Vaccines

[GAlady]

Well, lots of luck. Court costs money, and in most states assisted living takes all your money but leaves you about 25 dollars a month. With most everyone around you vaccinated, you may think you have nothing to worry about, but you are in an at risk population, and Delta is a game changer.

I thought my vaccinated son Joey was safe as everyone in his environment was vaccinated. I was so wrong. . Many of the clients in the sheltered workshop have Covid and the workshop closed for two weeks, because so many got Delta. But you have the right to not be vaccinated.

Vaccinated and unvaccinated can carry the Covid virus with or without symptoms. They test us every week and take our temperature & oxygen levels twice a day. I have never tested positive. Many of the vaccinated have tested positive, had symptoms and died. I am very careful. Wear a mask at all times, wash my hands 50 times a day and have not eaten in a restaurant in a year and one half. I have the money to hire an Attorney.

 

[chic]

I have not taken the Covid Vaccines and have no intention to. I live in an Assisted Living and only one other Resident has refused to be vaccinated. Here in our facility, the only ones that have gotten Covid were the vaccinated. Two have died. one was on a ventilator. Think I will take my chances.

Some of the staff have not been vaccinated and it is mandated by December 15th. Biden’s stupid mandate for businesses. I told them they ought to walk off. Some of the real “old timers” here say they don’t want to be around the unvaccinated. They don’t know that I am not.. In case they start mandated for all Residents, I have already talked to an Attorney. Would have to see them in court.

You're lucky to have had a choice! My mom's best friend is in assisted living and all the residents were forced to be vaxxed. No choice.

 

[win231]

Vaccinated and unvaccinated can carry the Covid virus with or without symptoms. They test us every week and take our temperature & oxygen levels twice a day. I have never tested positive. Many of the vaccinated have tested positive, had symptoms and died. I am very careful. Wear a mask at all times, wash my hands 50 times a day and have not eaten in a restaurant in a year and one half. I have the money to hire an Attorney.

^^^^ Good information. And lessons to be learned.......for those with open minds.

 

[Alligatorob]

You do it because you think it impresses people & makes you appear intelligent.

Works for me. @Shero does impress and appears intelligent.

Wish I spoke French, or most any foreign language. I am from Louisiana with many Cajuns in the family, so I have picked up half a dozen or so Cajun expressions, that's it for my French. Laissez les bon temps rouler!

 

[Shero]

Works for me. @Shero does impress and appears intelligent.

Wish I spoke French, or most any foreign language. I am from Louisiana with many Cajuns in the family, so I have picked up half a dozen or so Cajun expressions, that's it for my French. Laissez les bon temps rouler!

Merci mon ami

 

[Aneeda72]

Works for me. @Shero does impress and appears intelligent.

Wish I spoke French, or most any foreign language. I am from Louisiana with many Cajuns in the family, so I have picked up half a dozen or so Cajun expressions, that's it for my French. Laissez les bon temps rouler!

I wish I spoke Spanish

 

[charry]

Use my five simple rules for the pandemic:

1. Get all doses of the vaccine
2. Wash hands frequently
3. Avoid crowds
4. Wear your masks when out and about
5. Treat everybody as the enemy

Exactly .....the same here without getting all the vaccines....if you stick by those numbers your be fine,
The sad thing is , that us anti vaccers, are getting the blame for spreading still
But we take all precautions , it’s the vaccinated that think they are safe , and start, leaving of masks and not bothering with any of the rules and precautions !!

 

[Aneeda72]

Exactly .....the same here without getting all the vaccines....if you stick by those numbers your be fine,
The sad thing is , that us anti vaccers, are getting the blame for spreading still
But we take all precautions , it’s the vaccinated that think they are safe , and start, leaving of masks and not bothering with any of the rules and precautions !!

Mistaken on all counts. Neither my son, or his workmates, left their masks off. They followed the rules and precautions as they are “forced” to do so. The disabled are very monitored . We know exactly who he got delta Covid from even before the tracing was done. Another disabled person with DS. Both these people were vaccinated.

As for treating people like the enemy, , ugh, just ugh. The virus is the enemy, people are not. I am just going to keep saying it, Delta Covid-19 has changed everything. No one is “safe” but some are safer than others.

