Nearly 50 people contracted coronavirus after fellowship event at a small church in Maine

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Three people have been hospitalized with Covid-19 and 46 others have contracted the coronavirus after a fellowship event at a church in a small town in Maine, according to the state's top health official.

A total of 49 cases have been linked to an outbreak at the Brooks Pentecostal Church in Waldo County, the Maine Center for Disease Control & Prevention Director Dr. Nirav Shah said at a news conference Thursday.


https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/22/us/maine-church-covid-19-outbreak/index.html
 

Those numbers will continue to rise, and it's a remote rural location, very tiny town, without any previous cases.
 
Just how, exactly, does the national media get hold of stories like this? I mean, it's local, very local, and yet it makes its way to the national media. lIs it true? Is it made up? How would we know? Awfully convenient, if you ask me. Who's going to fact check? But it does fit the current taalking point of the surge in cases, so... must be true.
 

CarolfromTX said:
Just how, exactly, does the national media get hold of stories like this? I mean, it's local, very local, and yet it makes its way to the national media. lIs it true? Is it made up? How would we know? Awfully convenient, if you ask me. Who's going to fact check? But it does fit the current taalking point of the surge in cases, so... must be true.
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Very few will fact check (if it's at all possible.) Amazing how many people find it easier to be programmed robots, even when things don't add up.
And, no.....I'm not saying the virus does not exist.
 
Carol, city, county and state health departments track these things based on number of positive tests and hospitalizations. Physicians are required to report certain contagious diseases to those health depts. This type of reporting has gone on for many, many years with new diseases added as they become a problem. Contact tracing with contagious diseases has always gone on to some degree but is being increased due to the potential for fatalities and lasting physical impairment from Covid. Reliable state and local News media follow all of these potential sources.
 
Geezerette said:
Carol, city, county and state health departments track these things based on number of positive tests and hospitalizations. Physicians are required to report certain contagious diseases to those health depts. This type of reporting has gone on for many, many years with new diseases added as they become a problem. Reliable state and local News media follow all of the potential sources.
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However, every positive test is counted as a "Case." And it's not a case if someone is not sick.
And every death where someone tests positive is counted as a Covid-19 death regardless of what the person died of.
 
Sunny said:
Really, Win? Can you give us your source for that statement? It sounds very dubious.
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They were talking about this, I think, on CNN. I think it fell under the 100,000 extra deaths this year that shouldnā€™t have happened-like extra suicides etc.
 
Aneeda72 said:
They were talking about this, I think, on CNN. I think it fell under the 100,000 extra deaths this year that shouldnā€™t have happened-like extra suicides etc.
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Well.....who knows? Maybe the suicides were also caused by Covid-19. People worried about catching it, so......... šŸ˜‚
 
MFP said:
I don't know. I would think places like the grocery stores would see more traffic.
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Covid-19 is a "Blame" disease. If someone likes a certain gathering, it didn't "Spread the virus."
If someone doesn't like people who drink & go to bars or parties, it's a "Super Spreader."
And, if all else fails, blame it on "Those reckless young people who don't care about anyone."
Sitting in a restaurant eating spreads the virus.
Sitting outside in a restaurant eating doesn't, even with a party of 10 people, inches apart.
Large groups of people sitting next to each other in the stands at a baseball or football game doesn't spread the virus - the virus understands sports fans. :)
Baseball fans packed in cars & vans in the parking lot watching the game on big-screen TV's & wandering around the parking lot, cheering their teams won't spread the virus because the virus knows that fans paid a lot of money to watch the game. :)
Grocery stores don't spread the virus because the virus knows people need food, so it won't infect them because it's a considerate virus. :)
 
@win231, the virus is like a pair of dice; neither cares what you deserve, like or think you're entitled to. Sevens, snake eyes and elevens show up or they don't. They have no conscience.

Disciplined people keep their rent money in their pockets. Likewise, people who want to feel fairly certain they won't catch the virus follow well-publicized guidelines for wearing masks and socially distancing.

Gambling is legal as are many virus-risky behaviors. Doesn't make participating in either type of activity a wise decision. Both may come with deep regrets for how they eventually affect themselves and their families.

Just as I feel limited sympathy for those who gamble away their paychecks, I have limited sympathy for those who flout the recommendations that have been in place for many months and get sick.

My deeper sympathies go out to the family members who depend on those paychecks and those who rely on their family members to not engage in virus-risky behavior.
 
