Chic, you seem to think that everybody is concerned only with whether THEY can still get Covid, even if they were vaccinated. Yes, for the umpteenth time, if you are vaccinated you can still get it, as an annoying but mild disease that will not kill you. But you are much less likely to get even that.
By now, it should be obvious that this disease affects our whole world negatively. Even if you are super-vaccinated, and 100% immune to the disease yourself, your world has changed for the worse because of the disease. Everybody's has. The economy has suffered greatly. Kids are barely getting an education, if at all. If your child is graduating from high school or college, they cannot have a normal in-person graduation in many places. Weddings and bar/bat mitzvahs are Zoom occasions. Elderly people are left alone, with no visitors. Social occasions such as proms have been cancelled, or are ghostly, masked events. Hospitals are brimming over with Covid patients taking up all the beds, so people with life-threatening cancer, heart, and kidney disease cannot be treated. Nursing homes and assisted living facilities have shut down. Medical personnel and first responders are exhausted.
Less important, but still pretty awful, thousands of stores, museums, and entertainment venues have closed. This affects us all, unless we normally live like hermits. The shipment of many goods has come to a halt.
Meanwhile, in other parts of the world, bodies are still piling up. People are desperate to get this "poisonous" or "experimental" vaccine (choose your scary adjective) that a shrinking but still significant number of people are refusing to get because of the influence of demagogues.
There is an enormous amount of mental depression, and general disgust with what this disease has done to our lives. And there is also a lot of disgust with those who are STILL doing their best to spread the fear of the vaccine via scaremongering.
Rules keep changing. We have to wear the hated masks, then we don't have to wear them everywhere any more, then maybe we do, yes and no, on and off. It is the anti-vaxxers who have done this to us. We are ALL affected by the stubbornness of those who refuse the vaccine, in most cases for political reasons.
As for "forcing" vaccinations on anyone, this is a fictitious bogeyman invented to bolster a case that is getting weaker and weaker. No one is forcing anything. If people would rather take their chances on dying or becoming gravely ill from a horrible disease, than get an amazingly safe and effective shot, or if they want to spend the rest of their life hiding in their home, no one is forcing the shot on them. You don't have armed goon squads breaking into your home carrying a vaccine that they can force on you.
Throwing the "forcing" nonsense around on social media like this does nothing to help anyone. It's like standing in front of a fireman trying to get into a burning building, in order to stop him from rescuing anyone.
For those who have been backing the wrong horse on this issue, there is no disgrace in rethinking something and realizing that due to circumstances, you have changed your mind. One reason some people held off on the vaccine was that it was too new, and its safety was "unproven." Well, it isn't that new any more. Clearly, it is at least partially effective against the disease, it is very effective against dying of it, and is incredibly safe, at least as much as any other shot against any other disease.
One final thought: Chic, if you are so against getting the vaccine, and are also against life-saving precautions (which you like to call "mandates" because it sounds more Machiavellian), why are you impelled to keep preaching to the choir? With just a few exceptions, as far as I can tell, most people on this forum have already been vaccinated. So who are you trying to convince? Us, or yourself?
, sooo what else is needed? @Murrmurr
