More race riots in America

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Apparently..a black man was shot dead..which gave rise to mass looting..can anyone explain this??..:cool:

I was in Birmingham..just after Mark Duggan was shot...and I watched the riots..

Just people helping themselves as far as I could see...
 

That's pretty much what I see as well - opportunistic theft. Nothing to do with the central issue. This scenario has been played out many, many times here ... but as always the liberals will find excuses for it.
 
The police were cr*pping themselves..they stood back and watched them raid the phone shop..the electronic shop..the sweet shop..the hat shop..and eventually the bicycle shop..they were comparing their booty..
The next day there was a giant garage sale on a piece of abandoned ground..The bicycles still had their prices attached to them..

No police presence...
 

I think part of the problem is that even WITH a police presence they are ham-strung - they can't use force because that would instantly be turned into a race issue as well.

I smell a new Detroit being born ... anyone with a law-observing nature is going to move out and the town will become another failed city.
 
when shall all men's good be each man's rule, and universal peace lie like a shaft of light across the land...Alfred Lord Tennyson

When that happens, the world will be at peace, no matter the race or religion. We ALL need to learn to see beyond our own prejudices, beyond our pre-conceived notions of who and how other people are, beyond our own little worlds.

Until that happens, we will none of us be at peace with ourselves or others.
 
All those businesses that got looted should close up & move somewhere else.

Leave them with nothing but abandoned buildings & nowhere to shop.

See how long it would take them to start complaining about how there are no businesses in their neighborhood.

Idiots.
 
Things cooled down when that Captain State Trooper took over, but after the "strong-arm" robbery video came out and then the curfew was started, even that State Trooper is disappointed at what happened last night. Is it time for a BIG show of force w/the Army National Guard being brought in. Something has to be done to make the people obey the law! One person was holding a sign that read "Cops Kill Mom's". What the heck was that about?? When the town people said, "No Justice, No Peace"........they really meant it!!
 
As someone far removed from these events I have refrained from commenting, and I still do so.
However, I do have questions.

This article caught my eye this morning and it appears to be packed with facts that might need some serious thought.
Is it true that "a black man is killed every 28 hours by police, security guards or vigilantes?"

August 15, 2014

The killing of Michael Brown by a Ferguson, MO police officer, who was identified Friday as Darren Wilson, and the aftermath in which nonviolent protesters and reporters were met with a violent and militarized police force have exposed something that has been building for years. Many have written about the militarization of the police and the disproportionate impact they have on people of color, but now more Americans are seeing this reality and cannot escape it.

Michael Brown is one of four unarmed black men killed in the last month by police. On July 17, Eric Garner was killed by an illegal chokehold in New York. On August 5, John Crawford was shot in a store in Beavercreek, OH. Just after Brown’s death, on August 9 Ezell Ford, a young man with known mental illness, was shot in Los Angeles.

These are four examples of many, according to a recent study, a black man is killed every 28 hours by police, security guards or vigilantes. The whole nation is experiencing these tragedies; reality is being forced upon us.

The public reaction to the event has been immense. On Thursday evening protests were held from coast-to-coast expressing solidarity with the people of Ferguson and grief for the death of Michael Brown and the deaths of others across the nation killed by police. There are now increasing calls for the demilitarization of the police by the Attorney General and elected officials. And, the DOJ has announced a broad review of police practices that lead to deadly force. People are taking action pressuring the DOJ to act, see: Tell The Department of Justice to end racist and militaristic policing.

This is a teachable moment and an opportunity to advance the cause of transforming the police. Hundreds of thousands of Americans watched events unfold in Ferguson. They saw the police tear gassing a community in mourning, firing at them with rubber bullets and using sound canons to disperse them. They saw military-style police chase them into neighborhoods where they continued to fire tear gas and rubber bullets. They saw reporters abused and arrested as a SWAT team took over a McDonald’s where they were reporting from and other reporters attacked with tear gas and then the police dismantling the journalist’s equipment.

These events led to news outlets reporting on the actions of the police with even greater intensity. In response to the arrest of one of their reporters, Ryan Grim wrote an official Huffington Post statement about the journalist’s arrest which made a key point: “Police militarization has been among the most consequential and unnoticed developments of our time.” The police in Ferguson did an excellent job of drawing the nation’s attention to the reality of 21[SUP]st[/SUP] Century policing and the need to dramatically change its direction.

