Do You Believe in an Eternal Hell
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Verisure
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Go on, say it. We're all friends here.So many things I could say but won’t.
First divorce?
Divorce is usually the moment you discover true freedom and when you realize that life holds unlimited choices to make. I'm not criticizing relationships or marriage because the experience you take with you after divorce makes you wiser in the next relationship .... which is part of the unlimited choices I was talking about.
No. I’ll keep my opinion to myself.Go on, say it. We're all friends here.
Divorce is usually the moment you discover true freedom and when you realize that life holds unlimited choices to make. I'm not criticizing relationships or marriage because the experience you take with you after divorce makes you wiser in the next relationship .... which is part of the unlimited choices I was talking about.
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Homeschoolie
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Keesha, What you said...Me too. And I already posted earlier that I had a brain by 7.I’ve discovered total freedom and happiness without getting divorced . Then again, I realized I had a brain well before 40. Just sayin.’.. lol
Nobody had to knock me down with a divorce to learn and understand.
Getting out of High School was all it took to realize that life holds unlimited choices. Because as soon as we graduate we do have unlimited choices ahead of us.
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Absolutely NOT. However, some carry Hell with them here on Earth.
Wasnt sure if I was being needlessly cruel with my comments but I’m glad someone else feels the same. Most of us have free choice to do whatever we want. I’m glad I haven’t had to go through any divorces and some of the heartaches that these families go through due to it.
Aneeda72
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Unfortunately I started to lose brain cells before I discovered I had a brain
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, now I am a lost cause
Aneeda72
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Doesn’t necessarily make you wiser, some of us are slow learners.Go on, say it. We're all friends here.
Divorce is usually the moment you discover true freedom and when you realize that life holds unlimited choices to make. I'm not criticizing relationships or marriage because the experience you take with you after divorce makes you wiser in the next relationship .... which is part of the unlimited choices I was talking about.
Verisure
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Even a half-step forward is an improvement. You have to learn how to walk before you can run.
Serenity4321
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LOL what a combination..I grew up in Northern Louisiana..small college town of Ruston..
Lara
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"Is The Divine Comedy/Dante’s Inferno a biblically accurate description of Eternal Hell?"
The philosophy of the poem is a mixture of the Bible, Roman Catholicism, mythology, and medieval tradition. Where Dante draws on his knowledge of the Bible, the poem is truthful and insightful. It's no surprise that I agree with "where he draws on the other sources, the poem departs from truth".
But his work is intended to be literary, not theological. It does reflect a deep yearning to understand the mysteries of life and death.
In Eternal Hell, Dante sees man as continually working and striving for reward and relief from punishment. But the Bible tells us that heaven is a place of rest from striving, not a continuation of it...."they will rest from their labor, for their deeds will follow them.’”
Believers who live and die in Christ are saved by faith alone...The Divine Comedy may be of interest to Christians as a literary work, but the Bible alone is the Christians infallible guide for faith and life and is the only source of eternal truth.
The philosophy of the poem is a mixture of the Bible, Roman Catholicism, mythology, and medieval tradition. Where Dante draws on his knowledge of the Bible, the poem is truthful and insightful. It's no surprise that I agree with "where he draws on the other sources, the poem departs from truth".
But his work is intended to be literary, not theological. It does reflect a deep yearning to understand the mysteries of life and death.
In Eternal Hell, Dante sees man as continually working and striving for reward and relief from punishment. But the Bible tells us that heaven is a place of rest from striving, not a continuation of it...."they will rest from their labor, for their deeds will follow them.’”
Believers who live and die in Christ are saved by faith alone...The Divine Comedy may be of interest to Christians as a literary work, but the Bible alone is the Christians infallible guide for faith and life and is the only source of eternal truth.
Lara, I am glad for you that you receive your "faith" from books. I have to say, I believe faith comes from within even before reading a book.
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Not "books". Just one Book
....unless you mean the books of the Bible. I'm mostly about the New Testament because everything changed when Jesus was born. But we learn from history so the Old Testament is also relevant and has many of the prophesies that were fulfilled that's really cool.I wonder what happened to peoples souls before Jesus was born. If believing in Jesus is the ‘only’ thing that saves humanity, did all those who were born before Jesus automatically go to hell?
