Looks like national lockdown coming in England

Have you tackled all of your Christmas shopping yet, Tre?

What a mad-rush it will be when the lockdown is lifted.

My personal take on the issue, a lockdown so close to Christmas will result in the ballooning of cases once the lockdown is lifted.
 
Waiting to see what the new governor will do. I was told they were thinking of shutting everything down except the essentials. They do that and they're gonna kill what's left of the local businesses here I believe.
 
StarSong said:
Lockdown in an effort to slow down the rate of contagion, particularly where hospitals are in great danger of being overwhelmed.
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Lockdown in England, Wales, and France. We Americans prefer to tough it out and die. After all, most of the dead are the over 60 age group. If enough of us die, the economy will improve as we stop getting social security, Medicare, and Medicaid. Thus saving our treasury a bunch of money.

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Aneeda72 said:
Lockdown in England, Wales, and France. We Americans prefer to tough it out and die. After all, most of the dead are the over 60 age group. If enough of us die, the economy will improve as we stop getting social security, Medicare, and Medicaid. Thus saving our treasury a bunch of money.

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Second full Lockdown in England, Wales, Scotland, France & Germany.. and second semi Lockdown in Spain, possibly just days away from a full lockdown again
 
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Melbourne ( Victoria ) the state next to us was locked down for the ....Second time ....for 16 weeks
Residents were only allowed to go out ( 1 person per household ) for one hour a day for shopping .
No School..no hotels /.bars or cafes other than takeaway phone orders

They had a explosion of cases ....of up to 700 infections a day and a total of 900+ deaths during that period .

They have just opened up this weekend with next to no cases in the last Week so they have got on top of it buy being hard on Lockdown rules ( the residents are still required to wear masks in public )
South Aust where I’m has had 500. cases since March and about 5 deaths last time I heard anything
so we are operating as normal .,everything’s open ..apart from the Victorians being banned from entering S.A.
 
Ours ends next weekend and we have already been told we will not be following England and do not need another one.
One small island and three different approaches...just doesn’t work.
The virus doesn’t disappear at the Welsh and Scottish Borders!
And if they work do why we keep having them?Once should be enough.
 
Lockdown is what you have to implement if the population is not following less restrictive practices such and hand hygiene, social distancing and wearing masks. It is the end result of inadequate testing and contact tracing by the authorities. Success depends on all of the above.

Yesterday, for the first time since June 9, there has not been a single new positive COVID case in ALL OF AUSTRALIA. This does not mean that everyone should go silly and run unnecessary risks. It does mean that hard lockdown is no longer necessary.

Edit - I should have said "a single new positive COVID case from community transmission". We are still getting some positive results from people in quarantine after entering Australia from overseas.
 
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Aneeda72 said:
Lockdown in England, Wales, and France. We Americans prefer to tough it out and die. After all, most of the dead are the over 60 age group. If enough of us die, the economy will improve as we stop getting social security, Medicare, and Medicaid. Thus saving our treasury a bunch of money.

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Yes, this could be nature's way to control the population and cull the superfluous old folks who are no use to anyone.
 
Warrigal said:
Lockdown is what you have to implement if the population is not following less restrictive practices such and hand hygiene, social distancing and wearing masks. It is the end result of inadequate testing and contact tracing by the authorities. Success depends on all of the above.

Yesterday, for the first time since June 9, there has not been a single new positive COVID case in ALL OF AUSTRALIA. This does not mean that everyone should go silly and run unnecessary risks. It does mean that hard lockdown is no longer necessary.

Edit - I should have said "a single new positive COVID case from community transmission". We are still getting some positive results from people in quarantine after entering Australia from overseas.
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Yes that was the only way Victoria got on top of the virus by being very harsh , I actually feel for the Victorian premier Daniel Andrews @Warrigal
form my side of the border I think he did a great job with several issues he faced , however it looks like it’s taken its toll on him as he looks like he’s lost quite a bit of weight
 
Boris isn't trying to do much more than buy time. The lockdown is being imposed because the NHS is likely to be overwhelmed by the amount of sickness coming down the pipeline. Given the seriousness of the UK situation, Dec 1 might be way to early to lift the lockdown.
 
Warrigal said:
Lockdown is what you have to implement if the population is not following less restrictive practices such and hand hygiene, social distancing and wearing masks. It is the end result of inadequate testing and contact tracing by the authorities. Success depends on all of the above.
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Exactly. This puts me in mind of group punishments from younger years. Remember when your whole class would miss recess or suffer other punishments because a few wiseguys thought they were adorable when they went over the line?

Same thing here. If people would just follow the freaking guidelines the reopenings wouldn't have to go backwards. Just as when I was back in school, it's exhausting to be around people who won't behave themselves or think they're special cases.
 
Warrigal said:
Boris isn't trying to do much more than buy time. The lockdown is being imposed because the NHS is likely to be overwhelmed by the amount of sickness coming down the pipeline. Given the seriousness of the UK situation, Dec 1 might be way to early to lift the lockdown.
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Just curious. What actions would you take if you were the Prime Minister? I think making each person wear a mask before entering a public building would be a start. As for schools, it would depend on the state’s infection rate. I would suspend all sports, whether it be high school or professional. What good does it do to only wear a mask when on the sidelines in football?
 
StarSong said:
Exactly. This puts me in mind of group punishments from younger years. Remember when your whole class would miss recess or suffer other punishments because a few wiseguys thought they were adorable when they went over the line?

Same thing here. If people would just follow the freaking guidelines the reopenings wouldn't have to go backwards. Just as when I was back in school, it's exhausting to be around people who won't behave themselves or think they're special cases.
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Are you thinking of a specific issue or situation?
 
oldman said:
Are you thinking of a specific issue or situation?
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Not sure what you're asking. When I was a kid in school, if unidentified students damaged something, stole test papers, wrote inappropriate words on the blackboard, etc., the entire class was punished. It was meant to be social pressure - since the innocents got the same punishment as the guilty, they'd resent the guilty parties (and classmates usually had a very good idea of who was guilty).

Similar thing going on with refusals to follow safetly guidelines.

People who wear masks improperly or not at all, who won't socially distance, who plan and attend social gatherings, and who engage in other behavior deemed risky right now, are forcing the rest of us to be "punished" with new closures or delayed reopenings.
 
StarSong said:
Not sure what you're asking. When I was a kid in school, if unidentified students damaged something, stole test papers, wrote inappropriate words on the blackboard, etc., the entire class was punished. It was meant to be social pressure - since the innocents got the same punishment as the guilty, they'd resent the guilty parties (and classmates usually had a very good idea of who was guilty).

Similar thing going on with refusals to follow safetly guidelines.

People who wear masks improperly or not at all, who won't socially distance, who plan and attend social gatherings, and who engage in other behavior deemed risky right now, are forcing the rest of us to be "punished" with new closures or delayed reopenings.
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I see your point.

But sooner or later all the people who won’t wear masks will be gone because they will be dead. Then we will see how effective masking is. There are a couple places in the world that seem to have it controlled. They had strict lockdowns and then masked up. Time will tell.
 
My daughter is always impressed when she comes to our condo, and sees everyone masked .. not only in the building, but the neighbourhood.

She lives in a condo downtown, and many do not wear masks. My son-in-law is very much "in-your-face" with people not wearing masks. I just hope he doesn't choose to do this with the wrong person at the wrong time.
 

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