Man, I truly hope this doesn't prove to be widespread

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A shocking new study that was conducted by researchers at Canada’s University of Ottawa Heart Institute found that one out of every
thousand(1/1000) mRNA Covid-19 vaccinations causes heart inflammation (myopericarditis) to develop rapidly in otherwise healthy
individuals.
Researchers found that the symptoms show up extremely quickly after vaccination, usually after the patient’s second dose. On average, people who were affected developed the condition after just 1.5 days. They also found that men are at a much greater risk than women.

People who took the Moderna jab were 3x more likely to develop symptoms than those who took the Pfizer shot.

To date, this has been the largest case study that has looked at the correlation Covid mRNA vaccines and myocarditis symptoms within a month of vaccination.
 

squatting dog said:
new study
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Is this the study you are referring to? https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.09.13.21262182v1

If so it is very new, so far not peer reviewed and a relatively small sample size, when compared to the number of vaccinated people anyway. However it clearly is something that deserves more study and watching.

I am no medical expert, it would be helpful to know more about the myopericarditis, how serious is it? Sounds bad to me...

Apparently the smallpox vaccine has a similar effect ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myopericarditis )
 

Agree this should be investigated further. However, the news isn't as terrible as it might seem from first glance.
The MedRxIV report states:

"Summary and Conclusions This is the largest series in the literature to clearly relate the temporal relationship between mRNA COVID vaccination, symptoms and CMR findings. In most patients, symptom onset began within the first few days after vaccination with corresponding abnormalities in biomarkers and on ECG. Cardiac MRI confirmed acute myocardial and pericardial changes with the presence of edema demonstrated with both tissue mapping and late gadolinium enhancement. Symptoms settled quickly with standard therapy and patients were discharged within a few days. No major adverse cardiac events and no significant arrythmias were noted during inpatient stay. Further follow up will be required to ascertain the longer-term outcomes of this patient group."

Bold emphasis is mine.
 
I looked this up, and found CDC's answer, which says:

Should I Still Get Myself or My Child Vaccinated?​


Yes. CDC continues to recommend that everyone aged 12 years and older get vaccinated for COVID-19. The known risks of COVID-19 illness and its related, possibly severe complications, such as long-term health problems, hospitalization, and even death, far outweigh the potential risks of having a rare adverse reaction to vaccination, including the possible risk of myocarditis or pericarditis.
 
Alligatorob said:
Is this the study you are referring to? https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.09.13.21262182v1

If so it is very new, so far not peer reviewed and a relatively small sample size, when compared to the number of vaccinated people anyway. However it clearly is something that deserves more study and watching.

I am no medical expert, it would be helpful to know more about the myopericarditis, how serious is it? Sounds bad to me...

Apparently the smallpox vaccine has a similar effect ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myopericarditis )
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Yes. small study of 32,000 people. What stood out to me was the fact that there was such a percentage for just a 2 month study. Hopefully someone is doing a larger and longer study.
 
The incidences of myocarditis in otherwise healthy young people is concerning to me. People point out how very small a percentage of people have adverse reactions but there's no way to tell who will have those reactions. I know of at least one exception. My DIL and her sisters all have some kind of autoimmune disease. She said one of them was told not to take the vaccine because she could develop an allergic reaction to almost anything at any time. I forgot the name of the ailment. She's under a doctor's care.and their sister is a nurse...so I know she's getting sound medical advice. I maintain that the bottom line with this is they don't know all there is to know yet!
 
StarSong said:
Agree this should be investigated further. However, the news isn't as terrible as it might seem from first glance.
The MedRxIV report states:

"Summary and Conclusions This is the largest series in the literature to clearly relate the temporal relationship between mRNA COVID vaccination, symptoms and CMR findings. In most patients, symptom onset began within the first few days after vaccination with corresponding abnormalities in biomarkers and on ECG. Cardiac MRI confirmed acute myocardial and pericardial changes with the presence of edema demonstrated with both tissue mapping and late gadolinium enhancement. Symptoms settled quickly with standard therapy and patients were discharged within a few days. No major adverse cardiac events and no significant arrythmias were noted during inpatient stay. Further follow up will be required to ascertain the longer-term outcomes of this patient group."

Bold emphasis is mine.
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@StarSong This is preliminary data. They plan to do long-term follow up.
 
squatting dog said:
Yes. small study of 32,000 people. What stood out to me was the fact that there was such a percentage for just a 2 month study. Hopefully someone is doing a larger and longer study.
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There were 32 admissions (out of an 32,379 cumulative vaccinated with Moderna and Pfizer) to the University of Ottawa Heart institute over two months who developed cardiac problems 1.5 days average after receiving mRNA vaccines. Their average hospital admission was an average of 4 days. They will be followed for long term study.
 
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Sunny said:
I looked this up, and found CDC's answer, which says:

Should I Still Get Myself or My Child Vaccinated?​


Yes. CDC continues to recommend that everyone aged 12 years and older get vaccinated for COVID-19. The known risks of COVID-19 illness and its related, possibly severe complications, such as long-term health problems, hospitalization, and even death, far outweigh the potential risks of having a rare adverse reaction to vaccination, including the possible risk of myocarditis or pericarditis.
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@Sunny ...This post probably won't mean a thing to you (apologies if I'm mistakenly judging you as entrenched and inflexible but your aggregate posts appear so). CDC employess until 10 years ago or so were allowed to moonlight as consultants for pharmaceutical companies. There is no provision for liability for vaccine injury in the United States. There is a vaccine court (VARS) that few people know about that is set up to judge damages and is stringent about medical documentation that many physicians do not know how to properly do if they're even aware of VARS. Pharmaceutical companies lobby the US Congress with more money annually above board than any other industry including the gun lobby and big oil and gas.

Learn how to read original research studies from the US as well as other countries before you put faith in the bureaucrats at the CDC--the same organization that flubbed the initial pandemic testing abysmally.
 

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