Fine, Jail And/Or Job Loss For Refusing Vaccine?

OneEyedDiva

OneEyedDiva

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Although states may have the authority to implement this, how many would really do it? How many employers would lay off or fire employees for refusing the vaccine? Boy, if they think there's anarchy now...how much worse would this mandate cause it to get? I would not want to be forced to take the vaccine, especially if it contains pork products and just on GP. I'd like to know what you all think of this.
https://www.pix11.com/news/national...-who-refuse-coronavirus-vaccine-attorney-says
 

Funny that this comes so soon after this thread: https://www.seniorforums.com/threads/worrying-do-you-worry.51616/ :)

Without a specific vaccine and accomanying information about effectiveness rate, rollout timeline, side effects and other data, my greater concerns are what's right in front of us: schools reopening in much of the country and fresh virus hot spots in the US, Europe and other parts of the world, etc.
 
And they laughed at me when I asked that in my thread. And told me there was NO way they could do that. They can do whatever they want and get away with it. That's how it works in the world anymore. Whose gonna give a crap? We don't have the freedom or the rights that we think we do.
 

More alarmist stuff. My question is, why wouldn't you want a vaccine? Side effects? Think of all the things posted on here about the long lasting effects of covid. Did you get the pneumonia vaccine? Do you get a flu shot? I'd like to get out of my house and on a plane and a cruise ship again. You don't wanna take the vaccine, fine by me. But I'll be first in line.
 
CarolfromTX said:
More alarmist stuff. My question is, why wouldn't you want a vaccine? Side effects? Think of all the things posted on here about the long lasting effects of covid. Did you get the pneumonia vaccine? Do you get a flu shot? I'd like to get out of my house and on a plane and a cruise ship again. You don't wanna take the vaccine, fine by me. But I'll be first in line.
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Not sure I'd be FIRST in line, but if it's shown to be safe and effective, I'll for sure get one. I believe in science and vaccines.
 
CarolfromTX said:
More alarmist stuff. My question is, why wouldn't you want a vaccine? Side effects? Think of all the things posted on here about the long lasting effects of covid. Did you get the pneumonia vaccine? Do you get a flu shot? I'd like to get out of my house and on a plane and a cruise ship again. You don't wanna take the vaccine, fine by me. But I'll be first in line.
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My doctor did talk me into taking the pneumonia vaccine but I've never gotten the flu shot. Hearing my sister's experience with pneumonia twice swayed me to getting that vaccine. The year I thought seriously about taking the flu shot, I found out the efficacy was only 40%. I decided to just keep my immune system boosted. I posted other concerns about the vaccine in another COVID thread.
 
I've gotten flu shots for at least the past 5 years and will continue to do so. 40% effectiveness beats 0%, which is what I'd have without it.

Having had the for-real actual flu a couple of times in my life, I'm crystal clear how incredibly sick it can make me, a very healthy person with zero underlying conditions.

People often say they've got the flu when they're in fact dealing with head colds, chest colds or stomach bugs.
A cold is to influenza what a hangnail is to a broken arm.
 
I also got talked into that new shingles vaccine by my doctor, even though I already had the previous shingles vaccine. It required two shots, a nuisance but I'm glad I had it. Shingles sounds horrible.
 
Aunt Bea said:
IMO the goal should be 100% and I will take the COVID19 vaccine voluntarily when it is available.

Like many things, I doubt that it will be a 100% legal mandate to be vaccinated but social pressure will come into play as schools, employers, the military, passport applications, etc... require proof of vaccination.
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So if employers require it what happens to those of us who can't take it? We end up unemployed & homeless?
 
Although it might remind some of the Nazi/Jewish emblem/tattoo business AND be impossible to police, I've always thought that those who choose to not be vaccinated should wear an emblem of some sort to let others know that you or your child is not vaccinated so they can decide if they want to be around you.

A tee shirt with an emblem would do the job.
 
