Vaccine risks vs. reward

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Opinion by
Fareed Zakaria
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April 22, 2021 at 6:13 p.m. EDT

The pandemic has brought out the crazy in all of us. We’ve all been selective about the science we take seriously and the stuff we disregard. We’ve often been more moved by vivid anecdotes than scholarly studies.

But I really start to worry when even the experts seem irrational. Consider the decision from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Food and Drug Administration to recommend pausing distribution of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine after six cases of severe blood clots were reported in the United States (now nine). Nearly 7 million Americans had already safely received the vaccine. That’s a 0.0001 percent chance of a blood clot.
Meanwhile, 1.5 percent of covid-19 patients still die from the virus. In other words, even if all the blood clots proved fatal — and most have not been — the virus would still be thousands of times more dangerous than the vaccine.

The agencies’ decision came after similar rare reports of blood clotting led European nations to temporarily suspend the AstraZeneca vaccine in March. That vaccine uses technology similar to Johnson & Johnson’s, and again its benefits far outweigh the potential dangers.
These government pauses are fueling many people’s fears about vaccine safety, perpetuating conspiracy theories and wasting precious time at a moment when the crucial imperative is to get people vaccinated. Many developing nations are counting on these two vaccines because they are cheaper than mRNA vaccines and easier to store. Now, though, even some people in those places are scared to get them.
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There is a pattern to the problem. Politicians and governments are much too worried about the chance of something bad happening on their watch, no matter how unlikely. For example, there has been a reluctance to send children back to school, even though numerous studies have found the risks to be quite low if precautions are taken. And while the dangers are exaggerated, few people think about the massive benefits to society — to children, parents, the economy as a whole — if schools would reopen quickly.

Sometimes this obsession with risk turns into what the Atlantic’s Derek Thompson calls “hygiene theater.” It has been apparent that the virus overwhelmingly spreads by breathing, not by touching surfaces. Yet businesses have made a great show of sanitizing everything, as if activities such as indoor dining are somehow safe if only the tables are clean. Thompson is reminded of the “security theater” at airports after 9/11. An elaborate set of measures — toss away your water bottles! — was put into place to make people feel safe, much of it useless.

More important, the obsession with the dangers of terrorism — which, even after 9/11, were quite low — led us to build a massive new homeland security industrial complex, launch military interventions across the globe and curtail civil liberties just to try to reduce the incidence of terrorism to as close to zero as possible. We denied hundreds of thousands of people visas into the United States just because we wanted to be sure that no one let in someone who turned out to be a terrorist. In government, the incentive is always to take every precaution and spend as much money as necessary to ensure that bad things don’t happen. Those are the events that make you lose your job or get you pilloried by the media or hauled in front of a congressional committee. If you make lots of good things happen, by contrast, you will be lucky to get a pat on the back.

During the early stages of the pandemic, the U.S. government kept worrying too much about all the problems that could emerge from rapid mass testing and neglected to consider the huge benefits of returning to normal life. Harvard epidemiologist Michael Mina argued that we should have authorized all kinds of tests — in-home, pregnancy-style ones, for example — that would have offered constant information about who was safe and unsafe. Getting tests to be 100 percent accurate was less important than catching most cases before they spread.

The truth is that we live with risks all the time. Nearly 40,000 Americans die every year in car accidents. Would we agree to make the speed limit 25 miles per hour if it would save half of those deaths? Even now, hundreds of Americans are dying of covid every day, compared with the nine people who got blood clots. We need to think more closely, carefully and rationally about risk and remember to balance it with that other half of the equation: reward.
 

Good post, everyone should get the shots!
Nope. Everyone who wants to should get the shots. Your health is in your hands. Others' health is in their hands.
If you had confidence in the shots, you wouldn't be concerned about people who don't want the shots because your shot would protect you.
What's stopping you from getting the shots?
 

Another good opinion, and just another opinion. This might be all thats needed for anyone that is already almost convinced to get the shot. Those who don't want the shot will most likely not change their mind because of a nice online article in favor of getting it like this one or the many others.
 
It's a nice post, but I doubt that it will change any minds.

We all need to make choices that we feel are best for our situation and accept the consequences of those decisions.

I'm happy with my decision to get the J&J shot.

My brother-in-law/doctor wrote me a sweet letter urging me to get the shot and recommended the Pfizer shot. He said, "We all love you and want you to enjoy a good long life. We would miss you terribly and it would be such a waste that was completely preventable."

So I'm scheduled to get it tomorrow but I sure hate putting those ingredients into my body when I'm always so careful not to to put anything unnatural in it. I've never had the flu shot and have never gotten the flu. My immune sytsem is great. It's a tough decision...but I made the appointment.

But I have no intention of shaming anyone who chooses not to have it. I won't judge their reasons. It's a personal decision for all.
 
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My brother-in-law/doctor wrote me a sweet letter urging me to get the shot and recommended the Pfizer shot. He said, "We all love you and want you to enjoy a good long life. We would miss you terribly and it would be such a waste that was completely preventable."

