Maskholes

The man was guilty of a crime. That is not a valid justification of enforcement.
Right you are, the mans actions were out of line, but let's not excuse the acting parties in your country in their failure to implement appropriate measures that would prevent such episodes.
 

This was in TX where it is just a merchant rule.
It shouldn't be "just a merchant rule", it should a law set by your governing parties and established authorities who are the voice when it comes to Covid-19 criteria.

From this side of the border I can't say I'm convinced that your country is serious about Covid-19. The people (as a whole) seem to set their own rules and guidelines, doing as they so please along the way, while your governing parties thank them with stimulus monies.
 
It shouldn't be "just a merchant rule", it should a law set by your governing parties and established authorities who are the voice when it comes to Covid-19 criteria.

From this side of the border I can't say I'm convinced that your country is serious about Covid-19. The people (as a whole) seem to set their own rules and guidelines, doing as they so please along the way, while your governing parties thank them with stimulus monies.
It is the law in TX Marge set by the governor of Texas
 
This jerk reminded of another incident I posted about when Covid just started & there were lines at markets.
One shopper decided to get a cart & keep it next to him while waiting in line.
Another shopper (not an employee) wearing gloves & constantly rubbing them with alcohol wipes told him, "Sir, you're not supposed to have your cart with you; you're supposed get your cart after you're directed to enter the store."
The guy with the cart (around twice the size of the jerk) said, "Mind your own business."
The jerk said, "You're not supposed to have your cart with you."
The guy with the cart walked up to him, looked down at him & said, "I suggest you shop somewhere else before you get hurt."
The jerk wisely walked to the end of the line.
 
I'm not a big shorts person, but there was nothing wrong with that man's shorts.
About 3" too short, especially for an old guy. but shorter shorts are supposedly coming back in style. Is he trendy or did he just keep wearing his outdated short shorts until they came back in style? Enquiring minds want to know.
 
About 3" too short, especially for an old guy. but shorter shorts are supposedly coming back in style. Is he trendy or did he just keep wearing his outdated short shorts until they came back in style? Enquiring minds want to know.
What people choose to wear is a personal choice, many of us aren't led by the latest fashions, but just dress sensibly and comfortably. I'm in that category, don't care a thing about being 'trendy', if that's important to some, good for them.
 
What people choose to wear is a personal choice, many of us aren't led by the latest fashions, but just dress sensibly and comfortably. I'm in that category, don't care a thing about being 'trendy', if that's important to some, good for them.
Current men's fashions have brought shorts back up above the knee. Whatever else this guy's story is, his apparel selection is au courant.
 
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@Aunt Marg Unfortunately we have people like her that refuse to wear masks here too. Some store management can’t be bothered enforcing it. On FB there’s discussions of where the anti-maskers can get away without a mask. Or they say to just lie and say they have a medical exemption. The middle-aged clerk at the door has given up, obviously because of the lack of support by management who just can’t be bothered. There’s no one to come and give them a fine. Right from the start, our cities should have hired extra bylaw officers to deal with offenders or the stores that don’t enforce the rules.

My 17 granddaughter had a boy in her class who refused to wear a mask, even after being sent to the office. My GD turned around to him and said “please put your mask on, you’re making me very uncomfortable.” He did.
 
@Aunt Marg Unfortunately we have people like her that refuse to wear masks here too. Some store management can’t be bothered enforcing it. On FB there’s discussions of where the anti-maskers can get away without a mask. Or they say to just lie and say they have a medical exemption. The middle-aged clerk at the door has given up, obviously because of the lack of support by management who just can’t be bothered. There’s no one to come and give them a fine. Right from the start, our cities should have hired extra bylaw officers to deal with offenders or the stores that don’t enforce the rules.

My 17 granddaughter had a boy in her class who refused to wear a mask, even after being sent to the office. My GD turned around to him and said “please put your mask on, you’re making me very uncomfortable.” He did.
So discouraging to hear that, Jules.

I truly believe it's time our governing parties beefed-up the fines for violators.
 
@Aunt Marg Unfortunately we have people like her that refuse to wear masks here too. Some store management can’t be bothered enforcing it. On FB there’s discussions of where the anti-maskers can get away without a mask. Or they say to just lie and say they have a medical exemption. The middle-aged clerk at the door has given up, obviously because of the lack of support by management who just can’t be bothered. There’s no one to come and give them a fine. Right from the start, our cities should have hired extra bylaw officers to deal with offenders or the stores that don’t enforce the rules.

My 17 granddaughter had a boy in her class who refused to wear a mask, even after being sent to the office. My GD turned around to him and said “please put your mask on, you’re making me very uncomfortable.” He did.
There's also a problem of consequences. If the police are called, they're not going to arrest or jail mask rule offenders. At worst they'll escort them from the stores and tell them not to return without masks.
 
At our local mall, there are guards at each entrance who check shoppers are wearing masks. Also, they have a list of questions on a placard that must be answered, re: Covid symptoms. Of course, anyone could lie, but at least they have to be masked.
 
There's also a problem of consequences. If the police are called, they're not going to arrest or jail mask rule offenders. At worst they'll escort them from the stores and tell them not to return without masks.
There sure is, yet there shouldn't be knowing the severity of the virus.

The general public is being failed in a really big way.
 
This guy is an obnoxious bully, clearly with anger control issues. He is probably the type that engages in road rage all the time.

About the mask "law," I think most buildings and business establishments are asking people to cooperate. My own building has signs all over the lobby saying that mask wearing is required in the public areas of the building. Yet, I have forgotten to put on my mask once or twice, when going from my apartment down the hall, down the elevator, and through the lobby to my car (a total of about 2 minutes), and no one has ever said a word. Now that mask wearing has been waived when outdoors (in my state), it's even more common for people to forget to put the mask on when "required." Nearly everyone here has been vaccinated, so there will probably be no dire consequences.

So, what does that word "required" mean, anyway? No one is going to be arrested, no one even mentions it. I think the word "requested" would be a better word to use. That store was clearly not requiring the use of masks, they were requesting it and hoping that people would be civilized about it. If there was a cop present in that store, he probably could have arrested the guy for verbal assault.
 
So, what does that word "required" mean, anyway? No one is going to be arrested, no one even mentions it. I think the word "requested" would be a better word to use.
Speaking only for Ohio, when covid first surfaced, the Gov. issued an Executive order for mandatory mask wearing, and the director of the Ohio dept. of Health issued an order pursuant to State law making it a criminal offense if violated, possible three months in jail/$750.00 fine. Although an arrestable offense, it did not turn the police into the Masked Avenger to do so.

If there was a cop present in that store, he probably could have arrested the guy for verbal assault.
Have not looked through TX/the local city law, but yes, some type of Breach of Peace law/ordinance, Disorderly conduct, etc.
 
There's also a problem of consequences. If the police are called, they're not going to arrest or jail mask rule offenders. At worst they'll escort them from the stores and tell them not to return without masks.
Unless there’s violence, the police aren’t called. That’s why I feel they should have hired extra bylaw officers who could have dealt with the problems and removed them from the store and/or given them a ticket.

One grocery store has taken a firm stance. They have a fit man standing by the door, no BS permitted.

Masks are REQUIRED in stores in BC. This was decreed by the Chief Public Health Officer. There is a sign on every building.
 


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