perdition, eternal perdition separated of all that is good, remember the body has an eternal soul, the soul of person is in the image of the true God, our God is the God of Israel is also is the God of the gentile
But before all this happens the Lord is a sovereign God, this means that you may confess your sin and ask for forgiveness

Romans 10:8-11 (NKJV) But what does it say? "The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart" (that is, the word of faith which we preach): that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth, confession is made unto salvation.
For the Scripture says, "Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame."

Everyone has a choice, make it a good one
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The Bible is no sort of evidence for anything, imo.
 
Hominids first appeared around 5 million years ago. They evolved through several sub species, ending up with Homo Sapiens, the first being about 200,000 years ago.
Why ? did God not get it right first time? Why did he kill off the dinosaurs? Why wait until 2000 years ago for an itinerant preacher (allegedly the son of God) to appear? Why is there so much pain and suffering in the world? I don't mean man-made events such as war, but innocent children dying of terrible diseases? What's this "benevolent" god doing about it? Expecting us to fall on our knees and worship it?

Sorry folks, we're here as the end product of millions of years of evolution. We are here once and it is for us to work together to make the world a good place to live in. There's no god - It's all down to us.
 
Capt Lightning said:
Hominids first appeared around 5 million years ago. They evolved through several sub species, ending up with Homo Sapiens, the first being about 200,000 years ago.
Why ? did God not get it right first time? Why did he kill off the dinosaurs? Why wait until 2000 years ago for an itinerant preacher (allegedly the son of God) to appear? Why is there so much pain and suffering in the world? I don't mean man-made events such as war, but innocent children dying of terrible diseases? What's this "benevolent" god doing about it? Expecting us to fall on our knees and worship it?

Sorry folks, we're here as the end product of millions of years of evolution. We are here once and it is for us to work together to make the world a good place to live in. There's no god - It's all down to us.
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That is how I see it. If a god exists why does it stay hidden and its existence a matter of faith?
 

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