Evictions going into effect here in AZ....

Colleen

Colleen

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Don't know what the rest of the country is doing concerning evictions from apartments, but in Phoenix, all extensions have run out (even though there's plenty of money received by the government) and even if someone applied in March, their application hasn't even been processed yet. On the news last night there was a story about a single mother working 2 jobs with a son in high school and her landlord is kicking her out the end of this month. She applied in March but has never had any help. What a shame.
 

Our moratorium on evictions is set to expire on August 31, 2021, unless something changes between now and then.

I'm curious to see how many if any evictions take place in my complex of just over 200 apartments.

I'm at somewhat of a loss to understand why people collecting unemployment insurance with an additional $300/week supplement and various stimulus checks were unable to pay all or most of their rent.
 
Colleen said:
Don't know what the rest of the country is doing concerning evictions from apartments, but in Phoenix, all extensions have run out (even though there's plenty of money received by the government) and even if someone applied in March, their application hasn't even been processed yet. On the news last night there was a story about a single mother working 2 jobs with a son in high school and her landlord is kicking her out the end of this month. She applied in March but has never had any help. What a shame.
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I wouldn’t be surprised if some generous person steps up and pays her rent.
 
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Aunt Bea said:
Our moratorium on evictions is set to expire on August 31, 2021, unless something changes between now and then.

I'm curious to see how many if any evictions take place in my complex of just over 200 apartments.

I'm at somewhat of a loss to understand why people collecting unemployment insurance with an additional $300/week supplement and various stimulus checks were unable to pay all or most of their rent.
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Agree. And I am also at a loss as to why the landlords were expected to just absorb the loss to them.

Were the banks forgiving the mortgages ? No, so the landlord must take the loss ? Get into his/her savings to keep things going ?

As far as I'm concerned, if a person can't make the rent ? ..... Get out.

Now, that said, if I had a long term tenant that was a "good" tenant , I would work something out with them, or perhaps just forgive it altogether. But that would be by my choice , the government mandating it is B.S.
 
One thing that I don't know if people are aware of: A landlord could evict a tenant, even during the height of the pandemic, if the reason was NOT rent payment. In one of our rental houses we had a tenant last year, a young woman, that turned just toxic. When she was by herself she was fine. But then she let a boyfriend move in (which in itself was was a violation of the lease) and things went quickly downhill. She had about 10 violations of the lease and because of that we were able to evict her.

She wrecked the house by the time we were able to get her out. And don't worry about her financial situation. We found out that between her and her boyfriend, they were making $48,000 per year from the government. She was a real piece of work. A lot of tenants know how to work and scam the system.
 
rgp said:
Agree. And I am also at a loss as to why the landlords were expected to just absorb the loss to them.

Were the banks forgiving the mortgages ? No, so the landlord must take the loss ? Get into his/her savings to keep things going ?

As far as I'm concerned, if a person can't make the rent ? ..... Get out.

Now, that said, if I had a long term tenant that was a "good" tenant , I would work something out with them, or perhaps just forgive it altogether. But that would be by my choice , the government mandating it is B.S.
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Unfortunately and with a “heavy heart”, I finally have to agree with rgp. Landlords, especially the smaller ones, cannot afford the loss of income and the larger landlords would quickly run into trouble as well. Paying the rent should have been the first priority for everyone.
 
Texas, like Arizona, is sitting on federal funds for renters in arrears also ...
The deadline for evictions was set for July 31st, but now that date has been moved to October I believe.

Seems it's like a game to those with the power to help ... some need it, but many take advantage of the system.
Unemployment is down and there are jobs available.
 
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I think it probably is time for this. Unemployment is down and the economy has recovered in many ways. Continuing subsidies makes little sense. That said I know this will be a hardship for some, and I hope they can find help or a way thought it, but there are always poor people in need. We are now getting back to something closer to normal.

I am not sure how this has effected landlords, but as a former owner of a couple of rentals I have some sympathy for them. We cannot expect landlords to disproportionally pay. I also agree that way too much of the covid relief $ went to the rich, a lot of it was quite wasted. Another reason to end it.
 
The typical immediate reaction is to feel sorry for the woman.

With only this as the description of her situation.
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" On the news last night there was a story about a single mother working 2 jobs with a son in high school and her landlord is kicking her out the end of this month."

The article could provide info like this.

Was she working two jobs and paying her rent before the moratorium?
If not paying rent what was she doing with the money from her jobs?
Did the land lord own the rental place free & clear & somewhat able to absorb the loss of rent. Or did the land lord have a mortgage payment to meet?
Did the single mother of the high school age son have any help from the father if alive or soc. sec. if dead?

But with go fund me being popular maybe she will get enough help to buy her own home & rent out rooms.
 
Aunt Bea said:
Our moratorium on evictions is set to expire on August 31, 2021, unless something changes between now and then.

I'm curious to see how many if any evictions take place in my complex of just over 200 apartments.

I'm at somewhat of a loss to understand why people collecting unemployment insurance with an additional $300/week supplement and various stimulus checks were unable to pay all or most of their rent.
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Obviously, you don't know how much rent is, especially in Phoenix. Not everyone got that $300 and how far do you think those meager stimulus checks went when they have families? Not very compassionate, are you?
 
About the woman, 'working two jobs'. If she's working two jobs, why can't she pay the rent? If she can't, then she can't afford to live there. Her landlord does not have to start his own welfare agency. BTW, I assume she is also getting child support. I know it's getting almost impossible to get decent affordable housing in some cities- it may not even exist, but you can't place that burden on the backs of landlords to fix the situation.
 
