Ghost Guns

[Murrmurr]

There are people turning out 3D Printed Guns.

Not only do they evade gun-control, they evade forensic ballistics.

Example: I'm going to fashion a nylon pistol on my 3D Printer, do someone in, then melt down or burn my gun when I'm done.

Check out the price of a 3D printer. Anyone intent on doing someone in would find it much cheaper to get a gun off the street through some gang member, or steal one. No need for any melting down or anything, just toss the thing into the nearest body of water, or even a dumpster.

 

[Murrmurr]

A step-grandnephew is in prison for making & selling ghost guns.

Yeah, they're illegal here.

 

[digifoss]

A step-grandnephew is in prison for making & selling ghost guns.

If that's the case, ghost guns must already be illegal where you are.

 

[Murrmurr]

If that's the case, ghost guns must already be illegal where you are.

Under Federal Law, you can't own a gun that can't be registered and therefore traced.

 

[digifoss]

So it's already illegal everywhere. They need to enforce the laws they already have instead of making more, IMO

 

[horseless carriage]

Like your Avatar. Reminds me of ventriloquist, Jeff Dunham's puppet:
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Walter has another doppelganger:

 

[win231]

Ever hear of a zip gun? It's an improvised firearm made of available materials. As kids, we wanted to make one from the antenna of a junk vehicle sitting in a junk yard, but the owner caught us. The antenna would have been the barrel for a .22 shell. I never ran so fast. We meant no harm if we had made one...just a couple kids fooling around.

You should be grateful the owner caught you. An aluminum car antenna is not strong enough to contain pressure (even from a 22) & you could be out several fingers. Or eyes. PSI of a 22 lr is 8,000 to 14,000 psi.

 

[Aunt Marg]

You've heard "guns don't kill, people do". Well, if you follow that logic atomic bombs don't kill, people do, so everybody aught to be able to have their own nuke?

Bulls-eye!

This TRUMPS anything and everything I have ever read!

 

[Oldguy]

Under Federal Law, you can't own a gun that can't be registered and therefore traced.

Not true.

Federal law does not require individuals who make firearms for personal use to mark them with a serial number or any other identifier. Hence, most firearms made by individuals for personal use are best described as "self-made, un-serialized firearms."

https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/What-is-a-ghost-gun-and-are-they-legal-14437096.php

 

[ohioboy]

Not true.

Federal law does not require individuals who make firearms for personal use to mark them with a serial number or any other identifier. Hence, most firearms made by individuals for personal use are best described as "self-made, un-serialized firearms."

https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/What-is-a-ghost-gun-and-are-they-legal-14437096.php

A better source would be ATF or United States Code statutes.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/does-individual-need-license-make-firearm-personal-use

 

[win231]

As far as "Making your own firearm," I wouldn't consider it.
When you buy a firearm, the factory tests it with special High-Pressure Loads & fires it by remote control in a bullet/shrapnel-proof area in case it explodes. This ensures an extra margin of safety. And the gun has to contain the pressure thousands of times without weakening.
A gun is a small bomb that you set off a few inches from your face, while you hold it in your hand. I wouldn't want to be the first "Test Subject" for a gun I made.

 

[Aunt Marg]

As far as "Making your own firearm," I wouldn't consider it.
When you buy a firearm, the factory tests it with special High-Pressure Loads & fires it by remote control in a bullet/shrapnel-proof area in case it explodes. This ensures an extra margin of safety. And the gun has to contain the pressure thousands of times without weakening.
A gun is a small bomb that you set off a few inches from your face, while you hold it in your hand. I wouldn't want to be the first "Test Subject" for a gun I made.

Who's to say gunsmiths turning out custom handmade guns aren't test firing their works and running them through their paces in accordance with factory testing procedures?

 

[win231]

Who's to say gunsmiths turning out custom handmade guns aren't test firing their works and running them through their paces in accordance with factory testing procedures?

Gunsmiths rarely make a gun from scratch. They do Custom work & modifications on existing guns.
Making a quality gun would require a huge investment in machinery.

 

[Aunt Marg]

Gunsmiths rarely make a gun from scratch. They do Custom work & modifications on existing guns.
Making a quality gun would require a huge investment in machinery.

Maybe so, but you know as well as I do that custom and private gunsmiths, as well as weekend warriors, are out there doing their own thing, including turning out guns from scratch, and my bet is they put their guns through rigorous testing measures before releasing them out the doors of their workshops.

 

[Aunt Marg]

As for my stance on "ghost guns", my hope is for every stride and advance the governing party of the USofA makes to quash such, there are another one-million more Cody Wilson's, out there ensuring that the gun culture in the USofA remains healthy, strong, alive and well, and with that said, three cheers for the 2nd amendment.

I hear it all the time, how important it is to protect and fight for the 2nd amendment, well ghost guns IMO are a product of the people's making, the people who live, support, live, eat, and sleep the 2nd amendment.

I honestly don't know what the problem is.