What our leaders are saying must be done about ISIS.....NOW!

Elyzabeth

Elyzabeth

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"Gen. Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said ISIS posed an “immediate threat” to the West, in addition to Iraq, because thousands of Europeans and other foreigners who have joined the group and have the passports to travel freely could carry the fight back to their home countries — including the United States.

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel was equally emphatic. ISIS, he warned, is “beyond anything that we’ve seen” because it is extremely well-financed and has demonstrated sophistication and tactical skill in its campaign to impose an Islamic caliphate by brute force. Other analysts have gone so far as to describe ISIS as one of the most successful extremist groups in history because of its ability to seize and hold large sections of two countries — Iraq and Syria — with what seems like blinding speed." NY Times

Approximately 30 Young Muslims are said to be leaving the UK every month to go to fight with ISIS.
The beheadings are helping ISIS in their recruiting...?

What kinds of twisted people are going there..?

They will come back and turn the deadly skills they have learned on the UK.


Why aren't other countries helping to defeat ISIS... who are every bit as bad as the Natzi's?

Why aren't moderate Imams and Muslims coming forward
to help to take energy away from these thugs who are going to behead innocent people...?
 

The problem with Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel and Gen. Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, is these type of guys seem to love war and will do their best to convince the Commander-In-Chief that putting U.S. troop on the ground is the best way to go.
Its been this way with all Past Presidents,hopefully Obama will stick to his word "no US ground troop".
 
A head of steam is building to ready the public to support another war...
 

I do not believe in war !
I opposed Vietnam I opposed going into Iraq...

This enemy ,however is different , in it's brutality and as a serious threat to world peace.
They are brutal beyond compare and need to be stopped justifiably, just as the Nazi's HAD TO BE STOPPED...

Very different then other wars/ confrontations.

WW 2, was the only just war we have had since the American Revolution..
but ISIS MUST be stopped

Learn more about it, you will be appalled..
and you will understand what I'm talking about !!!
 
I agree with you about the concept of a just war with the exception of the American Revolution, which was an uncalled for rebellion against legitimate authority. In fact, had we just become a Commonwealth nation, we wouldn't have had to lead all the wars up until the ones we find ourselves involved in today...
 
Are you joking?

The American Revolution was absolutely a just war !

We were being taxed like crazy.. and we had absolutely no representation, or say in anything !
 
Just or not, here we are, the war drums sounding against ISIS, the worst we've seen. I'm in favor of asking the French to send in the Foreign Legend to handle ISIS. We might get a Turk brigade to assist them, along with the kurds. Maybe the Australians can contribute a few men to make up a Regiment for this ISIS duty. Shouldn't take long to move them out of Iraq. Lindsey and McCain wouldn't be happy but they're never happy for long anyway. No sweat. Somebody call the President. The Brits think we're dragging our feet.
 
Don't worry Drifter. Our PM is itching to send troops to engage ISIS but he has to wait for Obama to make the first move. As soon as he does our men and women will be committed. He can act alone on that. Doesn't even need the consent of Cabinet, let alone the Parliament.

By coincidence he is doing very badly in the polls and needs some headlines other than his government's ineptitude. You can count on the Aussies being there.
 
I'm hoping the President stands his ground. Let's wait and see how bad this ISIS bunch is. I hope no bombs on Syria. We don't even know which bunch in Syria is the ISIS. Let's settle down and see what the Kruds can do, along with the balance of Iraqis who might want to save their country. They've got a new President now. Let's rest easy and keep our eye on the situation. The President can eat three squares a day, get in a few holes of golf now and then. Let's hang on to our hats and not get our blood pressure up. This is really old hat to us by now, surely.
 
Wait and see how bad this bunch is????

They are crucifying people

beheading people

burying women and children alive...

What is it exactly that you think we need to wait for???
 
Perhaps an assurance that military intervention won't be counter productive ?
Before committing the military must know that they can actually defeat IS.
Asymmetrical warfare is very tricky.
 
Let's hope Oz and the rest of the Commonwealth nations aren't a bunch of sooks and step up...
 
Ralphy1 said:
Let's hope Oz and the rest of the Commonwealth nations aren't a bunch of sooks and step up...
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You haven't been paying attention
Dame Warrigal said:
Don't worry Drifter. Our PM is itching to send troops to engage ISIS but he has to wait for Obama to make the first move. As soon as he does our men and women will be committed. He can act alone on that. Doesn't even need the consent of Cabinet, let alone the Parliament.

By coincidence he is doing very badly in the polls and needs some headlines other than his government's ineptitude. You can count on the Aussies being there.
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So you are off to bomb Libya and Syria as well now?
allegedly, the US was annoyed that Egypt and UAE bombed Lybia without telling US.
civilians don't appear to matter any more.....
 
Collateral damage is unfortunate, but the price some must pay for the freedom as we see it...
 
It is called collateral damage, and it is an unfortunate consequence of bringing freedom American style to these people...
 
It slightly worries me that your Chief-of-staff is considered a leader.
is he elected?
not very democratic....surely...
 
Why is it that when you talk about taking an action, some people will turn it into the very biggest thing that could possibly be done?

No, we are not going to go bombing countries, we are trying to contain a horror upon the face of mankind.


Needs to be done or they'll be "over here", in BOTH of my countries!
 
Oh, that Chief, Obama probably doesn't listen to him. Do you remember the Cuban Missile crisis? Kennedy didn't listen to his chief thank goodness. And it seems that we finally are getting some Arab countries to help out, like in Libya...
 
I do remember Cuba .....I was very young!

I know....I really think that our interference tends to hinder; and we do change allegiances so fast...your enemy' enemy is now your friend and all that?...
 

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