What are unvaccinated people thinking?

Sassycakes said:
I got vaccinated after my Nephew got the covid in November. He has been in the hospital since getting it. He has had 2 lung transplants and has been on and off ventilators. Because of that my husband and I got vaccinated.
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He's still in the hospital after 9 months? My thoughts and prayers to you all. That's such a challenge. I hope his spirits are ok?
 

win231 said:
You have it a bit backwards. It is not the unvaccinated who are rude; it's the vaccinated who are rude & always trying to convince others to do as they do. That comes from their own shaky confidence in the vaccine as well as their need to feel superior.
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I don't know if they want to feel superior or not. Maybe somewhere deep down inside, they ARE afraid of what will happen to them or their offspring years from now because we don't know that since the vaccine was rushed and everyone bullied to take it.

In my family, no one wanted the vaccine. The ones who have consented took it because, 1) they would have been fired if they refused and they need the income.

2) They were scared into it by the talk of vaccine passports.

That's it. I wish people would come together on this issue.
 
mellowyellow said:
A Sydney woman in her 30s died from the virus yesterday and she didn’t have any pre-existing health issues.
I’m glad I’ve had at least one AZ shot and can’t wait for the next one. Things are going from bad to worse here in NSW.
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They just mentioned the woman you referred to on the nightly news .
@mellowyellow

EDITED TO remove my statement she was a doctor as reported on the nightly news .
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Hubby and myself have had both our AZ with no issues
 
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mellowyellow said:
A Sydney woman in her 30s died from the virus yesterday and she didn’t have any pre-existing health issues.
I’m glad I’ve had at least one AZ shot and can’t wait for the next one. Things are going from bad to worse here in NSW.
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I read somewhere (Reuters, I think) that there were 915 "covid-related" deaths in Australia out of a population of 25.36 million. That would be about 0.004% or 4 thousandths of one percent. That seems pretty small and I wondered what pre-covid flu deaths stats were like and I found this in ASPI:

It’s hard to come by data on the number of virus-related deaths in Australia pre-Covid, other than those related to influenza and pneumonia. In 2010 there were 2,373 deaths, in 2014, 2,879 deaths and in 2019, 4,124 deaths.​
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What am I missing here? It seems like earlier years were far worse. Were there lockdowns and masking in prior years? If not, why all the drama this time?
 
The fast spreading virus supposedly traveled from China to Seattle within days, if not hours. Then it was immediately found in all other countries, which means it was already everywhere within weeks and everyone in the world was already exposed to it. 🙄

Now, based on that logic, and since 99.9% of the billions of people in the world have not been affected in the least, unless they were "vaccinated" with well known toxic poisons, then anyone, absolutely anyone who died - did not die from a virus but from other causes.

False press reports coming from the big pharma-petroleum controlled media minions are not evidence of any actual causes of death.

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JonDouglas said:
I read somewhere (Reuters, I think) that there were 915 "covid-related" deaths in Australia out of a population of 25.36 million. That would be about 0.004% or 4 thousandths of one percent. That seems pretty small and I wondered what pre-covid flu deaths stats were like and I found this in ASPI:

It’s hard to come by data on the number of virus-related deaths in Australia pre-Covid, other than those related to influenza and pneumonia. In 2010 there were 2,373 deaths, in 2014, 2,879 deaths and in 2019, 4,124 deaths.​
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What am I missing here? It seems like earlier years were far worse. Were there lockdowns and masking in prior years? If not, why all the drama this time?
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I think the answer to your question can be found in one of my favorite quotes from HL Mencken:

“The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it.”​


― H.L. Mencken, Minority Report
 
Interesting that those individuals who like to call others "Selfish" & "Uneducated" because they choose not to get vaccinated, have nothing to say about my mentioning Tuberculosis & "Getting tested before leaving their house so they don't infect others."
Yoooohoooo - Don M, Chet, Sunny..........
 
win231 said:
Interesting that those individuals who like to call others "Selfish" & "Uneducated" because they choose not to get vaccinated, have nothing to say about my mentioning Tuberculosis & "Getting tested before leaving their house so they don't infect others."
Yoooohoooo - Don M, Chet, Sunny..........
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I didn't reply to your post, because it is SO obvious that you and others, like this John Cycling, are incapable of absorbing the overwhelming amount of evidence surrounding this virus. So, if it satisfies your limited ability to accept the facts, you can continue to live in your world, and I will continue to ignore your nonsense. In addition, you may be the First person on this forum that I add to the Ignore list.
 
win231 said:
That ridiculous figure is part of the inflation & exaggeration to try to scare everyone into getting the vaccine without any thought.
And the same guilt ploy has been used in the past to sell flu shots - "If you don't get a flu shot, you're making other people sick." It works - for the gullible.
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That figure is true. Only the conspiracy ducks don't believe it as they lay dying in crowded hospitals unable to accept non-Covid patients. Hospitals should stop accepting the "disbelievers."
 
