Depression Problems

[Keesha]

That was a very interesting video. I’ve never heard of ketamine before nor has it ever been suggested by my health practitioners. At the moment I’m on a combination of medication prescribed by my nurse practitioner that works well. It causes the typical weight gain and drowsiness but it sure beats the alternative.
I was sooo grateful when she found the last medication since it worked so well for me and was something I’d never tried before. I’d prefer not to be on any meds but I will take them if I get bad enough.
Thanks Nathan

 

[Dana]

The problem is, there are those, on the forum, who think they are counselors or those, perhaps, that may be counselors, but not good counselors or not the type of counselor needed so there would be a liability question for the owners of the site. Counselors are not one size fits all.

And there is the privacy question. IMO, a counselor would be a bad ideal.

I have not been on this forum long enough to know what people's professions are so perhaps you may like to explain a bit further. As far as I am concerned, a person cannot just say they are a counselor. A counselor is a trained professional and a psychologist has undergone many years of training. Both have to be accredited and licensed to practice.

How in heaven's name would you know how good someone is at their profession if you have never been under their care personally?

 

[Shalimar]

Is the reason why complex PTSD is so resistant to treatment due to the fact that it usually starts in early childhood, under 5 when the brain and personality are developing and due to the violent repetitious nature of assault that leads to the feeling of no escape? From everything I’ve read about it so far, it apparently takes 10 to 15 years of intense treatment. I’m guessing Cumulative PTSD is the same as Complex PTSD which seems to include just about every mental disorder known, or so it seems.

That is one viewpoint shared by many professionals. We still don’t really understand all the ramifications of this insidious illness. Some respond well to years of intense therapy, others not so much. I have yet to meet anyone completely cured of CPTSD. one can spend years in remission, only to be triggered.

 

[Dana]

For SilentSoul… with regard to your comment about mental health forums.

As far as I can see, SeniorForum is simply a discussion forum where a variety of topics are discussed including mental health. Mental health forums are discussion forums about mental health only. I think the confusion arises when “mental health” forums and “online counselling” are merged into one. They are not the same thing.

Both online counselling and mental health forums can help in different ways depending on the severity of your problem. Online counselling involves certified, and experienced counsellors. It is the same therapy that takes place in a clinician’s office, only it’s done via some medium of technology. This is a paid service.

Mental health discussion forums, on the other hand, don’t usually call on the knowledge and expertise of a therapist. Instead, these sites enable users to become involved in important discussions about mental health for free. On a mental health forum, you can ask questions about an issue you’re experiencing or give advice to someone else. The idea is mainly to share experiences in an informal way. It is my belief that many of these sites would have a mental health professional on board to jump in if perhaps a line is crossed, not to give personal advice.

 

[Keesha]

That is one viewpoint shared by many professionals. We still don’t really understand all the ramifications of this insidious illness. Some respond well to years of intense therapy, others not so much. I have yet to meet anyone completely cured of CPTSD. one can spend years in remission, only to be triggered.

Thank you. That’s the impression I’ve gotten from everything I’ve read so far. Also from what I’ve only learned from the last year , it’s a newly acknowledged disorder on the DSM list and isn’t even recognized in many parts of the world, some of which might have the highest incidences of it due to war, crime rate and cultural differences; never mind lack of modern technology, education and medical services. My heart goes out to all these folks.

Even those in the modern world might struggle with finances getting the kind of help they’d need to treat a condition like this. According to ‘beauty after bruises,’ it can take 10 to 15 years of intense specific therapy which is why they offer grants to those who can’t afford it. I hadn’t even considered the remission part .

https://www.beautyafterbruises.org/blog

 

[Aneeda72]

I have not been on this forum long enough to know what people's professions are so perhaps you may like to explain a bit further. As far as I am concerned, a person cannot just say they are a counselor. A counselor is a trained professional and a psychologist has undergone many years of training. Both have to be accredited and licensed to practice.

How in heaven's name would you know how good someone is at their profession if you have never been under their care personally?

Exactly!

 

[SilentSoul]

For SilentSoul… with regard to your comment about mental health forums.

As far as I can see, SeniorForum is simply a discussion forum where a variety of topics are discussed including mental health. Mental health forums are discussion forums about mental health only. I think the confusion arises when “mental health” forums and “online counselling” are merged into one. They are not the same thing.

Both online counselling and mental health forums can help in different ways depending on the severity of your problem. Online counselling involves certified, and experienced counsellors. It is the same therapy that takes place in a clinician’s office, only it’s done via some medium of technology. This is a paid service.

Mental health discussion forums, on the other hand, don’t usually call on the knowledge and expertise of a therapist. Instead, these sites enable users to become involved in important discussions about mental health for free. On a mental health forum, you can ask questions about an issue you’re experiencing or give advice to someone else. The idea is mainly to share experiences in an informal way. It is my belief that many of these sites would have a mental health professional on board to jump in if perhaps a line is crossed, not to give personal advice.

Yes I am aware.

 

[Keesha]

I have not been on this forum long enough to know what people's professions are so perhaps you may like to explain a bit further. As far as I am concerned, a person cannot just say they are a counselor. A counselor is a trained professional and a psychologist has undergone many years of training. Both have to be accredited and licensed to practice.

How in heaven's name would you know how good someone is at their profession if you have never been under their care personally?

This person has a doctorate degree in psychology and a license to practice. I have been on the forum long enough to know.

 

[Irwin]

Dr. Martin Seligman, partially through experiments with dogs way back in the '60s -- which would be illegal today, and through other experiments, concluded that depression is caused by learned helplessness. I'm not sure that all experts on depression would agree with him, but for those in SF who suffer from depression, how much does feeling helpless factor into it? Do you feel helpless in some crucial realm of your life? Just curious.

 

[Ruthanne]

I am asking that this thread be closed for various reasons. Anyone can start a new thread. This is a very old one started for the purpose of a group we had here that no longer exists.

 

[SilentSoul]

Dr. Martin Seligman, partially through experiments with dogs way back in the '60s -- which would be illegal today, and through other experiments, concluded that depression is caused by learned helplessness. I'm not sure that all experts on depression would agree with him, but for those in SF who suffer from depression, how much does feeling helpless factor into it? Do you feel helpless in some crucial realm of your life? Just curious.

Not helpless. Hopeless.

 

[Aneeda72]

Dr. Martin Seligman, partially through experiments with dogs way back in the '60s -- which would be illegal today, and through other experiments, concluded that depression is caused by learned helplessness. I'm not sure that all experts on depression would agree with him, but for those in SF who suffer from depression, how much does feeling helpless factor into it? Do you feel helpless in some crucial realm of your life? Just curious.

No except with my ability to get a job and a paycheck. My disabilities prevent me from doing this. After telling my doctors over the last couple of years of my wish to work, they said no, although, I am still hopeful of being able to do so.

 

[Aneeda72]

I am asking that this thread be closed for various reasons. Anyone can start a new thread. This is a very old one started for the purpose of a group we had here that no longer exists.

Old threads are frequently restarted, why close this one?

 

[SeaBreeze]

This thread is locked. The original poster was referring to a group that was started in 2017. The groupls no longer exist here, and that why the link is not valid.

I clicked on the first one on page 1, and there was another one I also clicked on. If this group still exists, would you please post the link to it? Thank you