US is diversifying, white population shrinking

officerripley said:
Ask a rich person; they know. (Of course, you most likely won't get a straight answer out of them, but they know.)
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Chris P Bacon said:
I'ma start up a new thing, 4th world countries. We can all be human and we can all getta long. You wanna be a part of such a world or you wanna be apart from such a world? Your choice cuz you're welcome to do either. I'm doing what I can to make a better world even if it's only in my imagination. What about the second worlds? Who or where are they? I hear all time about first world this, third world that but second world never gets a mention. What's up with that? Semantics and pedantics, will they ever get along?
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The "second world" used to refer to Communist countries. I don't know if the term is in use since the breakup of the USSR and the "capitalization" of China and Vietnam.

Investors refer to less-developed countries, "emerging markets" and "frontier economies."
 

JimBob1952 said:
"Talking the talk?" Asians play a hugely disproportionate role in the global tech industry (and in finance, pharmaceuticals and many other sectors.) How did the supposedly racist business community let such a thing happen?

Your comments would indicate that you don't know anything at all about business. Maybe I'm wrong and you're a venture capitalist with an undergraduate engineering degree and a Stanford MBA. But I don't think so.
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It seems racist, yeah, I know already but I couldn't resist putting in another 2¢ worth, so here goes.

Yes, Asians talk the talk, even if it is in a language that we Americans, (or USA'ins might be more proper because South and Central Americans exist too and North America includes Canadians and Mexicans, so there's a need for new verbiage, or is there really?) Back to my point, Asians talk the "talk" but Asian's also "wok the wok"! Bad humor, I know and not all Asiatic peoples use woks to cook with. Some Russians are Asian as well as other nationalities. The world just is too complicated for such a simple mind as mine! I'm just doing what I can to comfort the disturbed and to disturb the overly comfortable.
 
Alligatorob said:
"claim that the entire SW portion of the U.S. was taken illegally from Mexico during the Mexican American war in the mid 1800's" It probably was, in fact if you look closely most all of the US has been taken by what we would call illegal means by today's standards. Can't do much about that now, the statue of limitations has long run out. Time to do the best with what we have.
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The only group that can claim "ownership" of America are Native Americans. Mexican's and others who claim that the U.S. illegally took the S.W. portion of America from Mexico need to stop and consider that the Spanish stole that same land from Native Americans.
 

Chris P Bacon said:
It seems racist, yeah, I know already but I couldn't resist putting in another 2¢ worth, so here goes.

Yes, Asians talk the talk, even if it is in a language that we Americans, (or USA'ins might be more proper because South and Central Americans exist too and North America includes Canadians and Mexicans, so there's a need for new verbiage, or is there really?) Back to my point, Asians talk the "talk" but Asian's also "wok the wok"! Bad humor, I know and not all Asiatic peoples use woks to cook with. Some Russians are Asian as well as other nationalities. The world just is too complicated for such a simple mind as mine! I'm just doing what I can to comfort the disturbed and to disturb the overly comfortable.
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I thought we were supposed to call people by the names they want to be called. I want to be called an American. U.S. Citizen will do fine as well.
 
JimBob1952 said:
I thought we were supposed to call people by the names they want to be called. I want to be called an American. U.S. Citizen will do fine as well.
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Canadians are "Americans" too though, dot'cha see? North Americans. Brazilians are Americans too, SOUTH Americans. How about if we're gonna call each other names, we use the ones our parents chose for us or ones we chose because we liked them better, once we grew up or at least once we aged. Not everyone grows up I guess. Thanks for the input, U.S. Citizen! Or do you prefer JimBob1952 or just plain ol' American? Maybe some combination of the lot? :)
 
Della said:
The lower income woman's wages may stay the same but her costs are going to increase with every child and her kids aren't going to escape poverty if she can't put them through college. I was a minimum wage mother . I was married again by the time he was ready for college, but it still took almost my entire income to put him through school. Fortunately my husband earned enough as a USAF sgt to pay for our rent and food for four years while I did that.
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Exactly, If you were a minimum wage worker with kids, and DID NOT MARRY to get a second income, your children would have not been able to go to college. You would still be able to get only minimum wage jobs, and the cycle of poverty would continue for another generation. BTW, this is not a racial problem. This is a class/economic problem, which affects minimum wage women, unmarried with children, regardless of race.
 
What if colleges were abolished and knowledge/education was freely dispensed? It doesn't, after all, guarantee a life without problems by just obtaining a degree and foisting tremendous debt upon so many. So why is such a premium placed upon a degree? If I start my own waste disposal business, without first having a college degree, will I be less successful than a competitor who has one? And the men who do the trash collecting for my company, were I to start one, do they really need college degrees to make a living wage working on or operating a refuse truck? What if we eliminated or worked to try to eliminate the greediness that seems to permeate the society. If we all were just a little bit kinder to one another and a little more trusting of those who are trustworthy, would that maybe make at least some difference in the world we all live in? What about entrepeneurship? Or imagination? It doesn't take a college degree to imagine a better world but a little imagination or ingenuity might help to bring that about. Maybe not in my lifetime but maybe it could at least begin to happen in my lifetime.
 
