OK, Who Decides What Is or Isn't A Reputable Site for Covid Information.

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SmoothSeas said:
this Covid virus, just like all other extant organisms ... needs a host. Well, guess what, folks? We .. are the hosts.
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Through natural evolution, or by design?
That's the debate I'm most interested in.

@JonDouglas - Finding a truly reliable source for accurate covid information is exhausting. Thanks for the links, there are a slew of them there that I don't have on my list. For the past year, my covid guidelines have been based on personal experience. Therefore, I move about freely, and only wear a mask if a sign says "required." I kiss my wife and grandchildren, cuddle with my former foster son, and visit my friends, who get a hug if they invite one. And, as always, I visit the homeless camps once or twice a month to offer necessities, where I get hugs and face-to-face conversation, and there is no social distancing.

Should I make a graph? :LOL:
 

JonDouglas said:
Sorry, this isn't the first covid scientists have dealt with, Here's a little history, given that getting fasts out of China is problematic:

Scientists first identified a human coronavirus in 1965. It caused a common cold. Later that decade, researchers found a group of similar human and animal viruses and named them after their crown-like appearance.​
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Seven coronaviruses can infect humans. The one that causes SARS emerged in southern China in 2002 and quickly spread to 28 other countries. More than 8,000 people were infected by July 2003, and 774 died. A small outbreak in 2004 involved only four more cases. This coronavirus causes fever, headache, and respiratory problems such as cough and shortness of breath.​
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Your facts are correct. What you don't mention is that each and every new corona-virus is slightly (or not slightly) different than its predecessor. Even COVID19 has now multiple variants, some more dangerous than others. The fact is that scientists haven't faced THIS type of corona-virus before. (Plus... don't forget that there is still no cure for the 1965 common cold.)
 
Nathan said:
Here you go once again with the "victim" thing. I suppose you're going to call me a troll too? With you preoccupation to tar & feather Fauci, and attempted discrediting of the CDC or any other knowledgeable source I'm suprised you haven't reached out and contacted them to discuss your misgivings...I'm sure they would love to hear from you.
You got your vaccine, why beat a dead horse?
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Funny think is, I don't feel like a victim and I've no intention of calling you a troll. The words "victim" and "troll" come out of your brain, not mine. As for reaching out to the CDC, LOL, you must be either joking or failing to understand who the big money donors and political influences are that they listen to. Finally, I had no idea that vaccine consequences (i.e., immunization rates, risks, adverse reactions, immunity factors, etc.) were a "dead horse." You could have fooled me.
 

CAKCy said:
Your facts are correct. What you don't mention is that each and every new corona-virus is slightly (or not slightly) different than its predecessor. Even COVID19 has now multiple variants, some more dangerous than others. The fact is that scientists haven't faced THIS type of corona-virus before. (Plus... don't forget that there is still no cure for the 1965 common cold.)
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Perhaps I mistakenly assumed that everyone knew flu viruses spawned new variants for which a specific vaccine wasn't necessarily efficient. They've been doing that for years. That a variant is "new" is not a new phenomenon.
 
Murrmurr said:
Through natural evolution, or by design?
That's the debate I'm most interested in.

@JonDouglas - Finding a truly reliable source for accurate covid information is exhausting. Thanks for the links, there are a slew of them there that I don't have on my list. For the past year, my covid guidelines have been based on personal experience. Therefore, I move about freely, and only wear a mask if a sign says "required." I kiss my wife and grandchildren, cuddle with my former foster son, and visit my friends, who get a hug if they invite one. And, as always, I visit the homeless camps once or twice a month to offer necessities, where I get hugs and face-to-face conversation, and there is no social distancing.

Should I make a graph? :LOL:
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You are a very decent person, my friend, but please don't risk it so much. It would be very bad if you got sick and I know it would hurt you more if you transmitted it to somebody else. A mask is not the end of the world....
 
JonDouglas said:
Nathan, when you're in a hole, stop digging.
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Lol, that's an odd response, perhaps it worked for you in the past in some other situation.

You can go back to your bashing the Covid authorities thing, it seems to give you pleasure, whereas meeting with those that may disagree with your viewpoint only makes your posts appear agitated & defensive.
 
