Over 200 Children's Bodies Found At Old Indigenous People's School In Canada

Yep! Just what we want! Kids with guns.
NOT! That’s is NOT and never will be a solution here.
I grew up in a town where many of the kids (mostly boys) had guns, as did many households and businesses. Getting a gun was sort of a teenage rite of passage. What we didn't have was crime. What we did have was parents who paid attention to what we were doing and how we were growing up. Nobody every got shot. Guns were viewed as something to be respected and you had to show responsibility to get one. There would have been no mass shootings in our HS because the perp would have been dead after the first shot (and borderline kids knew it). Perhaps you had to be there to understand. Maybe not in your mind but in our town it WAS a solution to a number of potential problems.
 

The scary part is that some of the staff and administrators that perpetrated some of these acts may still be alive. They need to be hunted down and at least questioned like the criminal suspects they are. I don't care if they spend all day in a rocker or are in a hospital somewhere. If they can speak they can be interrogated/interviewed.
 
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There would have been no mass shootings in our HS because the perp would have been dead after the first shot (and borderline kids knew it).
Are you saying kids carried guns to school, even back then?
 

The state of MA has somewhat similar horror story - The State School For The Feeble Minded that was in Belchertown, MA. Established in 1922 and closed in 1992 after a series of lawsuits, the school was a place to put "feeble-minded" children who had absolutely not disability rights. Infortunately, it also became a place to put children without disabilities that fell through the cracks of the child protective system. It was a truly horrible place, the stories of which would make you cry, become angry and want to throttle those who ran the place. There's a story HERE but I suggest you not read it if you don't want to get upset.
 
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Are you saying kids carried guns to school, even back then?
If we were going camping, hunting or shooting, which was often, yes Why not? What people fail to understand was that getting a gun, usually when turning 13, was a highly-desired right of passage for which kids would learn to act with maturity and responsibility. In some ways, it was more important than being able to drive a car or truck. There were those kids, of course, whose parents wouldn't let them have a gun and in most cases, it was a good call. As I said, virtually all of us had parents who actively engaged in parenting as one of their highest priorities. That said, these were the years after WWII and most fathers were the antithesis of "sissypants twits" and were quite familiar with firearms.
 
The scary part is that some of the staff and administrators that perpetrated some of these acts may still be alive. They need to be hunted down and at least questioned like the criminal suspects they are. I don't care if they spend all day in a rocker or are in a hospital somewhere. If they can speak they can be interrogated/interviewed.
Yes, along with those who overseen the operation of such animalistic orphanages, those who washed their hands clean of any/all responsibility.
 
This is really sad, we have all read the stories over the
years about occurrences like this, they always sicken
me and if there is a Hell, then the perpetrators of such
heinous crimes should go straight there without a trial!

Canada is such a lovely place which makes it all the more
sad and puzzling, but there are weirdos all over the World.

Mike.
 
Yes, along with those who overseen the operation of such animalistic orphanages, those who washed their hands clean of any/all responsibility.
That would be some politicians although unless they were really young they're probably all gone. They say the progam peaked out in the 1950s which there still could be 80-100 year olds around.
 
This is really sad, we have all read the stories over the
years about occurrences like this, they always sicken
me and if there is a Hell, then the perpetrators of such
heinous crimes should go straight there without a trial!

Canada is such a lovely place which makes it all the more
sad and puzzling, but there are weirdos all over the World.

Mike.
Unfortunately the indigenous people have been treated very unfairly in Canada. Our country is indeed beautiful but it certainly isn’t without fault. There are so many things Canada could improve on and this is certainly one of them. We also had huge problems with orphanages and the Catholic Church so YES there are perpetrators everywhere throughout the world. Unfortunately they prey on the less fortunate or most vulnerable, which are usually children. 😟
 
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That would be some politicians although unless they were really young they're probably all gone. They say the progam peaked out in the 1950s which there still could be 80-100 year olds around.
It's so maddening to me to know cases such as this are purposely put on the back burner, ignored, brushed under the table, and then and only then when enough victims come forth, a case is initiated, but backdoor games see the case move ahead at a snails pace, and while intentional foot-dragging and stalling goes on, perpetrators begin dropping off (dying), and in the end justice fails to be served.
 
