After vowing to abolish police, Minneapolis city council demands, "Where are the police?" as violence plagues the city

[JimBob1952]

I do live fairly close to Minnesota and we do get the Minneapolis T.V. stations on cable here.

That's one state and one city that I never expected the extent of the violence.

However. The councilors always try to get as many votes to be reelected so they play the game of trying to cater to the voters. They didn't say eliminate the police. They said to seek an alternative solution to the present police situation. Defund.
Of course the police union knows what that means and so it is entirely possible that they are playing the game as well.

It's sad.

I remember a situation in Canada in Halifax when the police went on strike and they just stood and watched as the yokels ran up and down streets speeding.

Actually, the City Council did vote to dismantle the police department. From the Yahoo story:

In the aftermath of the police killing of George Floyd, the City Council voted to remove the requirement to maintain a police department form the city charter — the first step in a longer process to change the charter. The council’s proposal to dismantle the police department was set to be on the November ballot until the Minneapolis Charter Commission voted last month to take additional time in reviewing the plan.

The council proposed replacing the police department with a Department of Community Safety and Violence Prevention which would provide a “holistic, public health-oriented approach,” and a Division of Law Enforcement Services.

Lisa Bender of the City Council told CNN that those who worry about home invasions and suchlike "come from a place of privilege."

What I can't understand is why the "normal" people of Minneapolis -- if there are any -- haven't tarred and feathered these idiots.

 

[jerry old]

Stop, your telling me Minnesota is not the idyllic place Garrison Kellor presented in Prairie Home Companion.
filled with bachelor Norwegian farmers working in their fields, Peaceful, very peaceful.

 

[tbeltrans]

I do live fairly close to Minnesota and we do get the Minneapolis T.V. stations on cable here.

That's one state and one city that I never expected the extent of the violence.

However. The councilors always try to get as many votes to be reelected so they play the game of trying to cater to the voters. They didn't say eliminate the police. They said to seek an alternative solution to the present police situation. Defund.
Of course the police union knows what that means and so it is entirely possible that they are playing the game as well.

It's sad.

I remember a situation in Canada in Halifax when the police went on strike and they just stood and watched as the yokels ran up and down streets speeding.

Nine city council members spoke at a rally at Powdernhorn Park at the tail end of the riots, all saying specifically they supported disbanding the police. Yes, they wanted to replace the MPD with something else, but they didn't yet have a clear idea as to what that would be. As I recall, it was only the Minneapolis city council that used the word "disband". In any other city with similar feelings toward the police, the word "defund" was used. I watched the video on the local station KSTP's web site. Soon after, the Minneapolis mayor released a statement saying that if that many city council members supported disbanding the MPD, he didn't have any veto power over it. Fortunately, the city charter council has (so far) been able to stall that action.

I also never expected this kind of thing in Minneapolis. It has always been a fine city and a good place to live. Now, I am not so sure what the future holds.

I live in Columbia Heights, just 4 blocks outside the Minneapolis city limits.

Tony

 

[tbeltrans]

"Woke" means being aware of all the injustice in the world and being willing to do something about it. That's the theory. In practice it means, as you said, being hyper-sensitive to all slights, real and perceived.

Yes, I gathered that from my own reading too. So thanks for verifying my understanding. It is the "in practice" part that I can't understand.

Tony

 

[tbeltrans]

Stop, your telling me Minnesota is not the idyllic place Garrison Kellor presented in Prairie Home Companion.
filled with bachelor Norwegian farmers working in their fields, Peaceful, very peaceful.

Minneapolis is but one area in a much larger state. I sincerely hope the rest of the state is not making the same kinds of mistakes as Minneapolis is. However, I don't know that because I rarely am out of the Twin Cities metro area unless doing somewhere out of state. It would be interesting to know what the rest of the state thinks of this nonsense.

Tony

 

[jerry old]

This is quoted from post #19 regarding what they intended to replace the police dept. with:

"The council proposed replacing the police department with a Department of Community Safety and Violence Prevention which would provide a “holistic, public health-oriented approach,” and a Division of Law Enforcement Services "

It appears there is also a stupidity virus running rampant in Minneapolis

 

[tbeltrans]

This is quoted from post #19 regarding what they intended to replace the police dept. with:

"The council proposed replacing the police department with a Department of Community Safety and Violence Prevention which would provide a “holistic, public health-oriented approach,” and a Division of Law Enforcement Services "

It appears there is also a stupidity virus running rampant in Minneapolis

Yes, they did say that. However, when pressed for details, the answer seems to be that it will be worked out. To me, it is always a point of concern when an action is to be taken without some sort of exit strategy. We saw the US President do that a number of years ago in the Middle East, and look at how well that went. Now we are seeing it again on a smaller scale, but too close to home for my taste.

There are citizens in Minneapolis who are strongly against this whole nonsense and do support the MPD, but I don't see them making any headway against the tide of stupidity.

Tony

 

[Camper6]

Stop, your telling me Minnesota is not the idyllic place Garrison Kellor presented in Prairie Home Companion.
filled with bachelor Norwegian farmers working in their fields, Peaceful, very peaceful.

I remember one story he told. A farmer had a wife and her name was Lena. The farmer had a heart attack and she was visiting him in the hospital. He started the story.
"Lena remember when we first got married and lightning hit our cabin and it burned down?" She said yes.
"And then all the chickens in our farm got a disease and they all died" She said yes.

"And now I had a heart attack". She said yes.

"Lena, I think you're just bad luck".

I think the name of the place was "Lake Woebegon"