Afghan Evacuationl; the US Soldier's Perspective

Irwin said:
It was then Secretary of State, John Foster Dulles, who ordered the overthrow of Iran's government in 1953 to make the world safe for American oil companies. A year later, he ordered the coup in Guatemala because its government was standing up to United Fruit Co.

The Dulles Airport near Washington, D.C. is named for John Foster Dulles.

Maybe we shouldn't be honoring people who caused so much harm in the world. :unsure:
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Yeah, we went and killed people for oil when we had (have) plenty here. But better to spoil a desert and kill a bunch of unfamiliar types than to argue environmental issues at home. Those kind of arguments don't get people elected.
 
Pepper said:
That doesn't mean celebrating them either. That's not altering.
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Correct. And history shouldn't be a string of fairy-tales, is what I mean. The "First Thanksgiving" comes to mind. Half my 4th grade class wore paper headbands with paper feathers, and the other half wore black paper Pilgrim hats, and the Pilgrims were all like, "Hey, Chief, thanks for the corn! Join us for some turkey and sweet potatoes."

And new facts should = new textbooks.
 
I think the problem with Afghanistan was that it was way too hard to keep, and way too hard to let it go. There were no real good options, either way. We were damned if we didn't, and damned, if we did. And just because we don't have boots on the ground, we still own the sky. It's security blanket. And the fact that the Taliban insurgency took over the nation with such little resistance, the US & Allies never got the "hearts and minds" of the Afghanis.
 
fuzzybuddy said:
the fact that the Taliban insurgency took over the nation with such little resistance, the US & Allies never got the "hearts and minds" of the Afghanis.
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I said it earlier and will say again, you simply cannot win a war unless and until you get the support of the majority of the population. The imperialistic wars of colonialist terrorism in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan failed for that reason. At no point did any of those people invite the American invaders. They were only welcomed by power hungry elitist dictators who ruled the majority of the people like a bunch of Hitlerian tyrants. The people did not resist the Taliban because there was no incentive to do so. They stepped aside and allowed the Taliban soldiers to march into every provincial capitol because their leadership is what the majority wanted. Now it's time for the Western elites and pols who started this war to pay reparations for all the damage they caused.
 
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