The View Show........"Everytown For Gun Safety" Commercial
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Pappy
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I love this history, guys. Keep it coming if you can. Pappy
SifuPhil
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Not to interrupt the nautical natter here 
, but about that commercial ... if the woman did indeed claim that pepper spray was only effective close to a person, then she wasn't really informed enough to be ON that commercial.
The bit about the woman blowing away hubby ... well, I don't know the particulars but it sounds like your typical over-the-top example of a special-interest group. I hope that lady had a very good lawyer, because shooting an unarmed person is a tough rap to get out from under, no matter HOW much they're attacking you.
, but about that commercial ... if the woman did indeed claim that pepper spray was only effective close to a person, then she wasn't really informed enough to be ON that commercial. The bit about the woman blowing away hubby ... well, I don't know the particulars but it sounds like your typical over-the-top example of a special-interest group. I hope that lady had a very good lawyer, because shooting an unarmed person is a tough rap to get out from under, no matter HOW much they're attacking you.
Not to interrupt the nautical natter here
I carry pepper spray when I am out running. I was attacked by a young Pit Bull maybe 4-5 years ago and now I am gun shy with dogs that come rushing towards me. You think maybe they just want to nip your ankles, but I no longer wait for that. I haven't had to spray a dog yet, and I certainly am not looking to do it, but larger dogs need to beware.
Remember the news clip of the ship returning from Vietnam with all hands on deck in dress whites and when going under the Golden Gate the Hippies dumped paint on them?
she wasn't in Nam. the New Jersey was. but I can believe it happened to other ships
SifuPhil
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Yeah, dogs are a whole 'nuther topic. They love seeing you run! They're instinctively urged to chase any motion so the best thing you could do would be to STOP before you spray them.
You also have to make sure of what type of pepper spray you carry - whether it's fog, stream or gel. Each has a specific application. Also, the strength of the OC is an important factor - if you can, get the police-grade stuff, much more powerful than the consumer brands.
Funny, I just bought a can of pepper spray to carry with me when I walk alone on back wooded trails, mainly for coyotes, but will use it on anyone who tries to harm me. It's UDAP "Mugger Fogger", a 3.1 ounce can15% Oleoresin Capsicum. 3% major capsaicinoids, 15' range.
Mis-communicated. I was just trying to say it was one of the ships returning from Vietnam. I don't remember which one. Sorry for the confusion.
ClassicRockr
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The "pepper spray" statement was not part of the commercial. One of the ladies of The View made that statement. Her think her reasoning for saying that pepper spray or a baseball bat isn't any good for protection is that neither will stop a bullet! If not used effectively, using either (spray or bat) could really piss off a perpetrator w/a gun, to use the gun. If a homeowner has a gun themselves, at least the confrontation will be even!
As far as the Garth Brooks song/video goes, no "special interest" group had anything to do with him singing the song or doing the video.......they just simply like, even loved it. IMO, the lady in the video had every right to shoot her husband. He could have seriously hurt her or even killed her. We all have to protect ourselves.......one way or the other. I use to be an EMT and have seen what "gun violence" can do, but when it comes to the word "protection"......."I will blow that sucker away" is what I hear numerous gun owners say, including my brother.
As far as the Garth Brooks song/video goes, no "special interest" group had anything to do with him singing the song or doing the video.......they just simply like, even loved it. IMO, the lady in the video had every right to shoot her husband. He could have seriously hurt her or even killed her. We all have to protect ourselves.......one way or the other. I use to be an EMT and have seen what "gun violence" can do, but when it comes to the word "protection"......."I will blow that sucker away" is what I hear numerous gun owners say, including my brother.
Not to interrupt the nautical natter here
The bit about the woman blowing away hubby ... well, I don't know the particulars but it sounds like your typical over-the-top example of a special-interest group. I hope that lady had a very good lawyer, because shooting an unarmed person is a tough rap to get out from under, no matter HOW much they're attacking you.
ClassicRockr
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Now, if a person is afraid of guns in general and can't get over that fear, the best thing to do is NOT to own one! Don't know what the effectiveness of Pepper Spray is.........never have heard on any news station where someone actually used it on someone for protection. Same goes for a bat. My brother has a loaded handgun, ready to go and where both him and his wife know where it's at. They live out in the country, part of a mountain area, where their neighbors are some distance away. We live in an apartment complex w/lots of folks living very close to us! If I lived where he does, I'd have the same thing he does.........."lock and loaded"!
SifuPhil
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Ah, okay, thanks for the clarification.
I agree - nothing short of body armor is going to stop a bullet, and even then it's a roll of the dice.
I'm just wary of people that cheer for death, especially when they're part of a large group ...
"Blowing that sucker away" is a great mindset, but I think you have to consider the consequences before you ever pick up a piece. I've said the same thing on several unarmed occasions - that I'm going to "take this guy out" - and it isn't as if I haven't been in some extreme scenarios that would, at least on the surface, justify that kind of thinking.
But the clarity of AAA (After-Action Analysis) has always shown me that, at least in the situations I was in, killing my opponent was NOT the best thing to do. Sure, if I'm facing a gun I'm going to go all-out however I can, or so you'd think - I HAVE faced guns, even been shot (calf), but luckily for me I never had a gun on me at the time, because I'm fairly certain I would have shot them.
Even if I was in the right legally I'm not sure if I could live with that. I probably could, depending on the circumstances, but I don't really want to find out.
Of course, none of this has ANYTHING to do with the small arsenal I have tucked away ...
That seems to be good stuff - very high points for concentration and heat-units. I hope you never have to use it, but if you do, best wishes!
ClassicRockr
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This was the first ship I served on and went on my first WesPac Cruise on in Dec 1968. It was the USS Robison DDG-12. It has a SAM missile launcher in the rear and that is why the "G" was added onto the "DD". My GQ station was "Pointer" in the front (bow) 5" Gun Mount. We were part of a Destroyer Escort Group out of San Diego. We escorted and "plane guarded" for the Carrier Kitty Hawk when she would launch her aircraft to Nam and do training exercises. When doing those "training exercises, we could see a fighter jet come down and across the water firing at the water. That was something to see. Our other duty was supporting troops with 5" gun mount fire at Yankee Station off the Da Nang shoreline. This is an Adams Class Destroyer. The same kind the city of Jacksonville, FL is trying to bring there. The only Adams Class around is the #2 (original one). The other two ships I served on was the Henderson and Hollister, both DD's.
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here's her bio: http://oldbluejacket.com/robison.htm
or the tonkin gulf yacht club: http://jerryjagger.tripod.com/tgyc.html
ClassicRockr
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Thanks for this info about the Robison. I already know it, but some may not.
Yes, it's time to get back to what this Thread is about and put our military stuff in the forum it belongs in.
Yes, it's time to get back to what this Thread is about and put our military stuff in the forum it belongs in.
flphotog
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I just joined so late to the party but I'm a handgun guy myself, love 1911's.