So proud of america for going after isis ...and i am against war

Elyzabeth

Elyzabeth

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I was against out going to Iraq or against any war, but there are legitimate exception's

such as the Second World War, that was defensive and necessary.

ISIS makes the Taliban look like child's play

they are crucifying and beheading people, lining up civilians and killing them , they are the most brutal and at this point,

the most well funded terrorist organization in existence.

They want to set up a Caliphate, which is to be ruled by those same extreme and brutal terrorists.


They as dangerous as the Nazi's were, and for the first time in quite awhile I see Obama taking action,

which is both necessary and justified.

HOORAY for America !!!
 

Yes..I mirror your sentiments...the cruelty is breathtaking..

Trouble is, the Middle East is becoming like one of those ''Whack a mole'' games at the fair where you hit a mole which pops out of a hole with a rubber hammer, only to find that whilst you are dealing with one..two others pop up!!

Will it ever end?
 
Its the only way, they can`t be let to keep going like this.. good on America I say..and good on all the other countries for
helping out with food drops for these poor victims who have had to flee.. so sad life for them is awful at the moment.
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Elyzabeth said:
I was against out going to Iraq or against any war, but there are legitimate exception's

such as the Second World War, that was defensive and necessary.

ISIS makes the Taliban look like child's play

they are crucifying and beheading people, lining up civilians and killing them , they are the most brutal and at this point,

the most well funded terrorist organization in existence.

They want to set up a Caliphate, which is to be ruled by those same extreme and brutal terrorists.


They as dangerous as the Nazi's were, and for the first time in quite awhile I see Obama taking action,

which is both necessary and justified.

HOORAY for America !!!
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America would do well to crack down on Israel which is nasty too!
 
Justme said:
America would do well to crack down on Israel which is nasty too!
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I think what might need to happen in order to hopefully bring peace to the ME, is for the UN to get together, revoke the statehood of Israel & create a new state called Palesrael.

This new country would be co governed equally by both Jews & Muslims, a requirement that would be written into the constitution along with the requirement that there never be a majority of one or the other.

For the first decade or two, a multinational force could be placed there to keep the peace & deal harshly with anyone trying to disrupt it.


 
I understand the sentiments. America is the greatest. My greatest hope is that we look out for our active and retired military. they come home to zilch. My hubby served in Nam rest his soul. If you love what they're doing, then while they are fighting and risking their lives all over the world, let's fight to make sure they come home to proper medical care. okay, coming home to zilch is an exaggeration. I tend to do that. there are benefits, but I propose we cut the benefits of the politicians back and at least repair the broken VA system.
 
They cant possibly be compared !

Israel is fighting for it's life, and it is Hamas that is responsible for the casualties..

they want to keep those people being injured and killed for publicity/ PR purposes, so that they can blame Israel,

which is why they launch their rockets from places such as schools!

Defending the lives of innocent people in Israel, who are under rocket attack is hardly " nasty "!



Don't for a minute compare Israel with ISIS..

which is now burying woman and children alive, their brutality is horrendous!!!

Israel is a Democracy, and our only stable friend The Middle East, at this point.


Shamhat, I agree with you entirely about protecting our brave men and women in the armed forces.
 
I think the administration is doing what they can to alleviate the situation there, and help the innocent people who are victims. Someone mentioned on a radio show that it would be nice if we sent in some people secretly to take out ISIS completely, that would be ideal. As far as Israel, from what I know, they have been occupying land for years now, which rightfully belongs to the Palestinians. This is the main cause of all the turmoil in Gaza. There are far more innocent Palestinians being murdered, in the ongoing fight to gain back their land.
 
Elyzabeth said:
They cant possibly be compared !

Israel is fighting for it's life, and it is Hamas that is responsible for the casualties..

they want to keep those people being injured and killed for publicity/ PR purposes, so that they can blame Israel,

which is why they launch their rockets from places such as schools!

Defending the lives of innocent people in Israel, who are under rocket attack is hardly " nasty "!



Don't for a minute compare Israel with ISIS..

which is now burying woman and children alive, their brutality is horrendous!!!

Israel is a Democracy, and our only stable friend The Middle East, at this point.


Shamhat, I agree with you entirely about protecting our brave men and women in the armed forces.
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But remember, Palestine was an Arab, Muslim land for over 1,000 years prior to the British & the UN taking it away from them & creating the state of Israel on their land.

I think anyone would be fighting mad if that had been done to them.

I'm no anti-Semite, but annexing & partitioning Palestine after the end of WWII was a bad idea that we are now living with the consequences of.
 
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MrJim said:
But remember, Palestine was an Arab, Muslim land for over 1,000 years prior to the British & the UN taking it away from them & creating the state of Israel on their land.