I grew up in a town where many of the kids (mostly boys) had guns, as did many households and businesses. Getting a gun was sort of a teenage rite of passage. What we didn't have was crime. What we did have was parents who paid attention to what we were doing and how we were growing up. Nobody every got shot. Guns were viewed as something to be respected and you had to show responsibility to get one. There would have been no mass shootings in our HS because the perp would have been dead after the first shot (and borderline kids knew it). Perhaps you had to be there to understand. Maybe not in your mind but in our town it WAS a solution to a number of potential problems.
This may very well have been the case back in your day and time as a kid. Back then most people were more considerate and respectful.
There was certainly more trust also.

Flash forward to the present day and it’s definitely not the same thing. There isn’t the same courtesy and respect. Entertainment has become increasingly more violent. Games aren’t appealing to most kids these days unless there’s plenty of violence. Respect and consideration has been replaced by normalized hostility by many of our youth who fall through the cracks.
If loading a gun is the first thing people think of to solve a ‘potentially’ hostile situation, it’s no wonder there’s a problem.

Are you suggesting that kids would be far safer in school if they just took a gun and shot any perpetrator who was causing trouble?

I’m not by any means saying I’ve got a solution, cause I don’t. I am saying that I just can’t relate. Saying that, there was a high school shooting when I attended school but it wasn’t our school. I think 6 or 7 kids were shot. A kid got a hold of his fathers guns.
School shootings happen here too. Just not as often, touch wood.
 
The RCMP (armed) would show up at the child's home as soon as the child turned 4 , the child was then taken to the residential school, where the child would suffer all sorts of abuse. After the child was sexually abused they were forced to pray for their abuser. They would be beaten if they spoke in their own languages...more punishment for the slightest rule broken. These kids had to stay until they were 18, by then they knew nothing of their own culture, they didn't even know their own families. Those schools were a continuing nightmare for the kids and then affected the next 2 or 3 generations as well.
For many children and grandchildren of survivors, intergenerational impacts continue to be felt to this day. Residential schools are not a thing of the distant past. It wasn't until 1984 that all residential schools in BC were closed down; the last one in Canada didn't close until 1996.
 
The RCMP (armed) would show up at the child's home as soon as the child turned 4 , the child was then taken to the residential school, where the child would suffer all sorts of abuse. After the child was sexually abused they were forced to pray for their abuser. They would be beaten if they spoke in their own languages...more punishment for the slightest rule broken. These kids had to stay until they were 18, by then they knew nothing of their own culture, they didn't even know their own families. Those schools were a continuing nightmare for the kids and then affected the next 2 or 3 generations as well.
Stunning this program and/or schools didn't get shutdown until as late as 1996, even 1984 seems late. The one in the op was shutdown in 1969 I think it was.

If autopsies or dating on the remains put these children with in those years there's a chance some of that staff, administrators and/or politicians that advocated for this program may still be alive.
 
I grew up in a town of 40.000 residents in its heyday ( I believe the population is around 16.000 now ) due to the mines closing some time ago.

I attended a catholic school for all of my primary school days (I have an very battered photo somewhere) taken at holy communion .
My mother removed me from the school after I and many others students had the backs of our hands beaten with a steel edged ruler for not owing up who was talking in class in the nuns absence .

So I know only to well how brutal the nuns are from my days at the school .

The old saying in the town was every man and his dog were catholic, our local priest drank way to much ( at the hotel ) and was always crashing his car into the fence where he lived
 
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I grew up in a town of 40.000 residents in it heyday ( I believe the population is around 16.000 now ) due to the mines closing some time ago.

I attended a catholic school for all of my primary school days (I have an very battered photo somewhere) taken at holy communion .
My mother removed me from the school after I and many others students had the backs of our hands beaten with a steel edged ruler for not owing up who was talking in class in the nuns absence .

So I know only to well how brutal the nuns are from my days at the school .

The old saying in the town was every man and his dog were catholic, our local priest drank way to much ( at the hotel ) and was always crashing his car into the fence where he lived
So happy to know your mom got you out of there, Kadee, but on the day she pulled you out she should have given back to them a little of what they gave you. :mad:
 
The indigenous children were removed from their homes in the arrogant and racist belief that the white gov‘ts etc were doing them a favour. Apparently First Nations were unable to be adequate parents. Only if they became brown copies of the white culture, assimilating completely, at the expense of their own culture, language etc, would they ever thrive.

