Channel surfing .....

rgp

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Surfed around last night for something to watch, finally found something lasted about an hour.

Surfed around again for a bit....said the hell with it, went to bed.

The thing I noticed during my surfing , most of what is on TV deals with murder ! Whether it is a documentary , or a scripted Hollywood "program" . That says allot about America , and IMO what it says isn't good. Are we that enamored with killing?

Maybe I'm just over thinking it ??
 

Apparently we are, rgp, as they wouldn’t have all the programs if it weren’t in demand. Maybe we always have been (remembering the Lone Ranger, Gun Smoke, type programs when I was little.). I remember the first time I actually saw someone murdered live on tv. Lee Harvey Oswald. Shot as we were watching. I was dumb struck...like “OMG, this is for REAL!!!!” Nowadays you don’t even blink when you see it happening. 😞
 
I blink @Kathleen’s Place. I saw the Oswald death live, too. It was not worse than what he did. That act was more shocking. Oswald's death was like "oh, okay."
 

A lot of TV programming is either violent, sensationalistic, or mind-numbingly stupid. It feeds a need or demand in people, or it wouldn't be there. Sadly, though, such programming tends to desensitize or nudge people towards what they are viewing, and people become more jaded in their perspectives...
 
I have movie subscriptions on various streaming platforms and you are right about media reflecting the state of the US or any other country. Our interests and likes mirror by the type of activities we choose to engage in; at the same time additional information is introduced, expanding the depth of our disconcert
 
I got burned out on cop shows years ago. One thing that did it was the wanton violence, and the showing of bodies being dissected by medical examiners, often with close-ups, and the bodies were often mangled, burned, etc.

I loved Hawaii Five-O when I was young, and was excited when they brought it back (10 years ago?). I didn't get 10 minutes into the first episode and that was all she wrote. The opening scene was just a bunch of people shooting at each other with machine guns. Boring.

I mostly just watch old sitcoms now. With the urging of a couple of buddies I have started watching Blue Bloods, which seems a step above the usual trash, but I don't have all the characters figured out yet.
 
Interesting that so many of us prefer 'oldies' which had less violence and sex. I think writers have got lazy and sacrificed a good story for lurid details.
Something else which is new is being able to monitor the number of viewers tuning in. One of the lunch-time chat shows here recorded no viewers at all at one point! It seems people turned on to have a look, were not impressed and found something more interesting to watch.

Yesterday, I was flicking through the channels and came across a shopping channel promoting faux fur items. It must have caught the eye of several other channel surfers because the presenter said 'ooh we've just got a load of new viewers'. However, they took advantage of the extra customers to continue promoting the item they were on and delayed the faux fur. I got tired of waiting and switched off. I wonder how many other people did the same?
 
Consider, though, how many murder mysteries have been written and loved by the reading public for the past few hundred years. Sherlock Holmes, the various pulp detective series over the years, and many, many more. Even the Bible has its share of violence, and other oddities of human nature. In these, we used our imaginations which could be just as violent for at least some readers, I am sure.

While I agree that commercial TV, at least in the US (though there are a number of rather gruesome detective shows from England shown on public television in the US too) is often overly violent, it does seem to me that people have been entertained by murder stories for a very long time. Regarding the shows we see here in the US from Great Britain overall, I think the quality of the content is much higher than the commercial stuff we see here in the US. I do remember watching some stuff on TV when I was over there, that was just as dumb as what we often have, so I assume they "cherry pick" the good stuff to show here on our public TV stations.

For those unfamiliar, public TV and radio are consumer-supported stations with much educational content and generally higher quality overall programming than one sees on commercial TV. Without delving too far into politics, I will say these stations often do have a definite liberal bias in their reporting.

https://www.pbs.org/

https://www.npr.org/

Comparing books to TV shows is a bit, in my mind, somewhat similar to what I described about the previous generation in another post in another thread - they could talk "dirty" all they wanted (and they "wanted" quite a bit), as long as they talked around it without saying the actual words. That made it OK. So here, as long as it is written in a book, it is fine, but show it on TV and it is too violent, or just too much interest in killing.

The thread raises the age-old question - is the media driving the violence or is the media reflecting the violence in our culture?

To me, it is a closed-loop feedback system where they drive each other endlessly in an upward spiral. The programming must have more and more to satisfy as we become desensitized to what has already been watched the previous season. I mentioned that books have long been written about murder, but the rise in violence in our culture to the level of today is a more recent situation. So one could argue that having murder mysteries and detective stories that featured killing, didn't cause widespread violence in our culture. TV, on the other hand, shoves it right into our faces and there is, in my opinion, a desensitizing effect toward violence that one doesn't get from reading a book.

Tony
 
I'm a fan of cop shows, murder mysteries, and true crime stories.

I'm still watching the old ones like Hill Street Blues, Hunter, Perry Mason, Peter Gunn, City Confidential, etc...

Rabbit ears rule! :giggle:
Hill Street Blues focuses on the human drama, rather than the crime itself. It was a very good show and besides, the them song was really cool. :)

Perry Mason downplayed the murder itself in favor of the legal manipulations around it.

Today's shows feature the murder(s) and non-stop action that is required to keep people entertained. These earlier shows (at least the two I have seen), seemed to require thinking on the part of the viewer.

I am not familiar with the other series you mentioned.

My wife and I don't watch commercial TV, but I have seen bits and pieces over the years at other people's homes. What I don't understand (general comment not directed toward the quoted post...) is why people continue to watch TV and then complain about the shows and the commercials. If these are so bothersome, why not do something else with your time instead?

