What are the reasons some do not wear masks or will not be vaccinated?

Serenity4321

Serenity4321

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I really do not get it..seems there are many, I am seeing some here in Florida, who do not think they should wear a mask or be vaccinated. I especially do not understand the thinking that it is 'one's right' to decide whether they will or will not wear a mask...I certainly do not find them comfortable but a necessary evil..jk on the evil...I can almost understand how some have become frightened by the side effects discussions regarding the vaccine...Seems to me if we are going to get control of this virus we need more cooperation
 

For medical reason's I'm not vaccinated. I do wear a mask. I do believe its a personal choice to be vaccinated.

"Seems to me if we are going to get control of this virus we need more cooperation"

Seems to me it was nonsense for the CDC to assume that vaccinated people could stop wearing masks 2 weeks after second shot. The studies on the trial of the vaccines didn't include enough time to make certain that vaccinated persons could have breakthrough cases that spread the virus.

Also they assumed that the vaccines probably would protect future variant's obviously since they had dropped the wear a mask recommendation. Too much assuming by the CDC and the "experts".
 
Serenity4321 said:
What are the reasons some do not wear masks or will not be vaccinated?
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The #1 reason for me is doing my own research and having the intelligence to not do unhealthy and life destroying things.
Wearing a mask significantly reduces the oxygen supply to the body and blocks the elimination of waste products from the lungs.
Low level of oxygen <-- in adult from wearing a mask in just a few seconds.
High levels of CO2 <-- in 11 year old child from wearing different masks in just a few seconds.

Being injected with well known poisons is quite likely to be devastating to one's quality of life and life span.
Ryan Cole, M.D. - "Covid-19 Vaccines and Autopsy" <--
Numerous reports of Covid-19 vaccination deaths and failures. <--
Scientific Truth - as opposed to vaccination controlled media fear mongering propaganda.

Plus the statement on virus isolation, <--
a look at Koch's Postulates <-- in regards to viruses;
and a final refutation <-- of the whole virus theory house of cards.
 

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Becky1951 said:
For medical reason's I'm not vaccinated. I do wear a mask. I do believe its a personal choice to be vaccinated.

"Seems to me if we are going to get control of this virus we need more cooperation"

Seems to me it was nonsense for the CDC to assume that vaccinated people could stop wearing masks 2 weeks after second shot. The studies on the trial of the vaccines didn't include enough time to make certain that vaccinated persons could have breakthrough cases that spread the virus.

Also they assumed that the vaccines probably would protect future variant's obviously since they had dropped the wear a mask recommendation. Too much assuming by the CDC and the "experts".
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Same here. I'll wear a mask when required. Not because I believe it protects, but because I won't make people nervous.
I will not get vaccinated. Like all health decisions, that's MY choice & no one else's. Anyone who thinks they have the right to force me to get a vaccine, take a drug, or have a medical procedure knows what they can kiss.
I'll trust some doctors & some dentists, but I know better than to blindly trust all of them; especially where money is concerned.
Four years ago, a dentist cost me 3 days in Intensive Care & 5 more days hospitalized due to Sepsis. And I could have died.
 
Three reasons I'm not getting Vaccinated:
  1. Leukemia ~ White blood cell count is through the roof. Red blood cell count is low.
  2. Agammaglobulinemia ~ My antibodies are low and my body makes very few. Vaccine is useless to me since it is based on antibodies.
  3. Unknown Long Term Side Effects on this new type vaccine for COVID. This type of vaccine has been used to treat cancer patients since the 1990's BUT the cancer vaccine is not a "One Size Fits All" vaccine like the COVID vaccine is. The cancer vaccine has been experimentally tested on lab mice / rats before giving it to patients. Humans are the experiment test for the COVID vaccine.
As for the mask, I'll wear it when required. I still don't understand people wearing a mask while driving alone in a vehicle.:rolleyes:
 
Serenity4321 said:
I really do not get it..seems there are many, I am seeing some here in Florida, who do not think they should wear a mask or be vaccinated. I especially do not understand the thinking that it is 'one's right' to decide whether they will or will not wear a mask...I certainly do not find them comfortable but a necessary evil..jk on the evil...I can almost understand how some have become frightened by the side effects discussions regarding the vaccine...Seems to me if we are going to get control of this virus we need more cooperation
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Re: in bold- That is the logical, sensible position, but logic and sensibility(and sense of duty to fellow man) have been replaced by selfish, emotion driven views fueled by the availability of conspiracy media that has turned millions into ill-informed arm chair experts on immunology and pandemic administration. One slick Youtube video by some pseudo expert carries more weight with some than decades of medical training and experience.
Very sad, I always thought we'd all die from a nuclear holicost but instead we'll just slowly choke to death on some else's stupidity.
 