Brainwashing children was a necessary thing. Right....Look how well that turned out. That was abuse enough. As for the horrors that ensued, my heart is full of grief, and shame. My culture owes a huge debt to our aboriginal brothers and sisters. Apologies are not enough, reparations are needed. Many people in my profession enthusiastically participated in the promotion of residential schools, ohhhhh. 🤬
 
The indigenous children were removed from their homes in the arrogant and racist belief that the white gov‘ts etc were doing them a favour. Apparently First Nations were unable to be adequate parents. Only if they became brown copies of the white culture, assimilating completely, at the expense of their own culture, language etc, would they ever thrive.

Brainwashing children was a necessary thing. Right....Look how well that turned out. That was abuse enough. As for the horrors that ensued, my heart is full of grief, and shame. My culture owes a huge debt to our aboriginal brothers and sisters. Apologies are not enough, reparations are needed. Many people in my profession enthusiastically participated in the promotion of residential schools, ohhhhh. 🤬
Same thing happened to Indigenous people in Australia .
Has anyone seen the movie Rabbit proof fence ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit-Proof_Fence
 
So happy to know your mom got you out of there, Kadee, but on the day she pulled you out she should have given back to them a little of what they gave you. :mad:
Would you believe
my brutal teacher was still alive when I logged an offical complaint against her 5 years ago.
Our government held an extensive royal commission into child abuse in schools and institutions which left the doors open to lodge complaints, so the government was aware of just how many were abused by teachers and institutions.

She was 95 that the time . I was 70
 
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Would you believe
my brutal teacher was still alive when I logged an offical complaint against her 5 years ago.
Our government held an extensive royal commission into child abuse in schools and institutions which left the doors open to lodge complaints, so the government was aware of just how many were abused by teachers and institutions.

She was 95 that the time . I was 70
This is exactly what I was afraid of, Kadee, top authorities being fully aware of the goings-on.

These scum-filled and scum-run institutions should have all been shut down the very instant it came to light that abuses were happening.

Every single individual that can be tied to these abuses should be held accountable, and not just on paper or in the manner of lip-service to the public, I mean they should really be held accountable.

Job loss, crippling financial measures, jail time, make a serious example out of each and every one of them, and make it hurt and last a lifetime, just like those who were abused have to suffer.
 
The indigenous children were removed from their homes in the arrogant and racist belief that the white gov‘ts etc were doing them a favour. Apparently First Nations were unable to be adequate parents. Only if they became brown copies of the white culture, assimilating completely, at the expense of their own culture, language etc, would they ever thrive.

Brainwashing children was a necessary thing. Right....Look how well that turned out. That was abuse enough. As for the horrors that ensued, my heart is full of grief, and shame. My culture owes a huge debt to our aboriginal brothers and sisters. Apologies are not enough, reparations are needed. Many people in my profession enthusiastically participated in the promotion of residential schools, ohhhhh. 🤬
Totally agree. First we steal their land.
Then we rip their kids away from them.
RCMP would go in and rip these kids away from their parents at the age of 4, like they were ALL unfit parents. They cut their hair and forbid them to talk their native language. Many of them never saw their parents again. Instead they just beat them like they were monsters.

Why does our culture expect everyone to be the same? Why do we think our way is better? Why do we even intervene?

It really IS a shameful thing.
I hate to think what other graveyards will be found of our indigenous people. 😒
 
Totally agree. First we steal their land.
Then we rip their kids away from them.
RCMP would go in and rip these kids away from their parents like they were ALL unfit parents. They cut their hair and forbid them to talk their native language. Many of them never saw their parents again. Instead they just beat them like they were monsters.

Why does our culture expect everyone to be the same? Why do we think our way is better? Why do we even intervene?

It really IS a shameful thing.
I hate to think what other graveyards will be found of our indigenous people. 😒
I never stop thinking about the many that will never be found, the many who's words or cries were never heard.
 
This is exactly what I was afraid of, Kadee, top authorities being fully aware of the goings-on.

These scum-filled and scum-run institutions should have all been shut down the very instant it came to light that abuses were happening.

Every single individual that can be tied to these abuses should be held accountable, and not just on paper or in the manner of lip-service to the public, I mean they should really be held accountable.

Job loss, crippling financial measures, jail time, make a serious example out of each and every one of them, and make it hurt and last a lifetime, just like those who were abused have to suffer.
But then our government would have to admit responsibility for this and they just aren’t willing to own up to it.
 

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