Tony
 
I think too many shows require half attention as for many that is all they give........
my husband was watching some odd show................... I was in and out of room doing other things but could keep up with what is happening.......... they knew the audience has a small attention span i guess.

i used to watch some of those shows that would be true crime or crime scripted...... i actually think these shows have made people think that every crime should be wrapped up in an instant.... and feel that DNA etc will make it obvious ............that is not real life.

i truly feel in some cases these shows have shown criminals how to get away or create reasonable doubt..... real life forensics take a long time and they often do not run everything as the costs would be enormous..........

In some cases i think juries may be affected as well expecting a super smoking gun like they saw on some crime show..........

the medical type shows as well have created an unrealistic vision that some brilliant doctor with nothing more then a glance makes a completely off the beaten path obscure diagnosis............
 
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Some of the shows are not too bad. Lonestar 911 is one, also Magnum and Mcgyver. The only thing I am getting sick of on Mcgyver is the constant girl Devi fighting. I wish they would have gotten rid of her and brought back Jack
 
There’re so many scenes in shows when I have to cover my eyes.

The heroes are all great shots. They figure out the solution based on little and do it instantly. And they’re all incredibly attractive. The most amazing feat is the women running at high speed in high heels. And their hair is still perfect.

I record the shows I like. It’s a mix of drama and comedies and talk shows. Nearly forgot HGTV.

I totally can not understand Bachelor, etc.
 
I prefer to laugh. It makes me feel better and sleep soundly. I used to love Columbo the seventies cop show. But I agree, all the blood, guts and sadism is unsettling beyond bearing. Just watch something else.
 
Charlie's Angels still look good. They are all old ladies now, but they look great on those old shows.

We record most of what we watch and then watch it at our convenience. Many are old shows from when we were younger.
 
I got burned out on cop shows years ago. One thing that did it was the wanton violence, and the showing of bodies being dissected by medical examiners, often with close-ups, and the bodies were often mangled, burned, etc.

I loved Hawaii Five-O when I was young, and was excited when they brought it back (10 years ago?). I didn't get 10 minutes into the first episode and that was all she wrote. The opening scene was just a bunch of people shooting at each other with machine guns. Boring.

I mostly just watch old sitcoms now. With the urging of a couple of buddies I have started watching Blue Bloods, which seems a step above the usual trash, but I don't have all the characters figured out yet.
Hey Old Dummy! I just started the eleventh season of the original "Hawaii Five-O." Yap! That's the one with Steve McGarrett, Dano, etc. There is one more year left after this one. I have seen all the other 10 years. I wouldn't watch that new series of "Hawaii Five-0" if you paid me. Can't stand remakes of original shows. You can't redo great shows like Hawaii Five-0, The Rifleman, Gunsmoke or Bonanza. I don't like the cheap remakes. They always are more violent & there is no shortage of 4 letter words. Give me the original or give me a good book to read.
 
I'm a fan of cop shows, murder mysteries, and true crime stories.

I'm still watching the old ones like Hill Street Blues, Hunter, Perry Mason, Peter Gunn, City Confidential, etc...

Rabbit ears rule! :giggle:

I have no cable or dish (never did) so most of my TV watching is OTA, although I have a roof antenna. I stream some also (free stuff only, which is endless).

Most old cop shows don't interest me like they did when they ran originally. Don't know why really, they're just dumb. A good example is "Walker, Texas Ranger." I liked it originally, but now it's just "cheesy" and unwatchable for me. Hard to explain. I do watch Columbo fairly regularly though.
 
I don't like TV crime dramas, I like true crime stories. What interests me about them is the amazing evolution of investigative techniques - forensic science and, more recently, investigative genealogy. After all the work that goes into it, I love seeing the baddies get caught.
 
Hey Old Dummy! I just started the eleventh season of the original "Hawaii Five-O." Yap! That's the one with Steve McGarrett, Dano, etc. There is one more year left after this one. I have seen all the other 10 years. I wouldn't watch that new series of "Hawaii Five-0" if you paid me. Can't stand remakes of original shows. You can't redo great shows like Hawaii Five-0, The Rifleman, Gunsmoke or Bonanza. I don't like the cheap remakes. They always are more violent & there is no shortage of 4 letter words. Give me the original or give me a good book to read.

Yes! I loved the original "5-0." A business associate of mine is "Dan" and I've been calling him "Dano" for years, although I don't say "Book 'em, Dano!" LOL (he's old enough to know the old show).

Yes, remakes are usually flops. "Dukes of Hazzard" is a good example. The re-do was quite a few years ago now, but I remember not being impressed with it.
 
I've watched my share of murder stories, but in my own defense I need to point out that it is the telling of the story that is the main attraction for me. Joe Kenda narrates the reenactment of his own homicide cases- that's the draw for me.
 
Hill Street Blues focuses on the human drama, rather than the crime itself. It was a very good show and besides, the them song was really cool. :)

Perry Mason downplayed the murder itself in favor of the legal manipulations around it.

Today's shows feature the murder(s) and non-stop action that is required to keep people entertained. These earlier shows (at least the two I have seen), seemed to require thinking on the part of the viewer.

I am not familiar with the other series you mentioned.

My wife and I don't watch commercial TV, but I have seen bits and pieces over the years at other people's homes. What I don't understand (general comment not directed toward the quoted post...) is why people continue to watch TV and then complain about the shows and the commercials. If these are so bothersome, why not do something else with your time instead?

Tony
If your wife and you don't watch commercial TV does that mean you both grew up sorting laundry?
 
I've watched my share of murder stories, but in my own defense I need to point out that it is the telling of the story that is the main attraction for me. Joe Kenda narrates the reenactment of his own homicide cases- that's the draw for me.
I hope he had more energy in his glory years than he shows now. Raymond Burr as Ironside had more energy than he has.
 
I hope he had more energy in his glory years than he shows now. Raymond Burr as Ironside had more energy than he has.


Indeed he is a tad to "laid-back" for me.....LOL.
 


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