Interesting News Conference

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Regular TV programming was interrupted - The Mayor of San Francisco announced that the new Covid mutation has just been verified in a fully-vaccinated patient. Then a doctor described how the test was performed.
After the doctor's talk, the Mayor came back to the podium & said, "Everyone needs to get vaccinated." Then she said she would take questions.
A guy tried to ask her a question (we couldn't understand what he was saying). Instead of answering, she just looked at him, then they went back to regular programming. Maybe he asked the Mayor, "If the vaccine doesn't work, why are you telling us to get it?"
 

chic said:
If vaccinated people can still catch this why are they trying to mandate this vaccine? Wouldn't it be more sensible to redevlop it? 🤔
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I think CovSars is now mutating so fast they can't even hope to catch up with each new varient that comes along. I read that early examination of Omicron virus from infected people were all different, some having all the same characteristics, others having variations of delta and omicron and even newer mutated arrangements.

If it takes 100 days to get a new vaccine out, even so called 'tweaked' ones, there just won't be a workable solution. On the othe hand if this 'vaccine' is not really a vacine but an immune system inhancer against allSars, then it just might work.

I just wish they would be more honest with us. The days of the dumb unwashed masses being played down to are over.

I love the idea they can just 'tweak' all those vials of vaccine on the shelves worldwide. HAHA HA. If you believe that I've got some Van Gogh paintings in my attic on which I will give a special deal.
 
I did see on the news last evening about the new case in California about the vaccinated person. True that a vaccinated person did get the new mutated virus, but you seemed to have neglected to mention that the person who was fully vaccinated as has been the case with many other times that have been reported when vaccinated people have contracted Covid again that they are experiencing only mild symptoms. This was reported on my local news station last evening of the case that was reported in California. So I only imagine that is the one you speak of.
 
chic said:
If vaccinated people can still catch this why are they trying to mandate this vaccine? Wouldn't it be more sensible to redevlop it? 🤔
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Good grief, they have repeated a few zillion times that the "breakthrough" cases that vaccinated people occasionally get are very mild, the people just stay home and get over it in a few days. It's like having a bad cold, I'm sure no fun but infinitely better than months in a hospital hooked up to a ventilator in a coma, maybe dying, or if they do "recover," suffering long-term, possibly permanent damage to your body.

They have also found that vaccinated people are much less likely to pass the disease to other people, even if they are carrying the virus.

"Why are they trying to mandate this vaccine?" Are you serious?
 
Smiley Holly said:
I did see on the news last evening about the new case in California about the vaccinated person. True that a vaccinated person did get the new mutated virus, but you seemed to have neglected to mention that the person who was fully vaccinated as has been the case with many other times that have been reported when vaccinated people have contracted Covid again that they are experiencing only mild symptoms. This was reported on my local news station last evening of the case that was reported in California. So I only imagine that is the one you speak of.
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It's possible that unvaccinated people who get this variant will experience only mild symptoms, not enough time has passed for making comparisons.
 
Becky1951 said:
It's possible that unvaccinated people who get this variant will experience only mild symptoms, not enough time has passed for making comparisons.
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Of course it is. I am just referring to the case that is being referred to in this post. It is also possible for people to be carrying the virus without showing symptoms at all either vaccinated or unvaccinated. Once again I am just referring to this post that it was neglected to be reported that the person who contracted this new mutated virus in California who was vaccinated only had mild symptoms like the many other vaccinated people who have contracted the virus after being vaccinated. This is what has been showed that is a main difference in the vaccinated and unvaccinated. The majority of vaccinated people who have contracted the virus get mild symptoms and need no hospitalization while those unvaccinated are experience much more severe reactions and need much more care to treat the virus. It is a documented fact.
 
Smiley Holly said:
I did see on the news last evening about
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^This is how people get brainwashed by propaganda and think "millions of people are dying from a virus." 🙄

Looking at the facts is a better way to find out the truth that is right in front of us all and which isn't going away.
Here are some of the facts about the covid19 virus:
> Isolation apart from uncontaminated genetic material is a requirement to prove that a virus exists; <--
> A covid19 virus has never been isolated apart from uncontaminated genetic material, thus has never been proven to exist;
> No valid test has ever been developed for a virus, and certainly not for a covid19 virus;
> Kary Mullis, the inventor of the PCR test currently being used stated that it was not a valid test for a virus;
> Thus, none of the people who have been stated to have died from a covid19 virus have actually died from a covid19 virus.
 
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When we got covid (which was way before "vaccines" existed), it was pretty mild. And, we're older, and I'm diabetic, etc., etc., etc. What I'm saying is that not everyone is going to up and die or end up in a hospital on ventilators.

Also, it seems like the vaccines haven't been around long enough for the manufacturers to be able to state affirmatively that people who get vaccinated but go on to get covid won't get so ill. I mean, it's a great selling point and all that, but ...

Just sayin' ...
 
I can only state what I hear. I am not a Doctor or Nurse. The reports I have heard all along have stated that Covid Cases in the ER's of vaccinated people have been mild cases compared to those of unvaccinated people who have had to be hospitalized and treated. I am not saying this is 100% all cases because it is not, but the majority from what is reported and documented this is the case.
 
