Wedding Planner Say's "Sorry, Can't Do It"

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Local news here:
A Lesbian couple here in our area called a Wedding Planner to help them put together their wedding in Oct. The Wedding Planner, who is also the owner of the Business, told then that the date they requested wasn't available and, due to her beliefs, she couldn't do the wedding anyway. She was very polite in her statement and told them that she was sorry, but that did no good. The Wedding Planner told media that she feels like she is being "bullied" on her Facebook page. She says that she believes that marriage should be between a man and a woman. The Lesbian couple can't believe that the lady said "due to my beliefs, I can't do it". One of the couple said that the are being discriminated against because they are Lesbians. One also put her business on a list online giving the names of businesses that are not Gay and Lesbian friendly.

My feelings:

The Wedding Planner has the right to turn away anybody she so desires. It's her belief and her Business! This Lesbian couple doesn't know it by now that not everyone believes and supports gay marriage? Where have you two been???
 

The wedding planner has the right to refuse just as the couple has the right to go to another planner.

As for the list of not gay friendly businesses somehow I see this as discriminatory. A business such as a wedding planner does a specific job of marrying men and women only. BUT, Take the case of a dog groomer for instance, what if a gay couple had a pit bull and the groomer refused service. Would it be fair to put the groomer on the list?
 

Oh sure - fine for the wedding planner to discriminate because it's her business? -- NOT! It's called discrimination folks! Then I guess it's OK for a restaurant to turn away customers because they don't 'believe' in their lifestyle choices? We have a government department here called the Department of Human Rights and the wedding planner could be charged with a human rights issue, and rightly so. I think the wedding planner is a total bigot, but bigotry might be OK for some people. Or if you don't like the word bigot, perhaps 'intolerant' might be nicer, but it still means the same thing.
 
Cookie said:
Oh sure - fine for the wedding planner to discriminate because it's her business? -- NOT! It's called discrimination folks! Then I guess it's OK for a restaurant to turn away customers because they don't 'believe' in their lifestyle choices? We have a government department here called the Department of Human Rights and the wedding planner could be charged with a human rights issue, and rightly so. I think the wedding planner is a total bigot, but bigotry might be OK for some people. Or if you don't like the word bigot, perhaps 'intolerant' might be nicer, but it still means the same thing.
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Cookie is exactly right, we had a discussion about this once before, only it was a baker....the wedding planner better hope the couple do not sue, because the wedding planner would lose.
 
Cookie said:
Oh sure - fine for the wedding planner to discriminate because it's her business? -- NOT! It's called discrimination folks! Then I guess it's OK for a restaurant to turn away customers because they don't 'believe' in their lifestyle choices? We have a government department here called the Department of Human Rights and the wedding planner could be charged with a human rights issue, and rightly so. I think the wedding planner is a total bigot, but bigotry might be OK for some people. Or if you don't like the word bigot, perhaps 'intolerant' might be nicer, but it still means the same thing.
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Jackie22 said:
Cookie is exactly right, we had a discussion about this once before, only it was a baker....the wedding planner better hope the couple do not sue, because the wedding planner would lose.
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People such as yourselves continue to give me hope in humanity. I know it's a bit off topic, but, I'm still seething and feeling pain from thoughts of what happened to Alan Turing, the man partly responsible for making it possible for us to have access to communicate as we are today and so much more. You had to see the movie to see what those injections and the humiliation and prejudice did to this human being. When those beliefs cause the destruction of other human souls and infringe on their right to live a whole life, I have a problem. If you want a license issued to you to work a public business, you need to be prepared to serve the public as a whole without prejudice.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/people/alan_turing
"In 1952, Turing was arrested and tried for homosexuality, then a criminal offence. To avoid prison, he accepted injections of oestrogen for a year, which were intended to neutralise his libido. In that era, homosexuals were considered a security risk as they were open to blackmail. Turing's security clearance was withdrawn, meaning he could no longer work for GCHQ, the post-war successor to Bletchley Park."
He committed suicide on 7 June, 1954.
 
