Flat Earth Society Lives. Pffftt, some think the Earth Is 2015 years old

rt3 said:
Regrettably --- Biology isn't a science.
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There is only one TRUE science and that is mathematics (excluding statistics, which should really be classified as a 'black' art), all the others suffer from quantum indeterminacy to a lesser or greater extent and are therefore imprecise.
 

Is somebody trying to say that Red Dwarf isn't a documentary? But..... they are out there now in space aren't they?[it's cold in space, and there's no kind of atmosphere....] could we start a campaign to get the crew back to Earth?
 
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Agree only recent scientific break through has been chaos and bifurcation (non-linear stuff from UK and Russian). Everything else was an accident.
 

oakapple said:
Is somebody trying to say that Red Dwarf isn't a documentary? But..... they are out there now in space aren't they?[it's cold in space, and there's no kind of atmosphere....] could we start a campaign to get the crew back to Earth?
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They use a time machine and its on the millionth iteration.
 
oakapple said:
Ha! Easy for YOU to say that.
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It's not so easy if you say it in Icelandic ...

Sammála aðeins nýlega vísindalega brjótast í gegnum hefur verið glundroða og bifurcation (ólínuleg efni frá Bretlandi og rússnesku). Allt annað var slys.
 
Got Matlab firedup, reconstructed the fly picture, after using several non real math probabile outcomes got duplication, statisfing the primary need for "other lab verification" and you are correct no random number generator.
I'm taking the alternate universe alibi.
 
oakapple said:
Well, that explains it then!:)
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Oh no it doesn't, 'causality' specifically rules out time travel as a possibility, unless the multiple timeline conjecture holds true.

Unless, of course ...

(I've been looking for somewhere to post this load of tosh wot I writ and this is as good a place as any ... )

THE ADVENTURES OF AN AMATEUR TIME TRAVELLER


CHAPTER ONE ... "DON'T MESS WITH STUFF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND"


Imagine my surprise when I entered this police call box. It seemed quite a lot bigger than it appeared from the outside, not having a tape measure on me I couldn't verify this. I suspect some sort of extension into a higher dimension is the cause, but I could be wrong. After examining the somewhat Victorian looking equipment in there, I have come to the conclusion that it's someone's half-arsed attempt at a device for translocation into four (or possibly more) dimensions. It all seems a bit theatrical, like something from a British early sixties low budget SciFi series. Lots of levers and analogue dials with lights flashing all over the place and (for heaven's sake) black and white display screens, I ask you!! ... very amateurish to my mind.

Anyway, in the best traditions of the genre, I just happened to have my laptop with me and after much experimenting with what I assumed was the computer core, I managed to interface with the CPU and write a routine to access some of the functions of this device. Windows 7 gives me a MUCH better feel for what's going on, a custom GUI makes it all much easier to understand and, hopefully, control. What we appear to have here is a control system based on a Tesseract or Hypercube, in that each of the axes corresponds to a direction in space/time. Mouse controlled slider bars (my innovation) are much easier to use than the antiquated knobs and levers it replaces. You'd need to have four hands to control it using those.


As a short test to calibrate the controls I moved the slider the minimum possible distance in each of the four axes in a positive and negative direction.


Results below ... I think the settings are a tad on the coarse side ...


Time axis, negative setting ... just as well T-Rex is too big to get in!!


Time axis, positive setting ... who would have thought it!


A combination of three moderate but random settings on the three spacial axes seemed to take me beyond the limits of the known universe, that's according to the Doppler red-shift Hubble effect 'App' on my iPhone (I just KNEW I'd find a use for that eventually).


Some recalibration required, I think ...


I now have to sit down and think about the potential ramifications of this time travel thing ... I THINK I know what's what but if I come back from the past and the whole human race has changed into intelligent saurids then I apologise in advance, or retrospectively, or whatever ... that's another thing, I'll have to invent a whole new grammar to cope with time travel ... catch you later (or earlier) ...


NOTE TO SELF ... FIND THE LOO!!

To be continued/Yet to be started ...
 
Once upon a time there was no time. Time is a human construct. If time travel becomes possible everyone will be doing it, we would be on the umpteen rerun already - with so many possibilities it makes the current ones dealing with time pretty simple.
the mouse hook up on graphically user interfaces is a great improvement, hopefully the new hand direction stuff will be even better
 
rt3 said:
If time travel becomes possible everyone will be doing it, we would be on the umpteen rerun already - with so many possibilities it makes the current ones dealing with time pretty simple.
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Time travel to the future is certainly possible, in fact we are doing it right now, at the rate of 60 seconds per minute. We can even speed up the process by utilising the effect of relativistic time dilation according to the formula developed by Lorentz and Fitzgerald. Travel to the past though, that's a whole different matter. Beware the grandfather paradox.
 
The relatively thing kills itself. Given any unit of time, everything is "moving" thus there is no "movement" ony a change in some arbitrary co-ordinate system.
 
Rob, are you visiting us from another reality ? I ask because although you print the opening two pages of your story, in fact I read the whole book 30 years ago ! Enjoyed it in fact, although so many implausible gadgets [laptops,iPhones etc]got a tad annoying.Slider bars controlled by mice? Anyway, got this book from the library again today to refresh my memory, it's called 'Doctor What And The Lizard Men' and is a cracking read !
 
Hi Oakapple, that's very odd as I've never read that book, unless I did and forgot it. Anyway, here's Chapter 2. I'd be interested to see how it compares ...

THE ADVENTURES OF AN AMATEUR TIME TRAVELLER


CHAPTER TWO ... "REVELATIONS"


I think I've sussed out how this thing works now, it's all rather simple really. This box is not only bigger on the inside than out ... it's INFINITELY bigger!! I was poking around in the depths and found a large room with what looked like a holographic representation of a whole series of universes in it, stretching as far as I can see in both directions. It's NOT a representation, it's the actual timeline of the whole universe from the Big Bang to the Heat Death. This device doesn't go anywhere, the universe moves around in four dimensions inside it. I reckon if you had a powerful enough telescope you could look into that room and focus in on the Earth and you'd find a blue box on it. In that box would be a room with the universe in it and if you had a powerful enough telescope you could ...


I'm not going there, it's mind boggling enough as it is.


That bloke that left the door open was VERY irresponsible in my opinion, supposing some kid got in and found that room. Just imagine if he did what ALL kids do, and poked last week's universe with a stick. It doesn't bear thinking about ...
 
But....... that is exactly the same as the opening page in chapter 2 in my book; it's getting spooky now! You must return to your own dimension now Rob, or the fabric of reality will be torn and.......
 
Any logic arguements with anthromorphic cartoon characters and I'm taking away the scissors.
 
Rob said:
It's not so easy if you say it in Icelandic ...

Sammála aðeins nýlega vísindalega brjótast í gegnum hefur verið glundroða og bifurcation (ólínuleg efni frá Bretlandi og rússnesku). Allt annað var slys.
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þetta er nokkuð gott sýnishorn af obsfucation afar

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Rob said:
It's not so easy if you say it in Icelandic ...

Sammála aðeins nýlega vísindalega brjótast í gegnum hefur verið glundroða og bifurcation (ólínuleg efni frá Bretlandi og rússnesku). Allt annað var slys.
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þetta er nokkuð gott sýnishorn af obsfucation afar


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Edit: oops , ég staða slys tvisvar
 

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