Demonstrators across the country violated social-distancing orders.....

There's no health insurance on UEI...COBRA is ridiculously expensive.
Many of these governors and mayors seem to be on a power Trip,I believe the first was a protest of her prohibiting certain items for sale but allowing booze,beer,lottery and weed sales,tax revenue,anyone?
In NYC,the idiot Mayor is suggesting that people "spy" on each other for social distance violations by filming with their cellphones and enforcement will be dispatched to deal with.However,in the meantime the homeless are taking over the subway system,spewing God only knows what all over the place,treating the people who need to use the system to get to work,can't fix that,it's the MTAs issue?
 

Gardenlover said:
Playing the devil's advocate here - I wonder how many of the protesters are in dire straits, can't feed their families, fear losing their homes and are feeling utterly hopeless. The cure is becoming worse than the curse for many.

Back to my normal views now.
Blocking medical personnel is asinine as these folks are giving everything they can to save others.

Once social distancing restrictions are lifted, good luck trying to reinforce them.

A tipping point is coming.
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Spoken like a true Libra. I do the same; bring up opposite points of view, not to argue,but i want everyone to understand all the different perspectives! This is interesting!!
 
Giantsfan1954 said:
but allowing booze,beer,lottery and weed sales,tax revenue,anyone?
In NYC,the idiot Mayor is suggesting that people "spy" on each other for social distance violations by filming with their cellphones and enforcement will be dispatched to deal with.
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And the Fine is $1000..... nice add to the tax coffers.....
Im in the camp of getting things open.... Yes its going to be different, but it must be done... and yes more people are going to die....
The draw of the bait you can make more money by staying home than working SCARES THE HELL OUT OF ME!
There is a balance in here somewhere that HAS to be found... And all this will help with the next pandemic... and there will be one
 
Giantsfan1954 said:
There's no health insurance on UEI...COBRA is ridiculously expensive.
Many of these governors and mayors seem to be on a power Trip,I believe the first was a protest of her prohibiting certain items for sale but allowing booze,beer,lottery and weed sales,tax revenue,anyone?
In NYC,the idiot Mayor is suggesting that people "spy" on each other for social distance violations by filming with their cellphones and enforcement will be dispatched to deal with.However,in the meantime the homeless are taking over the subway system,spewing God only knows what all over the place,treating the people who need to use the system to get to work,can't fix that,it's the MTAs issue?
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That is one thing that truly bothers me; that we could easily slide into a police state and people will do so willingly. This is not Nazi Germany for heaven's sake.
 
Ruthanne said:
Thanks Pops! I just looked at my quoted post and see all the typos...I sound illiterate..I was using my phone to post and using the speaking option. It often messes up what I say...lol
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I go thru the same thing with the voice text on the phone....drives me nuts!
 
Many of the protesters are small business owners who have worked for decades to build up their businesses and are in danger of losing everything~the businesses, their homes, their families, and savings. Unemployment benefits are not always an option for business owners. The amount would NOT cover business expenses and losses anyway. They are fighting for their lives right now. Consider that before you make snap judgements.
Suicide is way up. I wonder how many of those who have taken their own lives were struggling with a business that is going under because of all these situations that are beyond their control? Perhaps only business owners or former business owners can understand the enormity of these unusual times.
The business owners have done nothing wrong. The time invested in building a business can never be recouped.
 
RadishRose said:
I would like to know which of them ends up killing an innocent by bringing the disease to them. Charge them with premeditated murder! Selfish jerks...it's all about them in their tiny, infantile minds!
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I agree To a certain extent. If my disabled son ends up with this stupid virus, I have decided I will sue the company who is caring for him for wrongful death If he were to die. I think this is what the families of people who died in nursing homes should do as well. It’s criminal.
 
C'est Moi said:
As American citizens, it is their right, whether others agree with it or not. Thankfully we do not live in a police state and I for one do not wish to give up any of my rights. I'll keep staying in my home because I believe it is the correct thing to do, but I would not like to be forced to do so.
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This is not an unusual step, bathhouses were closed to prevent the spread of HIV. People with the disease were arrested as they continued to spread it. If you have TB, you can be quarantined. Etc.
 
