Most illegal migrants, 77%, try to evade capture and don’t want asylum

Aren't we in the western Hemisphere? I believe we are.

And no, undocumented immigrants are not being handed money, insurance, food, or housing or anything else at taxpayer expense.

Check your facts.
Northern and Western Hemispheres. I know that California is giving money to illegals. Thus was reported on CNBC not long ago. I don’t know if other states or the government is also.

What irks me is that they are here illegally. I would welcome any alien coming in if they came legally. Somehow they are being taken care of. When we start talking about 2 million illegals, there is no doubt that charities cannot be handling all of this. I would expect the American taxpayer is shouldering most of the costs. It’s a damn shame that we are not at least monitoring where these people are coming from, who they are, testing them for various diseases and vaccinating each one. The government wants all Americans to be vaccinated, yet they allow the illegals to walk about without being vaccinated.

There are reports that some are coming from as far away as Africa and the Middle East.
 

Such a contentious issue with no solution in sight, surely we can't welcome the world into our countries, yet they keep coming for a better life.
 
Such a contentious issue with no solution in sight, surely we can't welcome the world into our countries, yet they keep coming for a better life.
Greed rules human behavior.
What, share what we have...come, come now...
(Study American Foreign Aid over the decades, it is either stuff we do not want, no longer need.
Arms being the exception...)
 

I have a friend that lives in Texas. He said the men/teenagers coming across the border are all killers or dope dealers. He said 80% of the men & women in Texas now have to carry a weapon or they will get carjacked, house broken into. He's been almost carjacked twice he's told me.

That is until he pulls out his 45 cal. long gun. Then they scram when they see that.
My daughter lives in El Paso. Her opinion differs. They are not all killers or dope dealers. 😂
 
Northern and Western Hemispheres. I know that California is giving money to illegals. Thus was reported on CNBC not long ago. I don’t know if other states or the government is also.

What irks me is that they are here illegally. I would welcome any alien coming in if they came legally. Somehow they are being taken care of. When we start talking about 2 million illegals, there is no doubt that charities cannot be handling all of this. I would expect the American taxpayer is shouldering most of the costs. It’s a damn shame that we are not at least monitoring where these people are coming from, who they are, testing them for various diseases and vaccinating each one. The government wants all Americans to be vaccinated, yet they allow the illegals to walk about without being vaccinated.

There are reports that some are coming from as far away as Africa and the Middle East.

As I understand it, California does give some assistance to undocumented aliens, but that's a state, not a federal, program.
 
My daughter lives in El Paso. Her opinion differs. They are not all killers or dope dealers. 😂

I live in New Mexico and my opinion differs also. Most of them are either farm workers or kitchen workers, etc., and the great majority of them are just trying to keep food on their plates despite being taken advantage of by unscrupulous employers who pay them off the books and under minimum wage.
 
Aren't we in the western Hemisphere? I believe we are.

And no, undocumented immigrants are not being handed money, insurance, food, or housing or anything else at taxpayer expense.

Check your facts.
This is what happens when we are thinking of another country and write the wrong thing. I had just made a comment on the post about China and I guess that my brain was still thinking about that continent. Sorry for the confusion.
 
Illegal immigrants are certainly being given housing given benefits here in the UK...that for certain.

It would be better for many indigenous folks here to get in a raft in France or the back of a truck coming from Eastern Europe or Asia .., with some Romanian /Russian, Polish/Albanian forged papers and arrive on our shores.. where they will be looked after , given housing, benefits and free medical care despite never paying single penny tax in this country ( and no criminal checks) .. ...than having been born here and worked on minimum wage desperately waiting for government (council) housing ( little chance of that ).. or paying astronomically high private rents..to which many cannot afford...much less afford mortgages..( some of these young adults have been waiting 15 years for hosing.. and still living with parents in their 30's and 40's )

Over 10k migrants have arrived here in the last 6 months.. and that's only the ones we know about... there's at least by the govt own admission probably 10 times that amount here that we don't know about...

Can't say anymore due to the political rule on the forum.. but just today.. look at this...


British jihadi bride who lost an arm in an air strike is living in a £500,000 council house and has been fitted with a prosthetic limb, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.