Because of exposure to my son over a period of days (and being on the Covid overflow ward; I will get tested on Tuesday as you have to wait seven days after your last exposure. I have no symptoms. My older son tested negative. I am sure I will also.

I ordered the test kit today and will pick it up on Tuesday.

 

[Aneeda72]

Chic, go back to French class. Where did I call anti-vaxxers idiots? "Il est" is singular. One. And he is not an idiot because he is an anti-vaxxer. So take a deep breath and stop putting words into people's mouths.

If someone is consistently behaving like a troublemaking 10-year-old, constantly provoking fights on a forum for his own amusement, making fun of someone because (oh, merde!) she uses a few French words now and then, IMO he deserves to be called an idiot. One person. Got it?

I do believe that many of the anti-vaxxers have been misled down a path that can easily lead them (and others around them) to disease and death. That does not make them idiots, but they are following dangerous leadership.

And Ladybj, you should go back to English class! " Whomever it is, they are not my cult leader? "

It's whoever, not whomever. Incorrectly using what you think is fancy English does not convince anybody of anything.

My spelling is awful, my grammar is awful, my punctuation is awful, how did I ended up with a 2 year college degree majoring in English and early childhood education? My math was even worst.

 

[ManjaroKDE]

As for treating people like the enemy, , ugh, just ugh. The virus is the enemy, people are not. I am just going to keep saying it, Delta Covid-19 has changed everything. No one is “safe” but some are safer than others.

@Aneeda72 sorry you took exception to no 5.

The virus is colorless, invisible and darn dangerous. You don't know who has been vaccinated or not, the card is just a piece of paper that you can obtain a fake copy from many sources. The virus can be deadly so I'm protecting myself against the possibility that anyone can be my 'enemy'. We are in a war for survival, make no mistake about that. I'm sorry your son has had a rough time. But my approach's watchword is 'caution' and trust no one.
OK lesson learned.

 

[Aneeda72]

@Aneeda72 sorry you took exception to no 5.

The virus is colorless, invisible and darn dangerous. You don't know who has been vaccinated or not, the card is just a piece of paper that you can obtain a fake copy from many sources. The virus can be deadly so I'm protecting myself against the possibility that anyone can be my 'enemy'. We are in a war for survival, make no mistake about that. I'm sorry your son has had a rough time. But my approach's watchword is 'caution' and trust no one.

I am done with this thread!

You can treat people however you want and I did not even address vaccination cards, don’t know where that came from, but it is the virus that remains the enemy. I never said not to be cautious. You must do whatever you must do for yourself.

I do what I must for myself and my family.

I don’t understand why people announce, dramatically, that they are done with a thread. You can just not respond anymore. No need to shout.

 

[win231]

@Aneeda72 sorry you took exception to no 5.

The virus is colorless, invisible and darn dangerous. You don't know who has been vaccinated or not, the card is just a piece of paper that you can obtain a fake copy from many sources. The virus can be deadly so I'm protecting myself against the possibility that anyone can be my 'enemy'. We are in a war for survival, make no mistake about that. I'm sorry your son has had a rough time. But my approach's watchword is 'caution' and trust no one.

I am done with this thread!

We're happy to hear you're done with this thread; even though we know you're not.
Much like your threat to "Put someone on ignore."

 

[Aneeda72]

We're happy to hear you're done with this thread; even though we know you're not.
Much like your threat to "Put someone on ignore."

“We’re” as in you and, hmm, wait. Do you have multiple personalities or a mouse in your pocket? Or is there someone standing next to you reading over your shoulder or dictating to you or are you counting Alex as a person?

Or perhaps you’ve used the Royal “we”-as I am a King in my own mind. Do let us know which it is. Everyone on this thread is dying to know

 

[win231]

You can treat people however you want and I did not even address vaccination cards, don’t know where that came from, but it is the virus that remains the enemy. I never said not to be cautious. You must do whatever you must do for yourself.

I do what I must for myself and my family.

I don’t understand why people announce, dramatically, that they are done with a thread. You can just not respond anymore. No need to shout.

Same reason a 5 year old says, "I'm running away from home & I'm never coming back."
A craving for attention & sympathy.

 

[SeaBreeze]

You're lucky to have had a choice! My mom's best friend is in assisted living and all the residents were forced to be vaxxed. No choice.