Nathan said:
Re: in bold- That is the logical, sensible position, but logic and sensibility(and sense of duty to fellow man) have been replaced by selfish, emotion driven views fueled by the availability of conspiracy media that has turned millions into ill-informed arm chair experts on immunology and pandemic administration. One slick Youtube video by some pseudo expert carries more weight with some than decades of medical training and experience.
Very sad, I always thought we'd all die from a nuclear holicost but instead we'll just slowly choke to death on some else's stupidity.
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Yes, isn't it shameful that people don't trust decades of medical training and experience - funded by drug & vaccine manufacturers?
Just 'cuz medical professionals say whatever they are paid to say, doesn't mean we shouldn't trust them.
I trust them; that's why I switched to Camel Cigarettes.
 
Becky1951 said:
For medical reason's I'm not vaccinated. I do wear a mask. I do believe its a personal choice to be vaccinated.

"Seems to me if we are going to get control of this virus we need more cooperation"

Seems to me it was nonsense for the CDC to assume that vaccinated people could stop wearing masks 2 weeks after second shot. The studies on the trial of the vaccines didn't include enough time to make certain that vaccinated persons could have breakthrough cases that spread the virus.

Also they assumed that the vaccines probably would protect future variant's obviously since they had dropped the wear a mask recommendation. Too much assuming by the CDC and the "experts".
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Same here Becky - for me Medical reasons.
 
Nathan said:
Enjoy those Camel cigarettes! :p
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Yes, & I also enjoy other doctor-endorsed products:
Green Coffee Extract for weight loss
Nugenics for energy, lower blood pressure & cholesterol & sexual stamina ("She'll enjoy it, too")
Lipozene to lose 4 times the weight without changing my diet
Sero Vital for reducing body fat, increasing energy & feeling & looking younger.
Testoterex - more muscle, increased strength &.....uh......feeling 20 again.
 
win231 said:
Yes, & I also enjoy other doctor-endorsed products:
Green Coffee Extract for weight loss
Nugenics for energy, lower blood pressure & cholesterol & sexual stamina ("She'll enjoy it, too")
Lipozene to lose 4 times the weight without changing my diet
Sero Vital for reducing body fat, increasing energy & feeling & looking younger.
Testoterex - more muscle, increased strength &.....uh......feeling 20 again.
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Sounds like you're listening to the wrong "doctors"! :LOL:
 
John cycling said:
The #1 reason for me is doing my own research and having the intelligence to not do unhealthy and life destroying things.
Wearing a mask significantly reduces the oxygen supply to the body and blocks the elimination of waste products from the lungs.
Low level of oxygen <-- in adult from wearing a mask in just a few seconds.
High levels of CO2 <-- in 11 year old child from wearing different masks in just a few seconds.

Being injected with well known poisons is quite likely to be devastating to one's quality of life and life span.
Ryan Cole, M.D. - "Covid-19 Vaccines and Autopsy" <--
Numerous reports of Covid-19 vaccination deaths and failures. <--
Scientific Truth - as opposed to vaccination controlled media fear mongering propaganda.
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Thank you ...I look at it as risk versus reward...I have not gotten a flu shot for years and never had the flu but Covid was something different and for the most part it seems to vaccinate and to wear masks helped
I agree the masks are not comfortable and I do not wear one when I am outside...but inside for a short period of time I think they are beneficial

There are opposing views and it is difficult to sort out the truth from the falsehoods
 
win231 said:
Yes, & I also enjoy other doctor-endorsed products:
Green Coffee Extract for weight loss
Nugenics for energy, lower blood pressure & cholesterol & sexual stamina ("She'll enjoy it, too")
Lipozene to lose 4 times the weight without changing my diet
Sero Vital for reducing body fat, increasing energy & feeling & looking younger.
Testoterex - more muscle, increased strength &.....uh......feeling 20 again.
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John cycling said:
Unless you don't listen to them! :ROFLMAO:
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I don't. And I don't listen to people who cherry pick either the good news or the bad news.

Thankfully, I have the intelligence to evaluate sources of information for myself.

I have decided to wear a good N95 type mask indoors in any crowded place as a simple extra precaution. Of course, I avoid crowded indoor places if practical. Thankfully, I don't suffer from any respiratory issues that might make breathing in an N95 mask a problem for me.