Murrmurr said:
Through natural evolution, or by design?
That's the debate I'm most interested in.
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My best guess would be, by Mother Nature's design, via natural selection.

Biology is biology - it's taken Mother eons to prefect herself - and she's still hard at.


 
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SmoothSeas said:
My best guess would be, by Mother Nature's design, via natural selection.

Biology is biology - it's taken Mother eons to prefect herself - and she's still hard at.
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I disagree. I believe C-19 was designed to be hosted by humans. After countless eons, for a virus designed to live happily and innocuously in bats to suddenly become compatible to life within human tissue is a giant evolutionary leap, and an unnecessary one.
 
CAKCy said:
You are a very decent person, my friend, but please don't risk it so much. It would be very bad if you got sick and I know it would hurt you more if you transmitted it to somebody else. A mask is not the end of the world....
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True, a mask is not the end of the world. It's also not very effective protection against the covid virus, but I wear one if I'm asked to. No big deal.
 
Murrmurr said:
True, a mask is not the end of the world. It's also not very effective protection against the covid virus, but I wear one if I'm asked to. No big deal.
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But it's not the "if you are asked to"... It's the "if you see the reasoning behind it". The mask not being very effective against the virus for YOU is true. But it's not true for your environment. Because it stops your sneezing and coughing from spreading around.
 
Murrmurr said:
I disagree. I believe C-19 was designed to be hosted by humans. After countless eons, for a virus designed to live happily and innocuously in bats to suddenly become compatible to life within human tissue is a giant evolutionary leap, and an unnecessary one.
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Designed for possible biological warfare, maybe?

Defiantly possible - but probable? Given the state of today's technology, starting with Watson & Crick, possible, yes. But then you need the mad scientist, who, possess the requisite knowledge, and has his own personal agenda for unleashing Covid on this planet...

Or, maybe some petty despot recruits this mad scientist and...

Create your own ending in 1k words or less
 
SmoothSeas said:
Designed for possible biological warfare, maybe?

Defiantly possible - but probable? Given the state of today's technology, starting with Watson & Crick, possible, yes. But then you need the mad scientist, who, possess the requisite knowledge, and has his own personal agenda for unleashing Covid on this planet...

Or, maybe some petty despot recruits this mad scientist and...

Create your own ending in 1k words or less
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Vietnam - Agent Orange....
 
Liberty said:
Here is the Texas Med Center Covid Case info for Harris County - we moved into code "Red"Alert recently:

https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-updates/total-tmc-covid-19-positive-patients-in-hospital/
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Noting that's just one county, are those the number of beds occupied by covid patients or just cases reported by the hospital? I ask because the original claim was that beds were full up with covid patients. I have also been told that some percentage of people who used to "tough it out" when they had the flu are now flocking to hospitals and their affiliate centers because they are more frightened these days. I've no idea of the extent or truth of that.
 
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JonDouglas said:
Noting that's just one county, are those the number of beds occupied by covid patients or just cases reported by the hospital? I ask because the original claim was that beds were full up with covid patients.
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We are the third largest county in America - last time I looked anyway. Not "just one country" for sure, guy. One "big and populated county"...lol.
 
fmdog44 said:
Fauci and none of the liars that oppose him in the name of protecting their political party.
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I'm sorry to say this but as an outsider... both political parties play the same game, get paid by the same donors, are interested in power more than people exactly the same way.

It's time that people understand that politicians are nothing more than paid employees of the corporations.
A simple proof:
There have been times when the Presidency, the Senate and the House were either Republican or Democrat. Have you seen anything radical happening, from either side, that would benefit the people and NOT the corporations?

The Republican "trickle down economy" benefits the corporations.
The Democrat "trickle up economy" still benefits the corporations.

(And to make it clear... I'm not talking only about the US. I'm talking about my country and every country in the world. Unfortunately idealism is just an illusion. And I had to become a senior to realize that....)

I know this is politics and we are not supposed to say anything. But it's not in favor of anyone so I hope @Matrix will allow this. Otherwise he can remove it...
 
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