I'm scheduled to get it tomorrow but I sure hate putting those ingredients into my body when I'm always so careful not to to put anything unnatural in it. I've never had the flu shot and have never gotten the flu. My immune sytsem is great. It's a tough decision...but I made the appointment.
I wouldn't get anything like this because someone else want's me to. This is a personal decision that no one should make but yourself. Your words " I sure hate putting those ingredients into my body " tells me that you need to make sure that this is what YOU want to do.
 
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During a pandemic, no decision is "personal." If you live in a community you are playing a part in the preservation of that community ... therefore... if others are willing to protect you by getting vaccinated... You owe them a debt and that debt is to get vaccinated unless you are cleared not by your family doctor alone but an impartial examiner.
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Everyone who wants to should get the shots. Your health is in your hands. Others' health is in their hands.
I don't think it is quite so simple. If you get the vaccine you are less likely to contract and spread the virus to others. So by getting it you positively impact not only your own health but the health of others. So to some extent others' health is in your hands. Statistically we are not yet sure how complete this protection is, but I believe it is clear that by getting the vaccine you are helping protect others.

As you and others here have said this is a personal choice, and it is a free county, I would not want anyone to be forced to get the vaccine. However I would hope people carefully consider the good science behind this before deciding not to get one. And to try and put the politics and media hype aside. For some that will make it, quite understandably, a hard decision, I just hope most make the right one.

We are not very good at understanding relative risk, but this is one time it really is worthwhile for folks to make the effort.

And I did get the shots, 2 Pfizers, as soon as I was able to qualify.
 
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During a pandemic, no decision is "personal." If you live in a community you are playing a part in the preservation of that community ... therefore... if others are willing to protect you by getting vaccinated... You owe them a debt and that debt is to get vaccinated unless you are cleared not by your family doctor alone but an impartial examiner.
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"Others are willing to protect you by getting vaccinated?" LOL. Amazing mind-reading talent.
Others don't protect anyone else by getting vaccinated. Others get vaccinated to protect themselves.
 
I don't think it is quite so simple. If you get the vaccine you are less likely to contract and spread the virus to others. So by getting it you positively impact not only your own health but the health of others. So to some extent others' health is in your hands. Statistically we are not yet sure how complete this protection is, but I believe it is clear that by getting the vaccine you are helping protect others.

As you and others here have said this is a personal choice, and it is a free county, I would not want anyone to be forced to get the vaccine. However I would hope people carefully consider the good science behind this before deciding not to get one. And to try and put the politics and media hype aside. For some that will make it, quite understandably, a hard decision, I just hope most make the right one.

We are not very good at understanding relative risk, but this is one time it really is worthwhile for folks to make the effort.

And I did get the shots, 2 Pfizers, as soon as I was able to qualify.
Perhaps you aren't aware that the CDC has said the vaccine will not prevent transmission to others. So, "Protecting Others" is not a valid reason to get the vaccine.
 
It goes to show how little YOU know. The CDC has already said the vaccine will not prevent transmission to others.
But don't let that stop you from feeling like a "Hero." 😁
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Yes...I do feel like a hero, because I intend to do the right thing for myself and the rest of humanity. Btw....please could you produce a link of what the CDC said bearing in mind, the CDC does not speak for every other medical body in the world.
 
Perhaps you aren't aware that the CDC has said the vaccine will not prevent transmission to others.
This is what the CDC has said most recently: "A growing body of evidence suggests that fully vaccinated people are less likely to have asymptomatic infection and potentially less likely to transmit SARS-CoV-2 to others." see https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/fully-vaccinated-people.html

Given where we are with this, the newness of it all and the careful way that the CDC and other scientifically based organizations move this is about as good as the evidence can be right now. Please look more closely...

Science is never 100% certain of anything, we just have to follow the best evidence.
 
This is what the CDC has said most recently: "A growing body of evidence suggests that fully vaccinated people are less likely to have asymptomatic infection and potentially less likely to transmit SARS-CoV-2 to others." see https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/fully-vaccinated-people.html

Given where we are with this, the newness of it all and the careful way that the CDC and other scientifically based organizations move this is about as good as the evidence can be right now. Please look more closely...
A couple of weeks ago, it was "The vaccine won't prevent transmission, but it may make your symptoms less severe." (same info with flu shots - after people complained about getting the flu despite flu shots).
Now, it's weasel words like, "Potentially" & "Less Likely." And, "You must continue to wear masks & keep social distance after you are vaccinated."
Coincidence that yesterday & today's news reported less interest in the vaccine than previously.

Please look more closely.....
 
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Yes...I do feel like a hero, because I intend to do the right thing for myself and the rest of humanity. Btw....please could you produce a link of what the CDC said bearing in mind, the CDC does not speak for every other medical body in the world.
Whatever it takes to boost your ego is fine with me. :giggle:
 
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During a pandemic, no decision is "personal." If you live in a community you are playing a part in the preservation of that community ... therefore... if others are willing to protect you by getting vaccinated... You owe them a debt and that debt is to get vaccinated unless you are cleared not by your family doctor alone but an impartial examiner.
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Oh, I get it. Perhaps waterboarding or a stiff prison sentence might be appropriate for those that don't get the shot, would that appease the vaxx masters ? How would Octavian or Sulla have handled something as terrifying as independent thought?.🤪😜
 
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It is better to be driven by Ego... than to be paralysed by fear and cowardice (Dana)🦅🦅
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