I don't think the wedding planner has the right to refuse the gay couple.

The Federal Civil Rights Act guarantees all people the right to "full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin."


 
I feel the same way I did about the baker who refused to make a wedding cake for a gay couple. If you want to benefit financially from opening a business that serves the public, then serve the public without discrimination. You have your right to worship in your own religion, but keep that at home when you're working. If you can't separate business from personal belief, then close your doors. Discrimination against race, sex, etc. is against the law and rightfully so.

DENVER (AP) — Colorado's Civil Rights Commission on Friday ordered a baker to make wedding cakes for same-sex couples, finding his religious objections to the practice did not trump the state's anti-discrimination statutes.
The unanimous ruling from the seven-member commission upheld an administrative law judge's finding in December that Jack Phillips violated civil rights law when he refused to make a wedding cake for a gay couple in 2012. The couple sued
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All this pcness, where has, we are all individuals with our own thoughts and beliefs gone. I prefer not to live my life like a sheep.
 
Fern said:
All this pcness, where has, we are all individuals with our own thoughts and beliefs gone. I prefer not to live my life like a sheep.
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Yes, it's great that today people think more freely instead of following the herd in how they were taught to believe how humans should be to accommodate antiquated thought patterns. Yep, have to love all the new free thinkers of the world whether they are starting to coincide with a few others here and there or not, just shows that some people aren't stuck.
 
[h=1]They have reversed their decision....


Duke University reverses decision, cancels weekly Muslim call to prayer[/h]http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ecision-cancels-weekly-muslim-call-to-prayer/

By Susan Svrluga and Michelle Boorstein January 15 at 8:15 PM

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People walk by Duke Chapel on the campus of Duke University in Durham, N.C. in 2010. The University had planned to have a Muslim call to prayer on Friday but reversed the decision on Thursday. (Jim R. Bounds/Bloomberg)

Duke University canceled plans Thursday to begin a weekly Muslim call to prayer from the campus chapel this week, an initiative that had set off debate on social media. A school spokesman and a Duke Muslim leader said that a serious and credible security threat played a role in the decision.

The university had announced that Muslim students would chant the ‘adhan,’ the call to a weekly prayer service, from the Duke University Chapel bell tower each Friday. The sound of the call to prayer in Muslim communities is a standard part of ritual life on Muslims’ main prayer day. Theologically, it reminds Muslims “to worship God and serves as a reminder to serve our brothers and sisters in humanity,” Imam Adeel Zeb, Muslim chaplain at Duke, said in a news release.

But reaction to the story off campus was swift. Some celebrated the decision.

But many strongly opposed it.

more at link
 
In the case of the Lesbian couple mentioned, I'm sure they can find another planner. It would have been better if the planner had said she was booked up in the first place, without saying anything else.As I'm sure they do get booked up.
 
It would have been best all round [for the couple AND the planner] if she had just said she was booked up, thus avoiding all this stuff, it would have been the sensible thing to do.Nobody is sensible any more though, they are too busy all shouting about their rights.
 
I still don't really understand what a wedding planner does?
isn't it more fun to DIY; or are people just 'too busy'?
 
Vivjen I am a tv court case junkie and seems to me there are a lot of wedding planners being sued by unhappy couples.

Having a planner has become a status symbol of sorts and of course the Bridezillas have someone to blame if something goes wrong.
 
Forget about what a planner does or whether you can do without a wedding planner, that's not the issue at stake here. This couple has been discriminated against they've been descriminated against all their life and members of the LGBT community are legitimately fed up with being discriminated against. This couple is bravely standing up for what they and I think are their rights.
 
Do you live in one of the states that bans gay marriage or not, Josiah?
just interested....
 
Josiah09 said:
Forget about what a planner does or whether you can do without a wedding planner, that's not the issue at stake here. This couple has been discriminated against they've been descriminated against all their life and members of the LGBT community are legitimately fed up with being discriminated against. This couple is bravely standing up for what they and I think are their rights.
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Exactly....
 

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