My defense against Covid and other respiratory diseases is several layers: vaccination, mask, avoid crowded indoor situations, and seek out well ventilated areas when I must be indoors with others. The more of these I have, the safer I am. If one fails me, hopefully, I have one or two other protections that will succeed. If I find I am wrong, I will change my plans for protection.
 
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Serenity4321 said:
Thank you ...I look at it as risk versus reward...I have not gotten a flu shot for years and never had the flu but Covid was something different and for the most part it seems to vaccinate and to wear masks helped
I agree the masks are not comfortable and I do not wear one when I am outside...but inside for a short period of time I think they are beneficial

There are opposing views and it is difficult to sort out the truth from the falsehoods
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I don't think anyone is advocating wearing the masks outside, unless maybe you're in a huge crowd of unmasked people, all yelling, singing, etc. Even before we had the vaccine, I never wore my mask outdoors when walking alone. What would be the point?
 
ProTruckDriver said:
Three reasons I'm not getting Vaccinated:
  1. Leukemia ~ White blood cell count is through the roof. Red blood cell count is low.
  2. Agammaglobulinemia ~ My antibodies are low and my body makes very few. Vaccine is useless to me since it is based on antibodies.
  3. Unknown Long Term Side Effects on this new type vaccine for COVID. This type of vaccine has been used to treat cancer patients since the 1990's BUT the cancer vaccine is not a "One Size Fits All" vaccine like the COVID vaccine is. The cancer vaccine has been experimentally tested on lab mice / rats before giving it to patients. Humans are the experiment test for the COVID vaccine.
As for the mask, I'll wear it when required. I still don't understand people wearing a mask while driving alone in a vehicle.:rolleyes:
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Yup I don’t understand it either but I think it’s because once they have the mask on and have gone out somewhere they don’t want to be contaminated by touching the mask-taking it off, putting it back on. That’s all I can figure
 
Sunny said:
I don't think anyone is advocating wearing the masks outside, unless maybe you're in a huge crowd of unmasked people, all yelling, singing, etc. Even before we had the vaccine, I never wore my mask outdoors when walking alone. What would be the point?
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When I exercised at the park daily during the pandemic I never wore a mask. However, I noticed about 5 per cent of the walkers wore masks. I saw no need to because I was outdoors and whenever passing another walker, I distanced by moving onto the grassy surface. The city had signs along the 1-mile walking track to social distance.
 
I'm vaccinated and still wearing a mask.

By next month or the first week of next month, my job will require vaccination or you can't work. Someone is leaving and someone else mumbled something about "socialism" today.

I guess at my job there is no choice but it's something I don't have to worry about. Got vaccinated in January, no side effects so far.
 
I went to one of those Noodles restaurants this afternoon and all the workers were wearing facemasks. It was really warm and humid in there to the point where I felt uncomfortable with my facemask after just a few minutes. I would guess that the workers were miserable having to wear a facemask all day, but at least they were doing it for the good of society. They all looked like they were in their 20s, so it might not have been that big a deal for them. I did tough physical work when I lived in Houston in my 20s where it would often be in the upper 90s with 90% humidity. You just learn to put up with it.

As a side note, I thought I was in SmashBurgers which was right next door. I really need to wear my glasses when I go out! DOH!
 
Irwin said:
I went to one of those Noodles restaurants this afternoon and all the workers were wearing facemasks. It was really warm and humid in there to the point where I felt uncomfortable with my facemask after just a few minutes. I would guess that the workers were miserable having to wear a facemask all day, but at least they were doing it for the good of society. They all looked like they were in their 20s, so it might not have been that big a deal for them. I did tough physical work when I lived in Houston in my 20s where it would often be in the upper 90s with 90% humidity. You just learn to put up with it.

As a side note, I thought I was in SmashBurgers which was right next door. I really need to wear my glasses when I go out! DOH!
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So .... what did you end up eating? Noodles or smash-burgers? (I hope is was the latter?)
Can't get smash burgers where I live and I'd really like to try one. They sound amazing!!
 
Brookswood said:
I don't. And I don't listen to people who cherry pick either the good news or the bad news.

Thankfully, I have the intelligence to evaluate sources of information for myself.

I have decided to wear a good N95 type mask indoors in any crowded place as a simple extra precaution. Of course, I avoid crowded indoor places if practical. Thankfully, I don't suffer from any respiratory issues that might make breathing in an N95 mask a problem for me.

My defense against Covid and other respiratory diseases is several layers: vaccination, mask, avoid crowded indoor situations, and seek out well ventilated areas when I must be indoors with others. The more of these I have, the safer I am. If one fails me, hopefully, I have one or two other protections that will succeed. If I find I am wrong, I will change my plans for protection.
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Well said! I agree.
 

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