Canadian Parliament in lockdown due to a shooter

Whether he had a job or not is moot as far as I can tell. I suspect that this incident is part of a wider plan to ramp up terrorism in western countries involved in actions against ISIS.

Prison is one of the places where radicalisation takes place and contacts are forged. He could have been receiving funds from the islamists overseas.

I would guess that he was acting on orders and that more attacks will follow. Parliament House security in Canberra has already been beefed up. Vigilance is crucial now.
 
It goes to show that Islamic terrorism is not just a USA problem.. THEY are after any Western country.. It doesn't matter if they are affiliated with the USA or not or how much they are.. They are targets.. as much as we are. SO... let's stay out of the ISIS thing.. Seriously?
 

WhatInThe said:
Gunmen had criminal record.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-...as-convert-to-islam-with-criminal-record.html

Also apparently had money to travel.

This is not a gun control debate. This was terrorism. And how does a guy with a criminal record get profitable employment not only to survive but travel and buy weapons while taking time out to covert to Islam.
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Apparently he was on a high risk list due to his views..Stephen Harper made a brilliant speech in my opinion..I can't remember the exact words but it went along the lines..'We will not tolerate their savagery here in Canada''
 
I agree... he did respond well.. I understand Canadian officials have quite a few under surveilance... Including the guy who just a week ago ran his car into two military people killing one. This is the problem.. they are under "watch", but they still have been able to pull off acts of terrorism... How closely are they being "watched"? Not just in Canada, but here too.. We have people on our "list"... whooptie doo..... they are on a list.. are we watching them closely?
 
If we are really at war then I think it might be necessary to open internment camps for people who give indication of radicalisation. I hesitate to suggest this because it is a drastic move but it might just become necessary. I'm not arguing for lots of Gitmos to spring up and judicial oversight would be essential to make sure that internment is warranted.

During both world wars so called "enemy aliens" were routinely interned over here but I would leave most people alone and just round up the more problematic ones.
 
People with links to terrorism ARE being watched, but they allow them freedom to find out what they are planning.Unfortunately it doesn't always work, as attacks here have proved.
 
Twixie said:
Here in Britain, we had people like Abu Hamza..who would hold ''hate rallies'' in the street...

We wouldn't send him back to Egypt because that would infringe on his rights!!

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/19/abu-hamza-found-guilty-terrorism-charges

Sorry to have lumbered you with his sorry carcass!!

His family still live the life of luxury..in a 5 bedroom house, in a really nice part of London..all paid for by the British taxpayer..:soangry:
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What do mean paid for by tax payers? Aren't immigrants required to support themselves at some point? To tell you the truth I'm not even sure what the rules are here in Canada. I know when we sponsored our friend who was moving from the USA back in the 70's, my husband and I had to promise to support her in the event she was unemployed at any time in the following ten years. I wonder if it's changed since then?
 
Debby said:
What do mean paid for by tax payers? Aren't immigrants required to support themselves at some point? To tell you the truth I'm not even sure what the rules are here in Canada. I know when we sponsored our friend who was moving from the USA back in the 70's, my husband and I had to promise to support her in the event she was unemployed at any time in the following ten years. I wonder if it's changed since then?
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/47...million-London-home-and-claim-33-800-benefits

Doesn't that make you sick??
 
QuickSilver said:
Internment camps really didn't work out well for us when we rounded up Japanese citizens and stuck them in it during WWII..
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Maybe the difference would be (as suggested by DW) that the people who get 'locked up' would have to show actual indications of radicalization as opposed to just locking up people because of their heritage. Canada did the same thing with internment camps in WWII.

On the other hand, is sticking a bunch of hot-head, angry people in camps where they can learn from one another and whip up more frenzy amongst themselves the right way to go? I don't know what the answer is except maybe our future PM, Justin Trudeau was on the right track when he suggested that first and foremost it's imperative to figure out WHY they get like this and that might give clues on future efforts to change the situation.
 
Twixie said:
Apparently he was on a high risk list due to his views..Stephen Harper made a brilliant speech in my opinion..I can't remember the exact words but it went along the lines..'We will not tolerate their savagery here in Canada''
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He only said the things all leaders say at a time like this. Stephen Harper is anything but brilliant. An interesting fact that I never knew until recently was that Harper belonged to a group that actively spoke against the release of Nelson Mandela when he was in prison and yet here we are 2013 and he's there looking all 'sad and sorrowful' that a great man has died.http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2013/12/16/Harper-Mandela/



I came across a link that lays out the polarizing effect this current government has had on the country. A little convoluted but interesting none the less. http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com...t-so-is-the-total-devotion-of-his-supporters/

From the link: "....There is certainly plenty that is objectionable, even disturbing about this government: the unceasing partisanship, the peculiar nastiness, the crudeness, the expediency, the chronic secrecy and dishonesty. It picks fights needlessly, sees enemies everywhere, casts aside ancient parliamentary prerogatives as lightly as it does its own convictions, all in the single-minded, indeed obsessive pursuit of power...."


 
Twixie said:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/47...million-London-home-and-claim-33-800-benefits

Doesn't that make you sick??
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That is outrageous! I think the rules should be 'you're welcome to come to 'my country' but the minute you break a law and are convicted, you're sent back to wherever you came from and you never get to come back'. Reading through the link you provided, sounds like that family or at least most of them would be gone from the UK and I know we have lots of those kinds of things going on here. Like how does that happen anyway? Who writes these stupid laws that allow that?
 
tnthomas said:
Western societies have become too civilized, it's the weakness that 3rd world malcontents hate and will exploit...
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A society can never become too civilized. Being able to show compassion and kindness takes far more strength of character than knee jerk reactions that see mankind brutalizing one another ad nauseum. And there are numerous other reasons why we're seeing the things that are going on, occurring. It has little if anything to do with 'they hate us for our freedoms'.
 
:clap: A lovely gesture.
It happened at several sporting venues in the US on the day the Canadian soldier died and the Ottawa parliament building was breached.
 

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