Didn't she have a choice to move to an assisted living facility that didn't care, instead of staying in one who "forced" a vaccine against a deadly virus on her? I imagine there was a choice to stay there and get the shot like everyone else in her facility, or go somewhere else.

 

[Michael Z]

From what I gather, I have heard that Covid19 is very similar in nature to the common cold, except for the great severity of symptoms of course. That said, when you get a cold, you are then usually immune for 6-12 mo, then you can catch it again. If you could catch a milder form of the cold with less severe symptoms (think vaccine), you then would be immune again, perhaps for another 6-12 mo, but then you would be at risk again. So without the vaccine you are at risk for the most severe symptoms, but you will need to re-vaccinate after a time. I am no health expert by any means, so correct me if I am wrong. That said, you better have all your ducks in a row and hope for the best if you do not get the vaccine due to concerns with the vaccines. And there are ways to be proactive without the vaccine like ample rest, Vitamin D, C, and zinc. Also, black cumin (black seed) may help. I know many younger and up to age 70 that did not recieve the vaccine and are fine, but know two friends of friends, fairly young, that did not get the vaccine and died from covid, one who was quite obese, with the other a fairly healthy man in his 30's. I personally know of no older folks that were vaccinated that had to be hospitalized. Personally, I got one shot of the Moderna so far with no side effects at all.

I am no health expert by any means, so correct me if I am wrong or offer your differing opinion. I won't be offended.

 

[Aneeda72]

From what I gather, I have heard that Covid19 is very similar in nature to the common cold, except for the great severity of symptoms of course. That said, when you get a cold, you are then usually immune for 6-12 mo, then you can catch it again. If you could catch a milder form of the cold with less severe symptoms (think vaccine), you then would be immune again, perhaps for another 6-12 mo, but then you would be at risk again. So without the vaccine you are at risk for the most severe symptoms, but you will need to re-vaccinate after a time. I am no health expert by any means, so correct me if I am wrong. That said, you better have all your ducks in a row and hope for the best if you do not get the vaccine due to concerns with the vaccines. And there are ways to be proactive without the vaccine like ample rest, Vitamin D, C, and zinc. Also, black cumin (black seed) may help. I know many younger and up to age 70 that did not recieve the vaccine and are fine, but know two friends of friends, fairly young, that did not get the vaccine and died from covid, one who was quite obese, with the other a fairly healthy man in his 30's. I personally know of no older folks that were vaccinated that had to be hospitalized. Personally, I got one shot of the Moderna so far with no side effects at all.

I am no health expert by any means, so correct me if I am wrong or offer your differing opinion. I won't be offended.

I never heard of millions of people dying from a common cold, so no, in my opinion, it’s not like a cold. It’s like a deadly virus that I‘d rather not have.

 

[hollydolly]

From what I gather, I have heard that Covid19 is very similar in nature to the common cold, except for the great severity of symptoms of course. That said, when you get a cold, you are then usually immune for 6-12 mo, then you can catch it again. If you could catch a milder form of the cold with less severe symptoms (think vaccine), you then would be immune again, perhaps for another 6-12 mo, but then you would be at risk again. So without the vaccine you are at risk for the most severe symptoms, but you will need to re-vaccinate after a time. I am no health expert by any means, so correct me if I am wrong. That said, you better have all your ducks in a row and hope for the best if you do not get the vaccine due to concerns with the vaccines. And there are ways to be proactive without the vaccine like ample rest, Vitamin D, C, and zinc. Also, black cumin (black seed) may help. I know many younger and up to age 70 that did not recieve the vaccine and are fine, but know two friends of friends, fairly young, that did not get the vaccine and died from covid, one who was quite obese, with the other a fairly healthy man in his 30's. I personally know of no older folks that were vaccinated that had to be hospitalized. Personally, I got one shot of the Moderna so far with no side effects at all.

I am no health expert by any means, so correct me if I am wrong or offer your differing opinion. I won't be offended.

I can assure you that when my O/H and I both contracted C-19 in March of 2020 within a few days of each other, it was nothing whatsoever like a cold.. It was like having the flu but double... in fact, my husband couldn't move from his bed for 16 days... this is a man who never misses a days work, and mostly he could barely breath, he sweated buckets, he couldn't eat..he was hallucinating at times..we were both absolutely freezing despite having as many duvets and blankets on the beds that we could possibly have, it was the weirdest thing, I've never had a situation like that happen where the body just cannot be warmed up...

