India's health system is collapsing

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India's health system is collapsing under the fastest spreading coronavirus surge since the pandemic started, with gravediggers burning piles of bodies and crematorium furnaces melting from round-the-clock use.

Another 259,170 cases were recorded on Tuesday, the world's highest daily rate, and 1,761 deaths, the country's highest ever daily toll, after a new variant of Covid emerged which scientists fear could partly evade vaccines.

At the start of the year, India thought it had beaten the pandemic and had kicked off a mass vaccination drive.

Face masks and social distancing were cast aside and huge crowds flocked to religious festivals, election rallies and cricket matches.

But in its hospitals, short of oxygen, ventilators and beds, doctors started warning that they were becoming overwhelmed, including by a new phenomenon - younger patients.

Medics in Delhi say that two thirds of their new patients are under-45, while in Mumbai, doctors say that they are seeing children aged 12 to 15, where there were virtually no child admissions in the first wave.

One Gujarat hospital has set up the state's first paediatric coronavirus ward.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-collapsing-Covid-19-spreads-faster-ever.html

I'm very concerned about this news if true, I just could not take another lockdown because immigrants have been allowed in who have been in contact with the disease..again!!
 

Why did they, our Government, give a warning that travellers
from India will have to quarantine, starting on Friday!

But politicians are always aware of votes they will need in the
future.

India is in a dire state and all flights should be blocked with
no notice, during the current pandemic all travel should have
been stopped, it is in most of Europe, at least for holidays and
I am sure that the people who went to India, were going for a
holiday, no other reason springs to mind.

Mike.
 
Mike said:
Why did they, our Government, give a warning that travellers
from India will have to quarantine, starting on Friday!

But politicians are always aware of votes they will need in the
future.

India is in a dire state and all flights should be blocked with
no notice, during the current pandemic all travel should have
been stopped, it is in most of Europe, at least for holidays and
I am sure that the people who went to India, were going for a
holiday, no other reason springs to mind.

Mike.
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As always, politics first, people second or last.
 
hollydolly said:
But in its hospitals, short of oxygen, ventilators and beds, doctors started warning that they were becoming overwhelmed, including by a new phenomenon - younger patients.

Medics in Delhi say that two thirds of their new patients are under-45, while in Mumbai, doctors say that they are seeing children aged 12 to 15, where there were virtually no child admissions in the first wave.
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The entire article is very worrying but these two paragraphs jumped out. I'm so very sorry for the people of India. What a dreadful situation.
 
hollydolly said:
India's health system is collapsing under the fastest spreading coronavirus surge since the pandemic started, with gravediggers burning piles of bodies and crematorium furnaces melting from round-the-clock use.

Another 259,170 cases were recorded on Tuesday, the world's highest daily rate, and 1,761 deaths, the country's highest ever daily toll, after a new variant of Covid emerged which scientists fear could partly evade vaccines.

At the start of the year, India thought it had beaten the pandemic and had kicked off a mass vaccination drive.

Face masks and social distancing were cast aside and huge crowds flocked to religious festivals, election rallies and cricket matches.

But in its hospitals, short of oxygen, ventilators and beds, doctors started warning that they were becoming overwhelmed, including by a new phenomenon - younger patients.

Medics in Delhi say that two thirds of their new patients are under-45, while in Mumbai, doctors say that they are seeing children aged 12 to 15, where there were virtually no child admissions in the first wave.

One Gujarat hospital has set up the state's first paediatric coronavirus ward.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-collapsing-Covid-19-spreads-faster-ever.html

I'm very concerned about this news if true, I just could not take another lockdown because immigrants have been allowed in who have been in contact with the disease..again!!
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The hospitals here are at the breaking point, the vaccines are an off and on thing. They never stopped being busy this year.
We are now seeing many much younger people in the ICUs. Those that don't need intensive care stay in much longer, a few days ago we were informed that a triage is being set up.
Plenty of gaps in deliveries of vaccines and still there are planes coming and going and many people are infected.
I am so thankful to live where I live ... my plans are simple. I will continue as I have been for the last year.
Stay strong , do the best you have to give. There are very few sick outside of the larger cities here in Canada, is this similar to other countries? (y)(y)šŸ™‚
 
Mike said:
Why did they, our Government, give a warning that travellers
from India will have to quarantine, starting on Friday!

But politicians are always aware of votes they will need in the
future.

India is in a dire state and all flights should be blocked with
no notice, during the current pandemic all travel should have
been stopped, it is in most of Europe, at least for holidays and
I am sure that the people who went to India, were going for a
holiday, no other reason springs to mind.

Mike.
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Exactly....
 
