What Is A Man? - Esquire's View

grahamg said:
Maybe, but then again, in the nicest possible way, who is there to cope with our own failings. Do you think everyone should be alike, or even like you, (BTW I hate b/s as much as the next person, and I'm hearing a surfeit of it away from these forums right now!). :( .
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I know we're not all alike. I never said we had to be. 😉
 
sorry, that came out wrong. I LOVE NEW YORK..and as Humprhey Bogart said in Casablanca, there are sections of NY the nazis had better not invade.
 
In The Sticks said:
I wanna see your original post...I'd likely agree with it.

Too many experts on other people's lives, and they mostly seem to be located in a small handful of places.
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All the so-called experts is one reason everyday life is such a mess these days. People are led to believe they can't even conduct their own everyday lives without all of this outside input. One of the nuttiest examples I read about awhile back: young people led to believe they can't move into their own adult lives without 'therapy'- 'how else can you know what you want, and know who you are?' GAHHH!!!! I wonder what it'll take for people to realize all it is is a money-making industry.
 
JaniceM said:
All the so-called experts is one reason everyday life is such a mess these days. People are led to believe they can't even conduct their own everyday lives without all of this outside input. One of the nuttiest examples I read about awhile back: young people led to believe they can't move into their own adult lives without 'therapy'- 'how else can you know what you want, and know who you are?' GAHHH!!!! I wonder what it'll take for people to realize all it is is a money-making industry.
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It's more about control than making money.

Since we can't conduct our own lives without outside input, it stands to reason we are incapable of governing ourselves. It's easy enough for politicians to find someone who will espouse whatever position is desired, label that person an "Expert," then the masses will censor each other as we all strive to show how smart we are by agreeing with "the experts." After all, if people believe themselves to be incapable of managing their own lives, who do the rest of us think we are in having influence over them via representative government?

Lots and lots of current example I won't stir the pot with.
 
Gaer said:
a real man,in my opinion:
stands behind his word,
has his own value system
has his own moral code
has his own spirituality
has an adventurous spirit
slightly rebel,rough, rugged spirit
not fully tamed and won't be
has dignity,class and his own style
commands respect
confident and stands alone
combination o fstrength and gentleness
bold and unafraid
won't take any crap from anyone
intelligent!
makes his own path and walks it.
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I’m sure there are some men like this
I’m sure there are some women like this
But nobody is ALL of these at all times.
And although these sound great on paper or in text, when you really look at some of them .... they couid be deceptive.

For instance :
A man who stands behind his word?
What exactly is his word.? He might not have many good words or even know any.

He has his own value system?
Yes! They all do but that doesn’t mean it’s a necessarily a good one

He has his own moral code?
Once again, unless he’s got a great moral compass otherwise it’s useless.

Has his own spirituality?
So do all those cult leaders.

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Has his own adventurous spirit?
Sure. He might love being out with the boys all weekend on his ATV .

Slightly rough rugged spirit whose not fully tamed and won’t be?
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See above sentence. Not fully tamed and won’t be could open up a whole new can of worms.


Has, dignity , class .... ( all good )
...... and his own style? Sure. Don’t they all? Doesn’t mean it’s a good one.
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Commands respect. That’s definitely a good one but some of the most boring people in the world command respect.

Confident and stands alone? Ok! Where are you in all this then?

Combination of strength and gentleness?
This might describe most of the gay population.
( note: not knocking gay people whatsoever )
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Bold and unafraid?
Not always a good thing?
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Won’t take crap from anyone? Define crap? This could translate to , he doesn’t get along with anyone.

Intelligent? So is the local librarian with zero sex appeal.

Makes his own path and walks it?
So do all homeless people.
 
Actually a sense of humour wasn’t even mentioned or a good conversationalist?
What about a man who can cook?
Or a man who is a generous caregiver?
A handy man?

Personally I love a man with a good sense of humour, is tolerate of my faults and is kind and loyal. All the rest is just gravy; even looks and they fade.
 
@Keesha said
But nobody is ALL of these at all times.
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Yup. It's a range of behaviours over a period of time that forms one's core. A reasonably narrow range and reasonable consistency is what you measure it by, with Intent being the overriding driver.

Being situationally frustrated and being intentionally mean might look the same on the surface, but they're not.
 
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Keesha said:
Actually a sense of humour wasn’t even mentioned or a good conversationalist?
What about a man who can cook?
Or a man who is a generous caregiver?
A handy man?

Personally I love a man with a good sense of humour, is tolerate of my faults and is kind and loyal. All the rest is just gravy; even looks and they fade.
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Oh yes, Humor is probably the most important. I didn't want to take up the whole page!!! I could have added a lot more. Your post is SO FUNNY!!!!! Keesha, You're adorable!!!!
 
In The Sticks said:
Discretion prevents me from commenting.

The top guy is in love with his mirror, but the bottom guy needs to ask if his shoes are tied.
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I don't know....the top guy dressed like the blond princess in frozen and did lip sync to let it go and danced around on tv for his daughter.
 
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