@Alligatorob But since all of us are already "here" can't we find positions for all of us and fit everyone in somehow? Education is exclusive, life should be inclusive. But that's just my opinion. Easy isn't always the answer. Especially if it hasn't worked so far.
 
On the other hand, if you wanted to build bridges or something of the sort, you'd certainly need a good deal of schooling for that.

Ya wanna be a lawyer? Go to college.
 
What college did the very first bridge builders or lawyers attend? And how much were they charged to study there? When and why did learning become so expensive? Who instructed the first instructors? My thought would be that they merely declared themselves "learned" and began persuading people to believe that this was true. Then they persuaded them further that knowledge should be paid for. I have no desire to become a lawyer or have any career at all at this stage of my game. But I do wish that life could be a little more hospitable to us all and at no cost to any of us other than our personal efforts and time.
 
Chris P Bacon said:
But I do wish that life could be a little more hospitable to us all and at no cost to any of us other than our personal efforts and time.
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So you're saying that, if you needed schooling, you'd want someone else to provide it (knowledge, teaching, etc.) on their own time and their own dime to you for free?
 
Chris P Bacon said:
Canadians are "Americans" too though, dot'cha see? North Americans. Brazilians are Americans too, SOUTH Americans.
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I strongly disagree. The ONLY group of people who can call themselves Americans are those who are citizens of The United States of America. The rest are NORTH or SOUTH Americans.
 
Chris P Bacon said:
Believe what you will then. I can't force you to be right, nor would I try.
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It would be a mighty strange situation if a Brazilian, who flew into Europe, identified himself to French immigration, as an American. I seriously doubt that French immigration would accept that.
Moreover, those Mexicans who travel back and forth across the U.S. border, identify themselves as Mexicans. NOT AMERICANS ! Same is true of Canadians who cross our northern border.
Finally, only citizens of The United States of America are Americans. No other country has as part of its name ...AMERICA.
 
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I spent the winter in South America. They don't call them selves "Americans" per se but there is an undercurrent of resentment that their continent gets such little recognition as does Los Estados Unidos. (That's Spanish for The United States, which is what they call your "America". Notice that America isn't a part of the phrase. Maybe that's intentional?) But as I said, I can't force you to be right. You believe what you will but the truth doesn't care what you believe. The truth is the truth, irregardless.
 
senior chef said:
I strongly disagree. The ONLY group of people who can call themselves Americans are those who are citizens of The United States of America. The rest are NORTH or SOUTH Americans.
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Not sure I agree with that, but we do suffer a bit as a country with no unique name of our own...

When the US formed the declaration of independence read: "The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America". Note that the word united was not capitalized, United States of America only became our formal name later. The term was originally used to identify the states that were declaring independence, not as a name or the name of a country. The states didn't seem to want a unique name, they thought of themselves as Virginians or New Yorkers who came together for the purpose of overthrowing the British.

Since no one really owns it I think Canadians or Chileans or anyone in the Americas has as much right to the name as we do.
 
You may not be sure but I kind of get the feeling that you don't agree. So be it. As I said, the truth doesn't depend on your agreement or mine either. The truth is the truth no matter what you or I decide it may be in our personal view. Maybe we can just agree to disagree and let it go at that, eh? I can write that this country is called The Looney Bin Alliance Of States. That doesn't make it so. And the declaration of independence is not binding upon any other country EXCEPT Los Estados Unidos. Love ya Buddy but I don't love where this is headed! Gracias!
 
I have lived in Mexico for almost 10 years now. In my neighborhood, I'm referred to as "El Americano". See ? Even Mexicans know exactly who is and is not Americans. It may be politically correct to attempt to take the name "American" and toss it in the garbage can. America haters ! No matter what anyone says, I'm still proud to be American.
 
Call yourself what you like. I'll add American to your list of preferred pronouns. I don't know who is or is not an America hater. I certainly am not one but just from reading your statements I don't think that anyone would confuse you as being tolerant of any beliefs that are not your own. America, land of the free and the home of the arrogant.
 
Alligatorob said:
Not sure I agree with that, but we do suffer a bit as a country with no unique name of our own...

When the US formed the declaration of independence read: "The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America". Note that the word united was not capitalized, United States of America only became our formal name later.
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True, but in Jefferson's draft the U was capitalized. It was either toned down by the Congress or the transcriber did it.
 

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