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rgp said:
Agree. And I am also at a loss as to why the landlords were expected to just absorb the loss to them.

Were the banks forgiving the mortgages ? No, so the landlord must take the loss ? Get into his/her savings to keep things going ?

As far as I'm concerned, if a person can't make the rent ? ..... Get out.

Now, that said, if I had a long term tenant that was a "good" tenant , I would work something out with them, or perhaps just forgive it altogether. But that would be by my choice , the government mandating it is B.S.
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WOW! I think you're missing the point of my post. She wasn't just sitting around collecting her $300/week for doing nothing. She works 2 jobs that don't pay anything just to buy groceries for her and her son. The stimulus checks went to her rent but it wasn't enough.

My point was....there's funds for these people but our governor and his cronies won't release it. They're sitting on it like TX and even processing applications for people that have done all they should from way back in March. She's not the derelict one...our government is.

And....she is getting out of Phoenix as soon as her son graduates this coming year...if not sooner. She said she's going back to MN.
 
Knight said:
The typical immediate reaction is to feel sorry for the woman.

With only this as the description of her situation.
Quote
" On the news last night there was a story about a single mother working 2 jobs with a son in high school and her landlord is kicking her out the end of this month."

The article could provide info like this.

Was she working two jobs and paying her rent before the moratorium?
If not paying rent what was she doing with the money from her jobs?
Did the land lord own the rental place free & clear & somewhat able to absorb the loss of rent. Or did the land lord have a mortgage payment to meet?
Did the single mother of the high school age son have any help from the father if alive or soc. sec. if dead?

But with go fund me being popular maybe she will get enough help to buy her own home & rent out rooms.
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There was a local story here about a year ago, about this poor-poor mother of a bunch ... 5-6 kids, I really don't remember the number, that needed some help. The typical story we here from time to time on the news.

Somehow?? Her address / location was disclosed. Somebody ??? sent her a list of entry level jobs ... for which she could apply. I admit I busted out laughing.

I was surprised the news station, reported the second part. Of course it was in the tone , wasn't that cruel, etc.
 
fuzzybuddy said:
About the woman, 'working two jobs'. If she's working two jobs, why can't she pay the rent? If she can't, then she can't afford to live there. Her landlord does not have to start his own welfare agency. BTW, I assume she is also getting child support. I know it's getting almost impossible to get decent affordable housing in some cities- it may not even exist, but you can't place that burden on the backs of landlords to fix the situation.
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She's doing the best she can with low paying jobs. Don't be so critical unless you're walking in her shoes.
 
OK...here's another story for all you "compassionate" people.

There's a 92 year old WWII veteran in Phoenix that's been living in his apartment for over 20 years. Several years ago, he put a bench out front on his lawn to sit and talk to people, etc.

About 6 months ago, he got a letter from the owner that said he has to remove the bench or leave.

Here ya go. You want to stick up for the landlord on this one, too and kick the shit out of this poor 92 year old.

You people are disgusting.
 
Colleen said:
WOW! I think you're missing the point of my post. She wasn't just sitting around collecting her $300/week for doing nothing. She works 2 jobs that don't pay anything just to buy groceries for her and her son. The stimulus checks went to her rent but it wasn't enough.

My point was....there's funds for these people but our governor and his cronies won't release it. They're sitting on it like TX and even processing applications for people that have done all they should from way back in March. She's not the derelict one...our government is.

And....she is getting out of Phoenix as soon as her son graduates this coming year...if not sooner. She said she's going back to MN.
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OK, I see your point but ......... back to the basics ........ if she can't pay her rent ? Out she goes ....... period.

As someone already noted .... the landlords are not in the business of starting their own welfare program.

Maybe look for a place that is section eight.

But if I owned the dwelling, she is going to be evicted.
 
Colleen said:
OK...here's another story for all you "compassionate" people.

There's a 92 year old WWII veteran in Phoenix that's been living in his apartment for over 20 years. Several years ago, he put a bench out front on his lawn to sit and talk to people, etc.

About 6 months ago, he got a letter from the owner that said he has to remove the bench or leave.

Here ya go. You want to stick up for the landlord on this one, too and kick the shit out of this poor 92 year old.

You people are disgusting.
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That landlord is a butthead, I would buy the bench for him. And speaking only for this disgusting person, if I owned the dwelling, and the vet was having difficulty paying the rent ... I would work something out for him.

Or, if he was a combat vet, I might just write it off.

I'll give a little ....... he gave allot.
 
Colleen said:
OK...here's another story for all you "compassionate" people.

There's a 92 year old WWII veteran in Phoenix that's been living in his apartment for over 20 years. Several years ago, he put a bench out front on his lawn to sit and talk to people, etc.

About 6 months ago, he got a letter from the owner that said he has to remove the bench or leave.

Here ya go. You want to stick up for the landlord on this one, too and kick the shit out of this poor 92 year old.

You people are disgusting.
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Well, in all honesty I’ve owed my mother a beat down for decades and, yes, I should have done it years ago. But now she is 96 years old 🤦🏻‍♀️, and still a horrid person. Frankly in a fight, she would win since she has beat down experience.

it the rules say the bench goes, then the bench goes. Has nothing to do with the age of the tenant, the rules are the rules.
 
rgp said:
;)Back atcha' ............ Isn't that what actually works best ? Differing thoughts I mean ..... it can make the other person think .... as such maybe change their opinion just a tad. And perhaps in the end we can all create a more peaceful solution ???
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Yes, of course. Except the changing opinion part 😂
 

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