Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set

"The film's plot centers on Harland Rust (Baldwin), an infamous Western outlaw who has had a bounty on his head for as long as he can remember. When his estranged 13-year-old grandson Lucas (Noon) is convicted of an accidental murder and sentenced to hang, Rust travels to Kansas to break him out of prison."
 

"The film's plot centers on Harland Rust (Baldwin), an infamous Western outlaw who has had a bounty on his head for as long as he can remember. When his estranged 13-year-old grandson Lucas (Noon) is convicted of an accidental murder and sentenced to hang, Rust travels to Kansas to break him out of prison."

So he's doing badass criminal with a gun.
 
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Hypocrites come in all stripes from everyday people on. 'Do as I say, not as I do' pretty much sums it up. An actor of Baldwin's stature committed to an anti-gun stance has plenty of opportunities to make money without glamorizing guns.

That is why I couldn't care less about most actors ...... as long as they are making money ....., they have no agenda. However, the minute the camera goes off ........ they're quick to tell the rest of us how we must live.
 

That is why I couldn't care less about most actors ...... as long as they are making money ....., they have no agenda. However, the minute the camera goes off ........ they're quick to tell the rest of us how we must live.

Yep. I don't care what they portray on screen so long as they don't preach the opposite off stage.
 
So, how & why, did an actual bullet get placed in a "prop" gun ?? Could someone even be that inattentive ? [accidental loading] ?? Why in the hell would real bullets even be on set ?

IMO, there is alot of missing information/hinky details missing, regarding the whole incident.
 
Apparently an assistant director handed the gun to Baldwin and told him it wasn't loaded so there was some sort of miscommunication between the armorer and the assistant director. Dunno how many people handled it between those two.

I still don't understand why it was pointed at the cinematographer or why Baldwin didn't follow basic gun safety guidelines such as not putting a finger on the trigger unless he had made the decision to shoot immediately. Cannot imagine that he didn't know of instances in which people were harmed on set by blanks.
 
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Didn't a Hollywood union renew their contract earlier this week? They weren't part of the same union?
I think you must be right. What I read this morning sounded like the walk-out was the day of the shooting and union related, but what I read on CNN just now said this:

"Before Thursday's shooting, some crew members quit the production over concerns related to safety -- including gun inspections and Covid-19 protocols not being followed, according to the Los Angeles Times and other media reports.
Three crew members who were on the set last weekend told the Times there were two accidental prop gun discharges before Thursday."


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So this is sounding less like a freak mix-up and more like a criminally sloppy production.
 
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It's obvious AB feels terrible about this. I saw him hugging the deceased lady's husband. It's so tragic and very sad. Why do people always like to point the finger of blame before all that's needed to learn has been learned?

I surely hope that this type of circumstances doesn't happen to anyone being so critical.
 
A little about the woman that was killed ..

Originally from Ukraine, Halyna grew up on a Soviet military base in the Arctic Circle surrounded by reindeer and nuclear submarines. She holds a graduate degree in International Journalism from Kyiv National University in Ukraine and previously worked as an investigative journalist with British documentary productions in Europe.

http://www.halynahutchinsdp.com/bio
Thank you for reminding people that she is not just a statistic...she was a person, she had a family, she had accomplishments.....she had a story that was all her own. 😢
 
I haven't watched much on the news this weekend. I assumed those who were accidentally shot by Alec were not actually actors participating in a scene. Was Alec just playing around with the prop gun? Why was it even aimed at these two people? Even if he was goofing around, the more I think of it, it is odd that there would be more than one victim. Would be nice to learn more about what actually happened here, please let me know if I'm missing something.
 
Interesting to see how this runs. I like Alec B but he is known to be volatile and impatient. People walked off the set a couple of days before the death. So something must be really wrong with the arrangements there.
I have nothing against Alec. We all know he's somewhat of a hothead, but he's not a violent killer. When I first heard this on the radio, I was shocked. Told my husband he must feel terrible and will have to live with this accident forever. I didn't pay much attention to people walking off the set, as I say, I haven't heard many details on this horrible accident. It's a shame that something like this could even happen on a set, and I hope they see to it that it never happens again in the future.
 
I have nothing against Alec. We all know he's somewhat of a hothead, but he's not a violent killer. When I first heard this on the radio, I was shocked. Told my husband he must feel terrible and will have to live with this accident forever. I didn't pay much attention to people walking off the set, as I say, I haven't heard many details on this horrible accident. It's a shame that something like this could even happen on a set, and I hope they see to it that it never happens again in the future.
Well I didn't know he's known as a hot head. Don't we all get pissed at times though...I know I do for one of that admits it.🥳😵‍💫😎🤓
 
I have nothing against Alec. We all know he's somewhat of a hothead, but he's not a violent killer. When I first heard this on the radio, I was shocked. Told my husband he must feel terrible and will have to live with this accident forever. I didn't pay much attention to people walking off the set, as I say, I haven't heard many details on this horrible accident. It's a shame that something like this could even happen on a set, and I hope they see to it that it never happens again in the future.
I agree and I am sure he is heart broken. I love him in 30 Rock!
 
Did the gun explode ? As such the projectile go WAY off target .

Speaking of the projectile, was it a true bullet ? It would almost have to be to pass through one person,and hit the other.
You ask some good questions. If it was an antique, it might have exploded - light touch of the trigger - poor condition Do we know that it went through the second person? If it was an explosion they could have been standing beside each other.

IMO, there is alot of missing information/hinky details missing, regarding the whole incident.
The media loves to pick up any bits that they can sensationalize. Be damned with facts.
 
The gun did not explode. It had a real live bullet in it and acted like all guns act when firing a bullet.

The single bullet went through the woman and shot the other person in his shoulder.

Baldwin was not goofing around, he was rehearsing a scene. The scene called for him to shoot a gun toward the doorway of the wooden church. The assistant director handed him the gun to use and called out "cold gun" meaning "not loaded."

The fault was with the assistant director who should have checked the gun before calling "cold gun" and who really shouldn't have been touching the gun at all. The armorer is the only one who should touch the gun, and the armorer is at fault for loading the gun in the first place.

As an actor, I don't think Baldwin is at fault at all, he was just doing his job, rehearsing a part. However he is also a producer of the movie and all the producers may be liable in civil suits for the lack of good safety standards on the set.
 
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He must have been joking. I have many of Cagney's old movies. As a shooter, I can tell by the lack of recoil, there is no real ammo used. In fact, NO movie or TV series uses real ammo.
Well maybe the directors told actors that it is real ammo to motivate their acting. Cagne y was not joking. Directors can make things up
 

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