Samia Hussein was injured when coalition forces launched an attack on a weapons store next to her home in the Syrian city of Raqqa, which was under the control of Islamic State.

The 27-year-old, who joined the terror group in 2015, was arrested when she arrived back in Britain in February 2020.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...tack-given-new-arm-500-000-council-house.html
 
IMO all most of them want is a chance at a better life for themselves and their families.
I believe you are absolutely right. I have known and worked with a few illegals and this describes all of them perfectly.

When I was in college I worked summers for the Forest Service in Wyoming. One of my jobs was inspecting tree planting contractors, and even back then many of the crews were illegals. It was very hard dirty work, not a lot of legals wanted to do it. I spoke a little Spanish, very little, but more than the other Forest Service employees so I got assigned to the Spanish speaking crews. In my experience, on average, they were harder and more reliable workers than the legal crews, so easier to work with. I felt safer amongst them than amongst the white legal crews, the ones who looked more like me. As I got to know them I liked most and even helped them evade immigration in one incident. I now have mixed feelings about what I did, but I do think I have a better understanding of who the illegals are.

The reasons we need to control our migration should not be tied to the "goodness" or "badness" of the people involved. I of course do not condone allowing criminals into the country, but other than entering illegally in my experience most illegal immigrants are good people. I do however believe that we need to control our population growth and who we let in. Some good people may not get in, we can't let all the world's good people into the US.

The asylum seeker thing is a real problem. Too many people can legitimately justify oppression and danger in their home countries. However opening our gates to these people creates a couple of problems, for one it limits our ability to control migration. However at least as importantly it creates a drain on the good people in the countries they come from, perhaps aggravating conditions at home. If we had not let so many good Cubans in I suspect Castro and the communists would not have been so successful in holding on to power. Iran is another example, if we had not let so many Persians in I believe Iran would be a better country today. I have known a lot of Cubans and Persians, all good people, some of the best and brightest I have known. They have been good for the US and good for our economy, however they might have been better for their home countries... Anyway right now the only solution I can offer is that I believe we need to look very hard at what we are doing.

In the end I believe we have to regulate immigration to our benefit, not to the benefit of others. I know that sounds hard, but the world has too many people who want in, can make good cases for getting in, and are good people for us to take. It is just reality and it will get worse so long as our economy and system hold up and world population grows and gets more mobile. It is something we need to deal with rationally, the sooner the better.
 
I'd rather the taxes I pay are used for what Cher tweeted.

HUD Makes Illegal Aliens Feel at Home With Housing Vouchers


“We are doing everything we can possibly to take any living person in this nation off the streets. That’s kind of our posture,” HUD Secretary Marcia Fudge said in announcing $5 billion in emergency housing vouchers.

But by waiving the legal residency requirement for obtaining a voucher, HUD is lengthening the already-long odds on Americans in need. Vouchers were available to just 20 percent of eligible applicants before Fudge rolled out her taxpayer-funded welcome mat for illegal aliens.

More than 453,000 migrants, many of them in family units, illegally entered the United States at the southern border from February through April, according to Southwest Land Border Encounters figures. U.S. Border Patrol conservatively expects the number to exceed 1 million by year’s end.

In 2020, HUD estimated that 580,000 Americans, including some 52,000 veterans, were homeless. The situation, which has not improved, is so dire in big cities that entertainer Cher tweeted: “I understand helping struggling immigrants, but my city (Los Angeles) isn’t taking care of its own.”

https://www.immigrationreform.com/2...illegal-aliens-housing-immigrationreform-com/
 
OMG!!! People, who enter the US illegally, DON"T WANT to be captured and deported. That's news to me. One thing about illegal immigration in the Southwestern US is they get jobs. So, if you took away the incentive to get employment in the US, that might stem the flow of illegal workers. Since they keep coming over the border, they seem to know that some Americans are happy to hire them. It does seem odd that the people, who are screaming about "illegals" , may be the ones hiring them. Why is it that we want to prosecute an illegal to the fullest extent of the law, but we can't "burden" employers ( the poor things) with ensuring they are hiring documented workers.
 


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