Actually, I have heard the opposite, not from reading elsewhere or watching TV, but from @Tom 86 here in the forums:

Tom 86 said:
I ask her when can I get my knee replaced? She said Tom honestly I have no idea. She said the hospital is filling up with vacanatated people that have had both shots. She said as you know our office is in the hospital & the infectious disease Drs are trying to figure out why so many people with both shots are now coming in 2 to 4 months after their shots.
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Also, there is beginning to be a very long list of people who have been injured and even died from the vaccines.

A List of World Class Athletes Who Died Or Suffered Severe Injuries After COVID-19 Vaccine​

https://rupreparing.com/news/2021/1...ffered-severe-injuries-after-covid-19-vaccine

https://kanekoa.substack.com/p/world-class-athletes-suffer-vaccine
 
Devi said:
Actually, I have heard the opposite, not from reading elsewhere or watching TV, but from @Tom 86 here in the forums:


Also, there is beginning to be a very long list of people who have been injured and even died from the vaccines.

A List of World Class Athletes Who Died Or Suffered Severe Injuries After COVID-19 Vaccine​

https://rupreparing.com/news/2021/1...ffered-severe-injuries-after-covid-19-vaccine
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I guess we all choose to get our source of information from different sources. I chose to to get mine from news sources that have been around for ages and others choose some other ways. I guess that is why the world has so many differences in the way people look at things.
 
Devi said:
Actually, I have heard the opposite, not from reading elsewhere or watching TV, but from @Tom 86 here in the forums:


Also, there is beginning to be a very long list of people who have been injured and even died from the vaccines.

A List of World Class Athletes Who Died Or Suffered Severe Injuries After COVID-19 Vaccine​

https://rupreparing.com/news/2021/11/18/a-list-of-world-class-athletes-who-odied-or-suffered-severe-injuries-after-covid-19-vaccine

https://kanekoa.substack.com/p/world-class-athletes-suffer-vaccine
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Nobody wants to hear about the professional athletes who have been hurt by the vaccines. They now say the vaccine had nothing to do with it. Did they bother to investigate or autopsy those who've died from it?
 
chic said:
Nobody wants to hear about the professional athletes who have been hurt by the vaccines. They now say the vaccine had nothing to do with it. Did they bother to investigate or autopsy those who've died from it?
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Of course they do; they can hardly say the deaths are due to the vaccines if they're pushing people to get them.

I only read the above posts; I did not look into any autopsies. I imagine more information may be forthcoming. Maybe.
 
Devi said:
Of course they do; they can hardly say the deaths are due to the vaccines if they're pushing people to get them.

I only read the above posts; I did not look into any autopsies. I imagine more information may be forthcoming. Maybe.
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"They can hardly say the deaths are due to the vaccines if they're pushing people to get them."
I'm absolutely amazed that many people don't get that.
 
Devi said:
Of course they do; they can hardly say the deaths are due to the vaccines if they're pushing people to get them.

I only read the above posts; I did not look into any autopsies. I imagine more information may be forthcoming. Maybe.
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VAERS would be the only hope for getting this information. Every latest news item I see on this and subjects like it is that the vaccine does not cause heart attacks or blood clots and they just deny those athletes' vaccination status had anything to do with their deaths but they offer no proof of that which would be a comfort.
 
All I know is what my surgeon's nurse told me WHY I can't get my knee replaced. Their office is in the hospital. As I have to go in a different door than the main one but all Surgeons, Orthopedic & urology are in this section of the hospital. My surgeon would know why I can't get into surgery.
 
Tom 86 said:
All I know is what my surgeon's nurse told me WHY I can't get my knee replaced. Their office is in the hospital. As I have to go in a different door than the main one but all Surgeons, Orthopedic & urology are in this section of the hospital. My surgeon would know why I can't get into surgery.
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Exactly. I do hope you get in soon-ish, though.
 
Devi said:
When we got covid (which was way before "vaccines" existed), it was pretty mild. And, we're older, and I'm diabetic, etc., etc., etc. What I'm saying is that not everyone is going to up and die or end up in a hospital on ventilators.

Also, it seems like the vaccines haven't been around long enough for the manufacturers to be able to state affirmatively that people who get vaccinated but go on to get covid won't get so ill. I mean, it's a great selling point and all that, but ...

Just sayin' ...
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I think as with many items you can chose to believe anything .... i believe the data being used to make claims is at best questionable...

I had covid early on ... i had risk factors and zero issues with it at all only very mild symptoms of cough and a week with no taste/ smell

I have seen IN person people who have had a terrible time with almost no co-conditions.... so when they sell the vaccine with "yeah you can get it but it will be mild" or my favorite vaccinated saying "yeah i was really ill but if i had not got the shot i would have died' i have to ask really?

Look it up fully vaccinated ARE being hospitalized / are dying ( the excuse is often they had other conditions) the same excuse given at first BEFORE vaccines for why some died and some did NOT .......
maybe they have better chance then un-vaccinated ... maybe not
Maybe they could handle it better like myself and others. Who is doing studies on that .? we were told early on Vitamin D may have a part in how people handle it ......now that is being dismissed but was not refuted in studies

there is NO way to prove a negative..... some people respond better ....FROM the beginning not after vaccines only..

we were told the A-symptomatic were the problem, the enemy that would spread this.... the reason we ALL must mask up and close down businesses and such.......
NOW we are told the vaccine will most likely make you A-symptomatic ....... does anyone see the irony.
 
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