Vaccine how will they know?

I get it. My seasonal depression has started. My wife wishes that I would go away somewhere until the end of January. I always tell her I’m going to Africa. She tells me to send her a card.
Please take my husband with you, pretty please with a cherry on top!
 

? And, how will anybody know for certain that another person has been vaccinated? Just thinking out loud.

Or when. No one knows yet how long the vaccine induced immune response will last. Moderate infections are not producing immunity for some people beyond six months and actual infection produces a stronger immunity than vaccines.
 
No country is to blame for this pandemic. Virulent diseases spread like wildfire and especially so when there is insufficient, incompetent and corrupt leadership from the top.
This I totally disagree with. There was an obvious attempt to coverup the scope of this virus by the Chinese government which certainly had an effect on other countries handling of it.
 
What happens if there isn't a "safe" vaccine for years? How are we supposed to live? I was talking to some neighbors the other day and was surprised to hear that none of them will get this new vaccine. It makes you think. I hadn't planned to get it either, but it still surprised me to hear how many others don't want it.
 
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Latest news is that China wants global phone QR codes and other similar tech used to monitor every move of their citizens. I am sure they'll be happy to supply the tech. No backdoor spyware to worry about at all. [/endsarcasm]
 
The vaccines coming are only about 90% effective, so how safe can you feel if your are not 100% immune after taking them? There will be that doubt in your mind.
 
What happens if there isn't a "safe" vaccine for years? How are we supposed to live? I was talking to some neighbors the other day and was surprised to hear that none of them will get this new vaccine. It makes you think. I hadn't planned to get it either, but it still surprised me to hear how many others don't want it.

I'm totally bewildered by the thinking of anyone who is aware of the deadly pandemic we are stuck in the middle of, who hears of a vaccine around the corner which so far exceeds even our wildest expectations, and who for some stubborn reason will not get it.

Is this the same reasoning as those people who refuse to get any vaccinations whatever, assuming that since nearly everybody else has gotten the vaccine, they can benefit from herd immunity with no risk or discomfort to themselves?

Or is this just a form of suicidal behavior? What on earth is behind it?
 
I'm totally bewildered by the thinking of anyone who is aware of the deadly pandemic we are stuck in the middle of, who hears of a vaccine around the corner which so far exceeds even our wildest expectations, and who for some stubborn reason will not get it.

Is this the same reasoning as those people who refuse to get any vaccinations whatever, assuming that since nearly everybody else has gotten the vaccine, they can benefit from herd immunity with no risk or discomfort to themselves?

Or is this just a form of suicidal behavior? What on earth is behind it?

Some are worried about it because the vaccines are fast-tracked which cuts out a good chunk of time off safety studies. Moving this fast with it, all manufacturers can know for certain is that they're stimulating antibody production and that there are few immediate harmful side effects. Real world efficacy and a true picture of long-term safety won't be known until it's rolled out. I think some people want to hold off until they see that real world true picture.
 
Is that what they're planning to do? What if a tattoo is against someone's religion?
@chic If there's tracking, the phone QR codes that China is using are more likely than a tattoo or microchip; most people are not going to go for anything that's permanent or invasive to their bodies. In the movie Contagion, people had hospital type bracelets with barcodes.
 
This I totally disagree with. There was an obvious attempt to coverup the scope of this virus by the Chinese government which certainly had an effect on other countries handling of it.
Completely agree! China is responsible for this virus!

I wonder if the public will have any say as towhich vaccine they receive? I understand they have different side effects.
 
I'm totally bewildered by the thinking of anyone who is aware of the deadly pandemic we are stuck in the middle of, who hears of a vaccine around the corner which so far exceeds even our wildest expectations, and who for some stubborn reason will not get it.

Is this the same reasoning as those people who refuse to get any vaccinations whatever, assuming that since nearly everybody else has gotten the vaccine, they can benefit from herd immunity with no risk or discomfort to themselves?

Or is this just a form of suicidal behavior? What on earth is behind it?
No it's not suicidal behavior. Many believe not enough is known about a vaccine developed and marketed so quickly. We don't want a vaccine to make us worse off or sicker with something else especially if we've come this far with only our own immune systems protecting us..
 
But what happens to the uninsured, the homeless, people on reservations, and people with auto-immune disorders who would have to be hospitalized just to be vaccinated because they can become deathly ill from live antibodies vaccines? Who's going to pay for all this? Us? This is another reason why I think a large percentage of the population will not get vaccinated. Most, through no fault of their own.
 
I'm totally bewildered by the thinking of anyone who is aware of the deadly pandemic we are stuck in the middle of, who hears of a vaccine around the corner which so far exceeds even our wildest expectations, and who for some stubborn reason will not get it.

Is this the same reasoning as those people who refuse to get any vaccinations whatever, assuming that since nearly everybody else has gotten the vaccine, they can benefit from herd immunity with no risk or discomfort to themselves?

Or is this just a form of suicidal behavior? What on earth is behind it?
Not everyone blindly trusts everyone or everything - especially when we've been lied to in the past. But that doesn't prevent you from making your choices.
 

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