What our leaders are saying must be done about ISIS.....NOW!

That is what I mean.
still many different groups; each with their own agenda; some more vicious than others...I was in fact just saying that the terminology varies from day to day; but the rebels/terrorists want to get rid of Assad.
be careful what you wish for...

I wasn't particularly disagreeing.....
 

nwlady said:
.......There's two things that will get me riled and one is someone from other than the US (non-citizen) putting my country down. I am a citizen and I will bitch all I want, but don't be putting my country down until theirs is the perfect haven, with perfect people. The other thing is when we get into "personal" attacks on each other, yuck. I don't want to do that, and try not to. I am so not perfect.

I see the lack of unity being the world's, biggest problem. As long as we all have egos, that won't change though, imo;)

And there is a 3rd thing as well, stereotyping like using a term like, all you Americans, or all you this or that. I just need to chalk that up to bigotry, racism, and the biggy "ignorance".
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The way I look at it, what happens or is decided in your country....affects me. What happens in my country (think our dirty oil for example!!!) or what happens in France or Germany or Ukraine....will ultimately in some way...affect me and you. We are residents of a global village. And considering that I am no less hard on my own government, and considering the global ripple effect...I think everyone should critique/criticize governments worldwide. And take note, my criticisms are always aimed at government and like you, I try very hard to retain my civility when I'm talking to the average citizen of any country. Canada has it's share of uninformed or ignorant or down-right rotten folks as well as intelligent, kind, etc., just as the US has it's share of all of the above if you know what I mean. Same goes for the UK, France, Syria, Palestine, Israel, etc. But when the policies of the various governments cause negative results and blowback on the world in general and their own country or the 'target' country specifically, then every last one of us is obligated to speak up if we care about the world, our families, our families futures.

By limiting the ability of 'non-citizens' to criticize any governments actions, we reinforce the lack of unity that you suggest is the worlds biggest problem. So if you want to offer up a rant about Stephen Harper getting rid of our climate scientists so that he can trash Canada's environment you'll have me providing a back up chorus.
 
Vivjen said:
That is what I mean.
still many different groups; each with their own agenda; some more vicious than others...I was in fact just saying that the terminology varies from day to day; but the rebels/terrorists want to get rid of Assad.
be careful what you wish for...

I wasn't particularly disagreeing.....
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You're right, there are many different groups but we still need to be careful of what we accept as gospel and we must look behind the public facts in order to find out more and possibly the real truth.

You say the rebels/terrorists want to get rid of Assad. Does that statement take into account the 1991 American decision to destabilize Syria? And do we know why the terrorists claim they want to get rid of Assad?

I came across this post from a Marine who was stationed in Syria between 2004 and 2010 and the picture he paints is about a modern country and cities, with people who were probably not much different than where you are and he closes the post with this line, "“We (the Syrian people) coexisted peacefully for centuries, and need neither brutal dictators nor western intervention.”


"http://levantreport.com/2014/06/30/damascus-and-baghdad-a-marines-syrian-education/

By the way, it's an excellent post and for the sake of seeing another side of the story, it would be good if everyone read it.
 
Vivjen said:
Or the Mayor of Toronto?!
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You want to 'rant' about Rob Ford? Go for it. He has only himself to blame for his notoriety. The only ones I feel sorry for in this sorry drama is his kids, because they had/have to go to school with every other kid hearing about their fathers ridiculous behaviour. And we all know that kids can be so cruel.
 
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