...I was luckier than him, I recovered within a week...and aside from the 16 days in bed , he was still poorly for about a week after, and to this day, almost 18 months on he still hasn't regained his sense of smell or taste... and... that was a MILD version of C-19... So, NO, suffering from Covid-19 is Nothing like having a cold...

ETA on re-reading your post can see now where you're comparing the cold to the Virus in the sense of the vaccine

 

[bowmore]

I think Darwinism will take care of a lot of the anti-vaxxers. I resent these non vaccinated people take up space in our medical facilities.

 

[Aneeda72]

I think Darwinism will take care of a lot of the anti-vaxxers. I resent these non vaccinated people take up space in our medical facilities.

I agree, never thought I would, but I do.

 

[charry]

You're lucky to have had a choice! My mom's best friend is in assisted living and all the residents were forced to be vaxxed. No choice.

We all have a choice chic.....remember that xx

 

[Sunny]

Didn't she have a choice to move to an assisted living facility that didn't care, instead of staying in one who "forced" a vaccine against a deadly virus on her? I imagine there was a choice to stay there and get the shot like everyone else in her facility, or go somewhere else.

Exactly, Seabreeze. When this pandemic started, remember where most of the deaths occurred. It was in the nursing homes and assisted living facilities, not because they didn't care (at that early stage), but because they didn't know.

Any facility that housed a lot of elderly and/or sick people without protection against this virus should be shut down by the health department immediately.

So, chic, you really feel that people are "lucky" to get a chance to stay in a place that is likely to kill them, rather than getting one or two little shots in the arm?

 

[SeaBreeze]

Exactly, Seabreeze. When this pandemic started, remember where most of the deaths occurred. It was in the nursing homes and assisted living facilities, not because they didn't care (at that early stage), but because they didn't know.

Any facility that housed a lot of elderly and/or sick people without protection against this virus should be shut down by the health department immediately.

Very true Sunny. If my parents were in a facility like that and they did not make sure all workers, caregivers and residents there were fully vaccinated during a deadly worldwide pandemic, you can bet I'd have them out of there as soon as possible.

Why would anyone want their elderly relatives being cared for in a place like that if there were unvaccinated people spreading around a deadly virus? I would have enough love for my parents to make sure they were vaccinated and had some protection as not to die from a COVID-19 infection that could have been prevented.

Anyone who would keep a loved on in an assisted living facility, nursing home, etc. that did not follow the safety guidelines during a pandemic, needs to wake up to reality.

 

[chic]

Exactly, Seabreeze. When this pandemic started, remember where most of the deaths occurred. It was in the nursing homes and assisted living facilities, not because they didn't care (at that early stage), but because they didn't know.

Any facility that housed a lot of elderly and/or sick people without protection against this virus should be shut down by the health department immediately.

So, chic, you really feel that people are "lucky" to get a chance to stay in a place that is likely to kill them, rather than getting one or two little shots in the arm?

Her kids should take her out of there. They don't but they could. It would solve the issue for all of them.

 

[chic]

I can assure you that when my O/H and I both contracted C-19 in March of 2020 within a few days of each other, it was nothing whatsoever like a cold.. It was like having the flu but double... in fact, my husband couldn't move from his bed for 16 days... this is a man who never misses a days work, and mostly he could barely breath, he sweated buckets, he couldn't eat..he was hallucinating at times..we were both absolutely freezing despite having as many duvets and blankets on the beds that we could possibly have, it was the weirdest thing, I've never had a situation like that happen where the body just cannot be warmed up...

...I was luckier than him, I recovered within a week...and aside from the 16 days in bed , he was still poorly for about a week after, and to this day, almost 18 months on he still hasn't regained his sense of smell or taste... and... that was a MILD version of C-19... So, NO, suffering from Covid-19 is Nothing like having a cold...

ETA on re-reading your post can see now where you're comparing the cold to the Virus in the sense of the vaccine

Have his doctors dealt with his lack of taste and smell? It's been a very long time. They must have drawn some conclusion?