Don M. said:
This virus is FAR from being contained, and with warmer weather approaching and travel and "gatherings" increasing, spikes and lockdowns are an almost certainty for the immediate future.
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we've just had almost a year of strict lockdown lifted slightly ..last Monday.That was everything closed except supermarkets banks, and petrol garages.. all shops, all salons, all gyms and leisure centres,all public pools..all stores which didn't sell food closed ..couldn't buy a car, couldn't buy specs, all pubs and restaurants closed, couldn't get to a dentist, doctor only available on the phone or by zoom....kids off school..lost a year of education.. people not able to visit relatives in any situation, even hospitals, for a year, 6 people only allowed at a funeral and no open caskets, in fact not even permitted to touch the closed coffin..... all travel banned unless for emergency, or business , and then 2 weeks quarrantine on return at a hotel designated by the govt but at our own expense, 850,000 people put out of work....

Huge mental health issues caused which again will cost the NHS millions ...



We've worked very hard here in the UK to get to the stage where we are now having our lockdown lifted... I will be very upset if these people coming in from India with no quarantining, cause us to have another upsurge, and separation & deaths to our elderly and yet another lockdown...
 
I dislike being critical of another country in connection to the virus. India is overcrowded, overground sewers are not great; but vermin live in all the slums of all the countries. As I understand it, New York City has a healthy large rat population and not just in the slums.

The United Kingdom has given the USA the UK version of the virus, and we have several other versions from other countries, but there is no USA version of the virus spreading to other countries that I know of. The poverty of India and its people is sad. It may not be overcrowded much longer. šŸ™

And Canada, which does not have Indiaā€s issues, suffers greatly from the virus as well. Itā€™s just all too sad. šŸ˜¢
 
"..................The United Kingdom has given the USA the UK version of the virus, and we have several other versions from other countries, but there is no USA version of the virus spreading to other countries that I know of. The poverty of India and its people is sad. It may not be overcrowded much longer. ".............

That's a total unknown. The "UK Variant" was discovered in the US some time ago. These variants are named for where they are first found which may or may not be the origin. It is absolutely as likely that an American went over to the UK and gave them the variant or from any country.
 
Gee and after so many folks made comments about us living in fear. And after all the new posts stating that this virus isn't as severe as they made it out to be and that the masks are so useless. Now look....this virus is growing right along and gathering strength as it goes. They "got us" living in fear alright. I'm afraid I don't wanna die.
 
It's true. India is over crowded with little sanitation and their health care is not what most of us would be used to. Same as Brazil, another country who's Covid situation is out of control and where the majority of the population lives in favelas (slums) or worse. Such a large percentage of the population living in abject poverty. The least of their worries is wearing a mask, social distancing and hand washing. Getting something to eat is their primary focus. I've travelled Brazil and seen quite a number of large cities. It's all glitz and glamour along beach strips but go 1 block up and this is how they live!
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Is it any wonder their healthcare system is in collapse as well and people are dying in unprecedented numbers?
So the question is do the richer countries block flights from these countries or start doing what ever we can to ramp up the immunization programs within these places or ..... a combination of both?
 
MrPants said:
It's true. India is over crowded with little sanitation and their health care is not what most of us would be used to. Same as Brazil, another country who's Covid situation is out of control and where the majority of the population lives in favelas (slums) or worse. Such a large percentage of the population living in abject poverty. The least of their worries is wearing a mask, social distancing and hand washing. Getting something to eat is their primary focus. I've travelled Brazil and seen quite a number of large cities. It's all glitz and glamour along beach strips but go 1 block up and this is how they live!
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Is it any wonder their healthcare system is in collapse as well and people are dying in unprecedented numbers?
So the question is do the richer countries block flights from these countries or start doing what ever we can to ramp up the immunization programs within these places or ..... a combination of both?
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Maybe we need to close the borders for a while. Not just to India.
 
Aneeda72 said:
I dislike being critical of another country in connection to the virus. India is overcrowded, overground sewers are not great; but vermin live in all the slums of all the countries. As I understand it, New York City has a healthy large rat population and not just in the slums.

The United Kingdom has given the USA the UK version of the virus, and we have several other versions from other countries, but there is no USA version of the virus spreading to other countries that I know of. The poverty of India and its people is sad. It may not be overcrowded much longer. šŸ™

And Canada, which does not have Indiaā€s issues, suffers greatly from the virus as well. Itā€™s just all too sad. šŸ˜¢
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There's no proof whatsoever the UK ''gave the USA'' the virus ....
 
MarciKS said:
Maybe we need to close the borders for a while. Not just to India.
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that's what's annoying here.. our borders have been closed,and anyone who has come back from anywhere has had to quarrantine at their own expense in a designated hotel for 2 weeks, much to their annoyance, but it has to be done. These people are arriving here ,900 every day from India until Friday, with no quarantining...
 

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