Kadee46 said:
They just mentioned the woman you referred to on the nightly news ,she was a doctor. @mellowyellow

Hubby and myself have had both our AZ with no issues
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Hubby had his second AZ last Wednesday and I will have mine next Wednesday. I am grateful for the opportunity. If I come down with Covid my husband will not be able to survive by himself. It will be a nursing home for him.

Of course I could die any day from a stroke or heart attack so why worry about Covid ? Answer - heart attacks and strokes are not contagious and also I am taking medications to lower the risk of cardovascular disease. In my thinking vaccination is not a magic bullet but it does lower the risks associated with this novel disease.
 
We had the non-believers back in the 50's also. We had our myths, legends and mis-information not unlike today. But, since I contracted polio in 1954 and have suffered all my life with it's horrendous side effects, let me add my support of the ones who had the good sense to get vaccinated. I made sure my children had their vaccines thoughout their early years, I never wanted to tell them 'I'm sorry, I didn't believe in them'.
 
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Don M. said:
I didn't reply to your post, because it is SO obvious that you and others, like this John Cycling, are incapable of absorbing the overwhelming amount of evidence surrounding this virus. So, if it satisfies your limited ability to accept the facts, you can continue to live in your world, and I will continue to ignore your nonsense. In addition, you may be the First person on this forum that I add to the Ignore list.
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Hmmmmm, what's missing from your post?
Oh yeah......no mention of Tuberculosis. Perhaps you missed it, so I'll ask you again: Do you have a TB test before you leave your house & risk infecting others? To show you care? Why not?
Ya know, often times what you don't say is so loud, it drowns out what you do say.

You aren't ignoring me. If you were, you wouldn't have seen my post.
Just admit it. I'm like a good book you can't put down. :ROFLMAO:
 
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ManjaroKDE said:
We had the non-believers back in the 50's also. We had our myths, legends and mis-information not unlike today. But, since I contracted polio in 1954 and have suffered all my life with it's horrendous side effects, let me add my support of the ones who had the good sense to get vaccinated. I made sure my children had their vaccines thoughout their early years, I never wanted to tell them 'I'm sorry, I didn't believe in them'.
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Some vaccines are useful. Some are not.
Some drugs are useful. Some have destroyed countless lives.
 
I question the news claiming that Covid caused the deaths of everyone who were infected with it, and that it caused their deaths. Perhaps many of them who did die died because it overtook some some serious internal illness of theirs?
 
Elsie said:
I question the news claiming that Covid caused the deaths of everyone who were infected with it, and that it caused their deaths. Perhaps many of them who did die died because it overtook some some serious internal illness of theirs?
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I think it's the same as people who die from getting the flu. They may have had weak immune systems to begin with, perhaps they were sickly or older and their lungs weren't in great condition any more. But from what I understand, most who died from the flu, died because it developed into pneumonia, and that is what ended up actually killing them. However, if those victims never were infected by influenza, they would like still be alive today.

I imagine that some who got COVID-19 may have died due to the effects it had on their body, and if they didn't get the coronavirus infection, they would still be alive today. So, directly or indirectly, COVID-19 was responsible for their dying.
 
SeaBreeze said:
I'm sorry to hear about your nephew, that is horrible. I hope he pulls through. :( My sister's huband's brother died in the hospital from COVID-19, he never made it to the ventilator. But my husband and I got our vaccinations before he died, it just made sense to us, we got them once they were readily available in our area. The benefits outweigh the risks, if I do contract the coronavirus, at least with the vaccine I shouldn't be hospitalized or dead from it.
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On our early news this morning, they are saying how many people that have had one or both shots go to the hospital then end up dying from the Vaccine, so the corner says. It can be from 2 weeks to 8 months.
 
Tom 86 said:
On our early news this morning, they are saying how many people that have had one or both shots go to the hospital then end up dying from the Vaccine, so the corner says. It can be from 2 weeks to 8 months.
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What is your source? Who is saying that, and how many people do they claim died from the vaccine? Keep in mind, there are a lot of scare tactics and disinformation spreading that is simply false. These rumors spread on social media and "news" sources which lack honesty and integrity.

Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More than 339 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through July 19, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 6,207 reports of death (0.0018%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-
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https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html
 
ManjaroKDE said:
We had the non-believers back in the 50's also. We had our myths, legends and mis-information not unlike today. But, since I contracted polio in 1954 and have suffered all my life with it's horrendous side effects, let me add my support of the ones who had the good sense to get vaccinated. I made sure my children had their vaccines thoughout their early years, I never wanted to tell them 'I'm sorry, I didn't believe in them'.
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Well said, thank you. I'm sad to hear that you have suffered with Polio for your entire life....hugs. :(
 
OscarW said:
That‘s quite an assertion. Any objective evidence to support it?

I clearly labeled my post as my opinion.
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Your opinion isn't supported by facts.

Here’s the Science Behind How Face Masks Prevent Coronavirus
https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/4...s-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent

Science Brief: Community Use of Cloth Masks to Control the Spread of SARS-CoV-2
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/masking-science-sars-cov2.html

There are plenty more sources out there.
 

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