I think there needs to be more research done and publicized about just what are legitimate reasons for not taking an immunization, flu or any other kind. Here, people who have any patient contact in healthcare settings & refuse flu shots are required to wear masks all year round to keep their jobs and this has been the case for quite a few years. I don’t plan to be the first in line to get the COVID vac but certainly will get it when it is declared to be safe & effective for the majority.
 
OneEyedDiva said:
My doctor did talk me into taking the pneumonia vaccine but I've never gotten the flu shot. Hearing my sister's experience with pneumonia twice swayed me to getting that vaccine. The year I thought seriously about taking the flu shot, I found out the efficacy was only 40%. I decided to just keep my immune system boosted. I posted other concerns about the vaccine in another COVID thread.
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I feel the same way. I’ve never had a flu shot but I never get the flu. What surprised me most was that people who got the flu shot got incredibly sick and it still didn’t stop them from getting the flu so I decided to just boost my immune system instead.
Im not sure how they will handle if here in Canada.
Im not anti vaccine. I just want to know more about it before I commit.
 
BUT the government reduced the effectiveness to only 50% (saw that in another discussion and it has been validated by others outside of this forum) - I don't want it if it won't work!!
 
I will only take if a covid vaccine once i’m convinced it is 100 % safe.There are viruses that have been around much longer for which they still don’t have one.So one that has been rushed through i would be suspicious of.And would it be a one off or annual event?
And i’ve had a communication from the BBC this afternoon asking what I’ve been asking-namely how do you vaccinate the entire planet?
I remain convinced we just have to learn to live normally with this-otherwise we just exist.I have been existing for seven months and with no prospect of the things I enjoy coming back-at least with crowds-I will be just existing for many months to come.I need to live.I think everyone does.
But I am not convinced there will even be a vaccine.I am amazed at the assumption people have that there is bound to be one.
 
CarolfromTX said:
More alarmist stuff. My question is, why wouldn't you want a vaccine? Side effects? Think of all the things posted on here about the long lasting effects of covid. Did you get the pneumonia vaccine? Do you get a flu shot? I'd like to get out of my house and on a plane and a cruise ship again. You don't wanna take the vaccine, fine by me. But I'll be first in line.
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You have every right to make your health decisions. Just as I have every right to make mine.
No, I've never had a flu shot, pneumonia shot, shingles shot or colonoscopy. I don't intend to get one & no one can force me get get one.
 
gennie said:
Although it might remind some of the Nazi/Jewish emblem/tattoo business AND be impossible to police, I've always thought that those who choose to not be vaccinated should wear an emblem of some sort to let others know that you or your child is not vaccinated so they can decide if they want to be around you.

A tee shirt with an emblem would do the job.
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You would have made a great SS guard.
 
I get a flu shot yearly and have for some time. never got the flu from the shot, or any other side effects. but flu shots have been around a long time. it would be years before I would trust a shot for the corona virus if ever at all. I suspect most of the hype and fear the media is pushing on Covid19 will be over on November 4th.
 
win231 said:
You would have made a great SS guard.
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Why? I call it common sense and concern for my fellow citizens.

Small children play up close and personal. If a toddler goes to a play group or child care facility, their parents should know if there are un-vaccinated children there so they can make an informed decision about leaving their children there.
 
I suspect most of the hype and fear the media is pushing on Covid19 will be over on November 4th.
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MacGeek, fear of the disease will not be over on November 4, unless there is a miraculous vaccine between now and then. But plenty of other fears will be over! (Enough said.)
 
There has been so much hype and fear over this virus, and its "Cure" is being so rushed, that I will probably remain a bit sceptical about any vaccines until several weeks have passed and large numbers have been vaccinated. Given the past history of so many drugs, and all their Side Effects, we will be Very cautious about joining those who get vaccinated. Wearing a mask, and avoiding others is a bit difficult, but I have little faith and trust in the Drug Companies.
 

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