I’m not really expecting an answer. I’m just wondering.
There was a time before religion became popular. I wonder how they managed to stay out of eternal hell once they died. Then again, they wouldn’t know about eternal hell because they wouldn’t have been taught about it.
I’m not really expecting an answer. I’m just wondering.
There was a time before religion became popular. I wonder how they managed to stay out of eternal hell once they died. Then again, they wouldn’t know about eternal hell because they wouldn’t have been taught about it.
Well, the Old Testament contains more "truth"than the New Testament. What changed? Surely it is a continuation!Not "books". Just one Book
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Whoa...that's a great question Keesha! I never thought of that before
I'll get back to you...just in case you want my opinion
Oh, and Dana...I have faith that it's all truth. Except where there are parables used for the purpose of making a point
I'll get back to you...just in case you want my opinion
Oh, and Dana...I have faith that it's all truth. Except where there are parables used for the purpose of making a point
Totally agree. Faith, hope, discovering guidance comes from within. The universe speaks to us in all kinds of ways. Silence is golden. Learning about your own inner spirit can also be found in plenty of books. The Tae de Ching was written long before the Bible and has the same type of teachings minus the violence. Buddhism teaches about seeking inner guidance. They don’t believe or disbelieve there’s a God. They acknowledge all other religions that benefits mankind as useful and never put down any of them. There are plenty of books ( really good ones ) written about discovering faith and inner peace besides the Bible and that’s not mere opinion, it’s actual fact. Yoga , mediation, walking in nature are some other ways of being in touch with the God within.
We aren’t all made from cookie cutters.
Not "books". Just one Book
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You don't need an answer...you have already nailed it in your post #344
mellowyellow
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Well, I said I would tell you about the Catholic baptism ceremony of a 10 year old child and an adult I attended on Saturday night.
As a confirmed Presbyterian, it was first time in a Catholic church and it was heart warming. The church was packed (probably because of Easter) and the people were so warm and welcoming, it was a lovely experience. It wasn't a complete dunking, just a matter of leaning over a very smallish bowl and water poured over the front of the head. The participants were each given a large candle (about 18 inches tall) with their name and date engraved on it, and a small ornament of a child praying. There was no mention of Mary during the 2 hour ceremony. The head priest (there were 5 priests taking part) is the most laidback person once he takes his robes off - as we would say, he's a beaut bloke
As a confirmed Presbyterian, it was first time in a Catholic church and it was heart warming. The church was packed (probably because of Easter) and the people were so warm and welcoming, it was a lovely experience. It wasn't a complete dunking, just a matter of leaning over a very smallish bowl and water poured over the front of the head. The participants were each given a large candle (about 18 inches tall) with their name and date engraved on it, and a small ornament of a child praying. There was no mention of Mary during the 2 hour ceremony. The head priest (there were 5 priests taking part) is the most laidback person once he takes his robes off - as we would say, he's a beaut bloke
Whoa...that's a great question Keesha! I never thought of that before
I'll get back to you...just in case you want my opinion
Oh, and Dana...I have faith that it's all truth. Except where there are parables used for the purpose of making a point
Good you are happy...I am also happy when I read my grandchildren stories written by Enid Blyton.
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Call me simplistic, perhaps, but I will leave theology to the theologians. They may ponder how many angels fit on the head of a pin, or the relative religious/political/ socio economic origins and validity of the concept of hellfire. I want a simple, meaningful way to live my life, and for me, kindness works. This is my small candle shining in the dark, an
offering of hope to those in pain. This is a spirituality I can comprehend. Any belief system which uses fear as a motivator to avoid endless torment for not following their religious rules is not for me.
offering of hope to those in pain. This is a spirituality I can comprehend. Any belief system which uses fear as a motivator to avoid endless torment for not following their religious rules is not for me.
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We live in a physical dimension. The world of spirit is on a different dimension.
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