I think anyone would be fighting mad if that had been done to them.

I'm no anti-Semite, but annexing & partitioning Palestine after the end of WWII was a bad idea that we are now living with the consequences of.
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I don't think so..they have lived together in peace for 60 years..it is the uprising of radical Muslims we should be afraid of..
 
MrJim said:
But remember, Palestine was an Arab, Muslim land for over 1,000 years prior to the British & the UN taking it away from them & creating the state of Israel on their land.

I think anyone would be fighting mad if that had been done to them.

I'm no anti-Semite, but annexing & partitioning Palestine after the end of WWII was a bad idea that we are now living with the consequences of.
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I agree completely Mr.JIm.

People seem to forget about the Zionists who were/are terroists in their own right.

Lets not forget the Stern gang and the Irgun.
 
SeaBreeze said:
I think the administration is doing what they can to alleviate the situation there, and help the innocent people who are victims. Someone mentioned on a radio show that it would be nice if we sent in some people secretly to take out ISIS completely, that would be ideal. As far as Israel, from what I know, they have been occupying land for years now, which rightfully belongs to the Palestinians. This is the main cause of all the turmoil in Gaza. There are far more innocent Palestinians being murdered, in the ongoing fight to gain back their land.
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I know what you are saying Seabreeze, but the first thing that comes to my mind (which maybe shouldn't be the first thing out of my mouth) is doesn't America rightly belong to the Indians or is that different? Nations have been overpowering nations forever. Do the Palestinians have some sort of Land Grant that gives them more ownership then other peoples of the Earth? You know me, I don't know a lot, so I have to ask because in my mind, it seems so illogical, or logical, depending on, Denise
 
Jackie22 said:
Nice to see these positive comments about our country and president.
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I somewhat agree but it the American "boots on the ground" that Im worried about. Obama says no but I think he'll change his mind when he has to bring those 30,000+ refuges down from the mountain back to where they cames from and who is going to protect them once they are home? They are surrounded by isis who control most of that region.

The President says "we need to protect our embassy" my question is why not just bring them home? they seem to be useless in that country(Iraq) that continues to fall apart.
 
nwlady said:
I know what you are saying Seabreeze, but the first thing that comes to my mind (which maybe shouldn't be the first thing out of my mouth) is doesn't America rightly belong to the Indians or is that different? Nations have been overpowering nations forever. Do the Palestinians have some sort of Land Grant that gives them more ownership then other peoples of the Earth? You know me, I don't know a lot, so I have to ask because in my mind, it seems so illogical, or logical, depending on, Denise
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American Indians and Mexicans were here first. Posts #58 and #8 in this thread may explain a bit more about the land occupation in Palestine...https://www.seniorforums.com/showthread.php/7395-Do-you-really-care/page4?highlight=palestinians As I've said before, I've never been very politically minded, and didn't pay much attention to these issues during my working years, now that I'm retired, I'm hearing more news, alternative news and both sides of some stories.
 
I agree Mr. Jim and Bee.
hamas may be firing rockets sometimes from protected places, but that is no excuse for destroying hundreds of houses; displacing thousands of people, and not allowing food, water, electricity and fuel in; not for rockets that Israel has a defence system for, and has blockaded the Palestinians for 8 years...

The UK will not militarily intervene with ISIS; fingers burnt too often by following US.
humanitarian aid has already started..
 
Bee said:
I agree completely Mr.JIm.

People seem to forget about the Zionists who were/are terroists in their own right.

Lets not forget the Stern gang and the Irgun.
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I don't think I'd heard of those two organizations, oor if I had, I'd forgottten about them.

But thanks for mentioning them.

It will be good ammo in a debate on this same subject we're having on another forum.
 
nwlady said:
I know what you are saying Seabreeze, but the first thing that comes to my mind (which maybe shouldn't be the first thing out of my mouth) is doesn't America rightly belong to the Indians or is that different? Nations have been overpowering nations forever. Do the Palestinians have some sort of Land Grant that gives them more ownership then other peoples of the Earth? You know me, I don't know a lot, so I have to ask because in my mind, it seems so illogical, or logical, depending on, Denise
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Well that's a legitimate comparison, but nobody I know has ever blamed or criticized the Indians for fighting us for it.

It just so happened that we vastly outnumbered them & had superior weapons, so we won & they lost. But it's still a sad story when one considers what we did to them.

So IMO, the same should hold true for the Palestinians. They are fighting for what they rightfully consider their home. If they win, they get it back. If they lose, it remains Israel until whenever. But I can't see criticizing them for not being happy about having their land taken from them.

I wish there was a non violent way to do it though. I hate terrorism as much as anyone else.
 
Why can't the world just accept our unblemished leadership in all matters? What a wonderful world it would be!
 

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