Protestors Beat Driver To Near Death

The things cops can do that are mentioned and talked about in the article are somewhat questionable as they fit into U.S. policies. In most all cities, Mayors are in charge of the police. They have the power (control) to order the police as to what they are or aren’t permitted to do. As you saw in Seattle for instance, police were not permitted to unholster their weapon, yet the fascist protesters were able to open carry their weapons, including their AK-47’s. Blocking off streets weren’t permitted by the police, but was OK by the rioters.

When dealing with fascist protest groups, there is no getting together and talking it out and each side explaining their plans. The fascist groups show up, raise hell, burn, loot, destroy property and harm anyone that tries to stop them.

To the best of my knowledge, Governors in all states control the state police. In Pennsylvania, the state police can assume jurisdiction from city police if they are not permitted by their mayor to enforce the laws of their state, which to me is absolutely ridiculous. But, here again, the Governor has control over the state police, so they must abide whatever the Governor orders.

The article is pretty much right on as to how both the police and protesters should behave. Things would work out better than what they have this summer for both sides. It really comes down to people respecting the rights of others and living in a society that believes in obeying laws and respecting others’ property. Having peaceful protests is always welcomed. It’s when protests turn ugly and the cops lose control that things turn ugly and go awry.
 
The perp turned himself in today and claims that all he was doing was defending himself in that fight. Say what? The victim is on the ground pleading with the thugs, this guy tries to kick his head off his shoulders and he's defending himself? Sad part of this story is: he'll probably get a slap on the wrist.
 

And they want to ban guns from law abiding citizens. So open minded their brains are falling out.
Give up your right to defend yourself and you are at some thugs mercy. Good luck with that.
 
I have only ever seen one person in my area open carry. I was kind of curious, so I kind of followed him around the store, which was Kohl’s. I noticed that once people noticed his weapon on his hip, they avoided him and I even saw two ladies immediately leave the store.

I have often wondered if stores can refuse entry if a person open carries?
 
All this discussion about the benefits of an armed citizenry waving their loaded weapons around brought to mind the great Hunting Song by Tom Lehrer. Here's one verse:

People ask me how I do it
And I say, "There's nothin' to it
You just stand there lookin' cute
And when something moves, you shoot!"
And there's ten stuffed heads in my trophy room right now
Two game wardens, seven hunters, and a pure-bred Guernsey cow
 
old medic said:
Funny you think that... Many folks here are armed ... both concealed and open carrying.
And we dont have that BS going on.... gotta wonder why????
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Luck of the draw.

If and when someone gears-up for a rash of carnage, they're not going to give a hoot that old medic has 30 rounds on him and that he's packing.
 
oldman said:
I have only ever seen one person in my area open carry. I was kind of curious, so I kind of followed him around the store, which was Kohl’s. I noticed that once people noticed his weapon on his hip, they avoided him and I even saw two ladies immediately leave the store.

I have often wondered if stores can refuse entry if a person open carries?
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Here in Arkansas, you can open carry. It is entirely up to the business (as it should be), to decide if they want to post a notice at the door that no firearms are permitted inside.
 
squatting dog said:
Here in Arkansas, you can open carry. It is entirely up to the business (as it should be), to decide if they want to post a notice at the door that no firearms are permitted inside.
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I don't know if there's a state law or not, but a few years ago a guy wore his gun into Walmart, and the only reason it was a problem was he refused to show his permit (which he had in his wallet) to the security guard when the guard requested it.
 
Pepper said:
Absolutely YES. No shoes, no shirts, no guns, No service.
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Same here in Pennsylvania. A person may open carry, except in a state or federal building and prisons. Any place of business can refuse entry to anyone that open carry’s. If they do, the police are called. If the person continues to enter with their weapon on their hip, the store owner or manager can obtain a notice of willful trespass against the person, who will then be forever forbidden to enter the business.
 
It’s very unusual to see anyone here in PA open carry their weapon, especially into a grocery store. However, years back, 2 units were called to a large grocery store in a smaller PA town in the northern part of the state.

The first Trooper had the man raise his hands and asked for permission to remove his gun. The man agreed. The second Trooper told the man that to prevent this from happening again that he shouldn’t open carry. Everyone left happy. (No laws were broken.)
 
oldman said:
I have only ever seen one person in my area open carry. I was kind of curious, so I kind of followed him around the store, which was Kohl’s. I noticed that once people noticed his weapon on his hip, they avoided him and I even saw two ladies immediately leave the store.

I have often wondered if stores can refuse entry if a person open carries?
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As just being a store clerk, I wouldn't dare make demands on someone who is armed.
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911 said:
The last that I knew or read was that the Portland City Police were still ordered to stand down, except if they witnessed a serious crime. Most PCP are making an effort to avoid the area of the protesting.

Yesterday morning, I called the Oregon State Police and asked them why they didn’t assume jurisdiction over this case since the city police initially took a wait and see attitude. The female that I spoke to told me that in Oregon, the city police or the mayor must hand over jurisdiction to them, unlike here in PA where our state police can takeover a case if city police fail to act on it and it’s a case that may be charged as a felony. I apologized for my ignorance and we both agreed that it’s a case that needs to be prosecuted.
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In Ohio, the Highway Patrol has no Criminal law jurisdiction off of State property, unless by the Governor's orders, they do have the same power of S&S as other peace officer's in the state though, although they do have traffic law jurisdiction State wide.
 

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