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win231 said:
Covid-19 is a "Blame" disease. If someone likes a certain gathering, it didn't "Spread the virus."
If someone doesn't like people who drink & go to bars or parties, it's a "Super Spreader."
And, if all else fails, blame it on "Those reckless young people who don't care about anyone."
Sitting in a restaurant eating spreads the virus.
Sitting outside in a restaurant eating doesn't, even with a party of 10 people, inches apart.
Large groups of people sitting next to each other in the stands at a baseball or football game doesn't spread the virus - the virus understands sports fans. :)
Baseball fans packed in cars & vans in the parking lot watching the game on big-screen TV's & wandering around the parking lot, cheering their teams won't spread the virus because the virus knows that fans paid a lot of money to watch the game. :)
Grocery stores don't spread the virus because the virus knows people need food, so it won't infect them because it's a considerate virus. :)
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Things keep changing as we learn more about how the virus works, itā€™s true. I am just so sad about the deaths and the continuing deaths and the worries about my children, my family. The familiar motherā€™s prayer comes to mind several times a day. ā€œTake me Lord, take meā€ and leave my family alone.

I suppose itā€™s why we were taught to pray on our knees. Begging for a favor. ā€œTake me Lord, take me.ā€
 
My SIL (wife's sister) isn't allowed to see her two grandsons due to the virus situation. Their parents won't let her. The one grandson does have some type of mental health problem, that he does take medications for. Wife's sister is sort of upset that her daughter won't let her come and see the two grandsons, but I can totally understand why.
 
ClassicRockr said:
My SIL (wife's sister) isn't allowed to see her two grandsons due to the virus situation. Their parents won't let her. The one grandson does have some type of mental health problem, that he does take medications for. Wife's sister is sort of upset that her daughter won't let her come and see the two grandsons, but I can totally understand why.
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I also understand the fear. I have four friends in their 80's that I visit every weekend. Around February when this whole thing started, I told them I'd completely understand if they prefer that I stay away. They insisted that they're not afraid. We haven't missed any visits. I'd say after 10 months, with no one sick, we're OK.
 
win231 said:
Covid-19 is a "Blame" disease. If someone likes a certain gathering, it didn't "Spread the virus."
If someone doesn't like people who drink & go to bars or parties, it's a "Super Spreader."
And, if all else fails, blame it on "Those reckless young people who don't care about anyone."
Sitting in a restaurant eating spreads the virus.
Sitting outside in a restaurant eating doesn't, even with a party of 10 people, inches apart.
Large groups of people sitting next to each other in the stands at a baseball or football game doesn't spread the virus - the virus understands sports fans. :)
Baseball fans packed in cars & vans in the parking lot watching the game on big-screen TV's & wandering around the parking lot, cheering their teams won't spread the virus because the virus knows that fans paid a lot of money to watch the game. :)
Grocery stores don't spread the virus because the virus knows people need food, so it won't infect them because it's a considerate virus. :)
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Win, if you wrote the above as satire, it's pretty funny. Good indictment of those who (mainly for political reasons) still refuse to accept the reality of this killer disease.

But when it comes down to it, there is nothing funny about this disease, or what it has done to the world. Maybe it's time to stop trying for "humor", and start responding like a serious adult.
 
Win, you quoted an article by a group called FEE, which I had never heard of before. It stands for Foundation for Economic Education.

I googled it, and learned that they are a right-wing think tank, allied with the Koch Brothers, who are in favor of low taxes and against the findings of science on climate change. Strictly pro-business. Yet, strangely, they are in favor of legalizing marijuana.

Based on their anti-science bias, their pronouncements about hospitals, funding, etc. are not surprising, and as I said, pretty dubious.

Here's another analysis of the way Covid-19 deaths are reported. It sounds a lot more complicated than the nickel-and-dime greediness you are describing.

https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/death-certificate-data-covid-19-as-the-underlying-cause-of-death/
 
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Total derail, but following up on the Koch brothers in @Sunny 's post above. I hate kingmakers/manipulators even more than I hate politicians. I wish the likes of the Koches and George Soros would just evaporate and we'd never remember they were here. If the money behind the scenes dried up, more honorable people would go into politics.
 
Back on track. Places of worship all over the world have been proved to be high risk for passing along the infection from the beginning. You'd think people would learn and it wouldn't still be happening.
 

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