The rhetoric of a “war” on drugs and “war” on crime is no longer mere rhetoric. Over the last few decades police forces in the United States, down to small town forces, have been militarized by the federal government. Militarization has been part of the escalating clampdown on dissent; and the targets of these extreme policing practices are disproportionately communities of color. Practices like ‘stop and frisk’ and ‘driving while black,’ as well as policies focused on Arabs and Muslims, have shown that racially-based policing is the intentional policy of police across the country.

Much of this has been growing in police departments in secret without transparency or public debate. Would the public want a militarized police force if they had a voice in the decision? Without a democratic process, the US has essentially created a standing army that violates the fundamentals of the US Constitution. The military police force applies the law unequally, violating equal protection of the laws and undermining the justice system as police take on the role of judge and executioner.
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I've heard people on this forum complain about militarised policing and I wonder whether this has something to do with the intensity of the backlash on this occasion.

There is a lot more to read on this subject here: http://www.alternet.org/activism/ho...d-policing?paging=off&current_page=1#bookmark

I'm interested in your responses.
 
Stealing cigars is a crime but only a petty crime. It doesn't demand the death penalty. Anyway, as far as I have heard it, the police were unaware of the robbery at the time of the shooting. Why then was he killed? This is the crucial question that needs to be asked.

I am reminded of an incident in Sydney when a Brazilian student was tazered to death by police after chasing him through the streets. He was in a paranoid state after taking LSD and had stolen two packets of biscuits from a convenience store.

After a coronial inquest the police were charged with criminal assault. Their tactics were heavily criticised at the time.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/police-to...of-roberto-laudisio-curti-20131213-2zb2l.html
 
[h=1]Chief Jackson contradicts Chief Jackson on details of robbery, shooting of unarmed teen[/h]http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...n-details-of-robbery-shooting-of-unarmed-teen
Joan McCarter

Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson has been forced to admit that the surveillance video showing teenager Michael Brown allegedly stealing cigarillos from a convenience store was unrelated to the killing of Brown. During Friday afternoon's press conference, Jackson said that Office Darren Wilson did not not know about the robbery or that Brown was a suspect. He was harassed by Wilson because "he was walking down the middle of the street blocking traffic. That was it."

Here's the problem. In his morning press conference, Jackson very clearly implied that Wilson was looking for Brown on that Ferguson street. Here's the transcript of Jackson's words from this morning.

At 11.52, dispatch gave a description of a robbery suspect over the radio. A different officer arrived at the store where the strong-arm robbery occurred.

A further description, more detailed, was given over the radio, and uh, stated the officer was walking toward—uh, the suspect was walking toward QuikTrip. Our officer left the sick call, he encoutered, uh uh, encountered the, uh, I’m sorry.

At 12.01 our officer encountered Michael Brown on Canfield Drive. At 12.04 a second officer arrived on the scene, immediately following the shooting and at 12.05 a supervisor was detached, dispatched to the scene, and subsequent officers arrived.

The officer who left the "sick call" was Wilson. Jackson is clearly connecting the two events here, the robbery, the dispatch call over the radio, Wilson leaving the call he was on and then encountering Brown. Clearly, that was bullshit. Why Jackson stood up in front of the nation on live television and put out this lie isn't clear. Incompetence? That's a given after what we've witnessed for the past week. Disinformation? If that wasn't the intent, it was the result.

It's time for some housecleaning in the Ferguson police department, starting at the top.


The friend that was with Brown stated that there was a confrontation between Brown and the officer about being in the middle of the street.....Four witnesses have stated that the officer shot him in the back twice as Brown was running away, then shot him several times again after he was down. There is one witness that was on internet, talking to friends, at the time it happened...talking and posting pictures at the same time...he stated he was shot in the back while running away as it happened.

 
No matter how much was wrong with the police behavior the kid was a a punk and not high on anything but himself...
 
Do you think the rioting and chaos would continue if the media would fold up shop and leave? Do you believe a lot of what goes on is to get attention on the news?
 

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