Aneeda72 said:
I agree To a certain extent. If my disabled son ends up with this stupid virus, I have decided I will sue the company who is caring for him for wrongful death If he were to die. I think this is what the families of people who died in nursing homes should do as well. It’s criminal.
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I think that nursing homes and care home needs to increase cost to patient to pay for legal or insurance to protect against this kind of stupid behavior. One reason why costs are so high is because of all the lawsuits. Why don't you tell the care giver or nursing home you are going to sue, if he dies. Let me know how that turns out.
 
todalake said:
I think that nursing homes and care home needs to increase cost to patient to pay for legal or insurance to protect against this kind of stupid behavior. One reason why costs are so high is because of all the lawsuits. Whhy don't you tell the care giver or nursing home you are going to sue, if he dies. Let me know how that turns out.
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Has nothing to do with the worker, it has to due with management not providing proper care, training, and necessary equipment to prevent exposure to such a helpless population.

Btw, I did sue the previous home my son was in after the aide dropped him,and his wheelchair, into a river onto a concrete pillar. He was life flighted from the “accident“. If my hand had been on that wheelchair, I’d still be in prison. There wouldn’t be lawsuits if they were not needed.

As for the trained paramedic staff that managed to let go of his wheelchair, he still was employed by the company.
 
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Aneeda72 said:
This is not an unusual step, bathhouses were closed to prevent the spread of HIV. People with the disease were arrested as they continued to spread it. If you have TB, you can be quarantined. Etc.
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Closing bath houses is a far cry from forcing people to give up their freedom.
 
todalake said:
I think that nursing homes and care home needs to increase cost to patient to pay for legal or insurance to protect against this kind of stupid behavior. One reason why costs are so high is because of all the lawsuits. Why don't you tell the care giver or nursing home you are going to sue, if he dies. Let me know how that turns out.
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Agree. If people believe the level of care is so bad there is always the option of keeping the loved one at home and caring for them yourself.

I really despise this litigious society. Everyone wants to get paid.
 
C'est Moi said:
Agree. If people believe the level of care is so bad there is always the option of keeping the loved one at home and caring for them yourself.

I really despise this litigious society. Everyone wants to get paid.
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Well, I would be happy for you to try and care for a 6 foot male who is total care, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Go ahead, plenty jobs available in the field. People who make such ignorant comments are unaware of the amount of care a disabled person needs. Let alone a total care person.
 
C'est Moi said:
Closing bath houses is a far cry from forcing people to give up their freedom.
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Well, they gave up the ability to go to bathhouses, which was a good thing.

But you are free to go out as much as you want, not wear a mask, and engage in as risky behavior as you want. As far as I know you could go to one of the demonstrations. No one is stopping you. I certainly am not stopping you.
 
Aneeda72 said:
Well, they gave up the ability to go to bathhouses, which was a good thing.

But you are free to go out as much as you want, not wear a mask, and engage in as risky behavior as you want. As far as I know you could go to one of the demonstrations. No one is stopping you. I certainly am not stopping you.
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Correct.
 
Aneeda72 said:
Well, I would be happy for you to try and care for a 6 foot male who is total care, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Go ahead, plenty jobs available in the field. People who make such ignorant comments are unaware of the amount of care a disabled person needs. Let alone a total care person.
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Yeah. And then tie up the courts with ridiculous litigation when others can't provide it for you. You may dismount your high-horse since obviously you aren't caring for him, either. And FYI, I am far from ignorant so keep your name-calling to yourself. Bye now.
 
C'est Moi said:
Yeah. And then tie up the courts with ridiculous litigation when others can't provide it for you. You may dismount your high-horse since obviously you aren't caring for him, either. And FYI, I am far from ignorant so keep your name-calling to yourself. Bye now.
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I didn’t call you a name. I won’t dismount my high horse, he is very high and I might break something. I get into the saddle by climbing on my soap box. No, I can’t care for my disabled son anymore who I adopted at the age of 2. So what?

I am 73 years old and he is almost 40, total care as I have said. I said you were ignorant, I stand by that, and that is not name calling, it’s descriptive of the lack of knowledge you have about my sons condition.
 

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