Would you let him out? Bernie Madoff says he's dying and wants out of prison.

He's dying? So what. Aren't we all? People who show no compassion are the first ones to ask for it.
Here's someone else who asked for Compassionate Release: (thankfully, she died before she could get it)
Susan Denise Atkins (May 7, 1948 – September 24, 2009) was an American convicted serial killer who was a member of Charles Manson's "Family". Manson's followers committed a series of nine murders at four locations in California, over a period of five weeks in the summer of 1969
 
I have to say I would allow him out. I know he stole all that money but over 12 billion dollars have been recovered and returned to the victims now... his own kids have died because of the stress of his crimes, horrible punishment for any parent , and the man has now had a heart attack, and is stage 4 kidney failure.. . He's 81 into his 11th year of a prison sentence.. it was horrendous what he did, but he was not only punished with that very long sentence for his crime but made an example of and deterrent for others ..and rightly so...but when does an eye for an eye make us blind?

Worse criminals serve much shorter sentences...


I may think very differently if I'd been affected by his crime, and it is hard to imagine a less sympathetic non-violent offender than Bernard Madoff but he's been given an undisputed terminal death sentence now of a max life span of 18 months, he's in terminal pain wears a back brace and is confined to a wheel chair, why should you the tax payer continue to pay for his incarceration and his medical bills , why not just allow him out under house arrest for his last year of life, and he can pay his own medical bills, and live his last few but very painful months at home...?
 
I tend to agree with Holly.

I'm also thinking that he may lead authorities to the rest of the missing loot!

My biggest problem with releasing him is that there are so many low-level non-violent offenders in prison that really should be considered for release before a high profile criminal like Madoff.
 
I'm torn. On the one hand, as @hollydolly has pointed out, it irks me that our tax dollars are paying for his incarcerations and additional medical care. One the other hand, releasing him will give him access to a lot more comfort and ease than he would otherwise have, and I don't think he deserves that.

It also occurred to me that if he's released he will have access to the drugs that while not only reduce his pain considerably, but with which he will be able to end his life and his suffering quickly.

There is a part of me that feels his pain and suffering is part of his punishment for his crimes and he should be experiencing every bit of it with minimum intervention. I
 
He is now living out the consequences of his actions which have destroyed so many lives, has he been remorseful, contrite and admitted to his wrongdoing? What has he done to pay restitution? I would say that he was sentenced to prison for all the damage he has caused to others consequently he needs to stay there.
 
Lc jones said:
He is now living out the consequences of his actions which have destroyed so many lives, has he been remorseful, contrite and admitted to his wrongdoing? What has he done to pay restitution? I would say that he was sentenced to prison for all the damage he has caused to others consequently he needs to stay there.
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I agree to an extent, but the executors have paid over 12 billion dollars back to those who lost their money ...
 
no sorry do not agree 'even though the money was given back -in actual fact you could say he caused the death of his family -no else did -dont care if he is old man with kidney failure' dont know all the inns and outs of him -but seems very unsavoury person ...
to get 150 years is some sentence to dish out' so it seems he must deserve it ..leave him where he is ..
 
hollydolly said:
I have to say I would allow him out. I know he stole all that money but over 12 billion dollars have been recovered and returned to the victims now... his own kids have died because of the stress of his crimes, horrible punishment for any parent , and the man has now had a heart attack, and is stage 4 kidney failure.. . He's 81 into his 11th year of a prison sentence.. it was horrendous what he did, but he was not only punished with that very long sentence for his crime but made an example of and deterrent for others ..and rightly so...but when does an eye for an eye make us blind?

Worse criminals serve much shorter sentences...


I may think very differently if I'd been affected by his crime, and it is hard to imagine a less sympathetic non-violent offender than Bernard Madoff but he's been given an undisputed terminal death sentence now of a max life span of 18 months, he's in terminal pain wears a back brace and is confined to a wheel chair, why should you the tax payer continue to pay for his incarceration and his medical bills , why not just allow him out under house arrest for his last year of life, and he can pay his own medical bills, and live his last few but very painful months at home...?
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hollydolly.....Have you ever looked back at some of your post n realize how smart n logical you are? When some of us are angry with what he has done your logic comes thru. Thanks!
 
No, he shouldn't be let out, who cares if he's dying. I wonder how many average people who are not rich or famous, have committed lesser crimes than him and have rotted in jail until death. Guessing it's quite a number of them. Why should this piece of garbage get any special preferential treatment? Keep him there! Saving a couple of bucks in tax dollars to let this character free is a poor excuse to let this particular individual out for his own comfort. Really.
 
SeaBreeze said:
No, he shouldn't be let out, who cares if he's dying. I wonder how many average people who are not rich or famous, have committed lesser crimes than him and have rotted in jail until death. Guessing it's quite a number of them. Why should this piece of garbage get any special preferential treatment? Keep him there! Saving a couple of bucks in tax dollars to let this character free is a poor excuse to let this particular individual out for his own comfort. Really.
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Yes! ... One seriously bad individual who deserves nothing.
 
I have a hard time feeling sorry for his victims . Greed is the only thing that took their money. If I recall correctly the outrageous interest return rates he promised ? If that wasn't a red flag?...Don't feel sorry for them at all.

Again, tugging on my memory here, but most of them were fairly well off in the first place.....they just wanted more, and jumped at his deal. Now if any of them were not sound minded? That's a different story altogether .

As for mercy on him ?...why? many prisoners die in prison. Why not him?
 
Ask me again after we've released thousands of criminals serving terms for far lesser crimes. Can we bring back even ONE of the people who committed suicide after he relieved them of their money without showing them the tiniest bit of compassion. And if not caught, I'm sure that he would be continuing to operate his schemes, ruining even more lives in the process.
 
StarSong said:
Where does it say that if he's released from prison he'll be paying for his own medical care? Paying with what? His assets were seized.
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Then why would he want out if he can't afford medical care, unless he wants commit suicide?

Won't he have Medicare? If he really has no income and is below poverty level, he can get Medicaid. He has relatives and a wife who must live on something. I'll never believe he doesn't have a stash somewhere, or art or jewels.

Not all the money was paid back. The ramifications for all those who lost everything have yet to be known, and they may be pretty awful.

I'm not dispassionate about another human's plight, but this one went too far imho.
 
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RadishRose said:
Then why would he want out if he can't afford medical care, unless he wants commit suicide?

Won't he have Medicare? If he really has no income and is below poverty level, he can get Medicaid. He has relatives and a wife who must live on something. I'll never believe he doesn't have a stash somewhere, or art or jewels.

Not all the money was paid back. The ramifications for all those who lost everything have yet to be known, and they may be pretty awful.

I'm not dispassionate about another human's plight, but this one went too far imho.
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My point about the medical is that in prison or out, taxpayers will be stuck paying his medical bills.

Agree with the rest of your post.
 
Madoff, 81, has terminal kidney failure and a life expectancy of less than 18 months, according to the filing.

the warden did not dispute Madoff's condition or his life expectancy, but noted that Madoff has refused dialysis.

He has stage 4 kidney failure yet refused dialysis. Why?


In September, Madoff submitted a request to the Bureau of Prisons for compassionate release, according to a letter from his attorney, Brandon Sample,

Must be nice to have a lawyer.I Googled Brandon Sample and come away with the notion he isn't cheap to hire.Where does the money come from to pay Brandon Sample?

At his age harm to society would be in the form of wealthy people get special treatment. Refusing dialysis to help him justify release IMO shouldn't help him be released. His crime harmed many so keeping him in prison sends a message that the justice works for all.
 

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