Problems with Doctors Harming Patients

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DOCTORS WHO GET AWAY WITH KILLING AND MAIMING MUST BE STOPPED
By ANDREW STEIN FEB. 2,1986 About the Archive

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DOCTORS WHO GET AWAY WITH KILLING AND MAIMING MUST BE STOPPED - The New York Times

In the case of the medical profession, however, the opposite seems to be happening. Doctors' lobbies are effectively convincing many state legislatures that the doctor for gross negligence raises tough legal questions, they are the same ones "prosecutors are called upon to answer with regard to many other professionals in our society.”

Based on his own experience, Mr. Giuliani says that "the licensing procedures, and the procedures that are used for the removal of licenses ... just don't work, and really are pretty close to a disaster in this state and in many others."
Obviously, the overwhelming majority of doctors are competent, caring professionals. But that might not matter much if you have to be treated in a hospital.

American doctors are killing and maiming thousands of patients every year - and, for the most part, they are getting away with it. It is time that we in government, and the medical profession, came up with some remedies for this national tragedy.

The Ralph Nader organization’s Health Research Group estimates that as many as 200,000 Americans are injured or killed in hospitals each year as a result of negligent care.

The way to deal with the problem is to discipline the victims of malpractice (through legal reform) instead of the negligent doctors.
It is virtually unheard of for a doctor to be prosecuted, even when patients die as a consequence of gross negligence. Doctors also seem immune to any serious professional discipline. There are surely more than 20,000 grossly incompetent physicians nationwide, yet the licenses of only 260 doctors were revoked in 1984.

New York has one of the poorest records for medical discipline. In 1984, only 23 doctors in this state -out of more than 42,000 currently practicing - lost their licenses. And virtually ail revocations were for nonmedical offenses, such as fraud, assault or drug abuse.
It's reasonable to assume that New York has a proportionate share of the nation's incompetent doctors. Yet those estimated 2,000 to 3,000 bad doctors have little fear of being penalized for the damage they inflict on patients. One reason is that the state's medical discipline system is too cumbersome, involving four separate review processes that have to wind their way through both the Department of Health and the Board of Regents. Another reason is that good physicians almost never report instances of medical misconduct to the appropriate authorities - although they are required to do so by law. Of 1,567 incidents of medical misconduct referred to New York State investigators last year, only 38 were reported by doctors and five by medical societies.

The suffering caused by negligent medical practice in this country and in the state is simply unacceptable -and the failure to crack down on incompetent doctors constitutes a scandal.

Among the reasons I held a public hearing on the problem last month was to give the victims of malpractice and their families a chance to be heard for the first time in a public forum. What we heard were eloquent pleas for justice. Parents who lost children because of medical negligence said they wanted accountability from the profession, not a check from an insurance company. And they asked why a doctor who causes the death of a patient through gross negligence, as defined by criminal law, should be any more immune from criminal prosecution than, say, the operator of a crane who negligently injures a passerby. Some prosecutors are beginning to recognize that more effective sanctions are now needed to protect the public. United States Attorney Rudolph W. Giuliani has argued that "the medical profession has
instances of medical misconduct to the appropriate authorities - although they are required to do so by law. Of 1,567 incidents of medical misconduct referred to New York State investigators last year, only 38 were reported by doctors and five by medical societies.
The suffering caused by negligent medical practice in this country and in the state is simply unacceptable -and the failure to crack down on incompetent doctors constitutes a scandal.

Among the reasons I held a public hearing on the problem last month was to give the victims of malpractice and their families a chance to be heard for the first time in a public forum. What we heard were eloquent pleas for justice. Parents who lost children because of medical negligence said they wanted accountability from the profession, not a check from an insurance company. And they asked why a doctor who causes the death of a patient through gross negligence, as defined by criminal law, should be any more immune from criminal prosecution than, say, the operator of a crane who negligently injures a passerby. Some prosecutors are beginning to recognize that more effective sanctions are now needed to protect the public. United States Attorney Rudolph W. Giuliani has argued that "the medical profession has
gotten more immunity than is helpful to it." He also notes that while prosecuting an emergency room, particularly on a weekend when the experienced, competent doctors are in short supply. Nor is it much consolation to know that 90 percent or 95 percent of our doctors are competent if the good doctors ignore their obligation to rid the profession of those who continue to do so much damage.
It is this problem of accountability that public officials must now grapple with. The state can start by streamlining its procedures for medical discipline and licensing, giving full responsibility to one government agency and making sure that that the agency has adequate professional staff and investigative powers. And the profession itself must also break down the code of silence that now leads doctors to cover up for their impaired and incompetent colleagues.

Our society has allowed the medical profession to become a priesthood, answerable only to itself. One consequence is the so-called malpractice crisis. The crisis won’t be solved by legal reform or by limiting the amount a victim can collect from an insurance company. It can only be solved by disciplining the doctors guilty of negligent care.

Dr. Arnold Reiman, editor of the New England Journal of Medicine, believes that at least 20,000 grossly incompetent or negligent doctors continue to practice in this country - and that the figure may in fact be twice as high.

One might expect such revelations to create a great public outcry, leading to legislative remedies and tighter control of the profession. In recent years, as the number of injuries and deaths caused by drunken drivers reached intolerable levels, the victims and their families successfully raised public awareness about the problem. Eventually, state legislatures passed tough new laws aimed at those responsible for the mayhem.
 

It happens, but probably less than we think. Several cases of skin doctors diagnosing cancer every time when it was not there are documented on American Greed. Also, some cases of prescription writers operating their own "pain clinics" are shown on American Greed. In all the cases documented, these were private clinics - seems these are more easy to do such malpractice and not be caught.

I have a concern with self-referrals. For example, the urologist that finds your prostate cancer also then recommends the surgery that he then performs. With such conflict of interest it is very easy to end up with over-treatment.
 
Since I've had extensive dental issues, I've had the misfortune to be harmed by both greedy and incompetent dentists, as well as a pathetically-useless Dental Board that protects dentists while providing an illusion of protecting patients.
The most serious harm was 4 years ago when a dentist did an incomplete & incompetent root canal that resulted in me spending several days in Intensive Care for Sepsis which could have been fatal.
The other issues involved pure greed, including intentional sabotage of a bridge when I didn't choose a more-invasive & more-expensive implant. I had to have the bridge re-done & the dentist was forced to refund me $3,000.00.
More recently, I started having a toothache & the first dentist I saw diagnosed "Severe decay under ALL my crowns" (all 30 of them). He recommended extracting all my teeth & having complete upper & lower implants - 12 month procedure & $40,000.00.
A 2nd opinion dentist diagnosed ONE infected tooth that needed a root canal, extracting the one next to it, & a bridge, which I just had completed. $4,700.00.
Remember: Where there is money, there is greed. Be careful.
 
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Doctors must go to symposiums and conferences on a regular basis in the U.S. and re-certify in order to remain in practice. It's common for people to sue those in the medical profession, but not easy to prove since it doesn't happen as often as the OP would have you believe. There are mitigating circumstances that the article posted does not address. Yes, it does happen and I've witnessed gross negligence from one or two doctors and did something about it. Nurses do help to keep them honest.
 
The few times I have a reason to visit a doctor, I spend some time, beforehand, researching my symptoms on web sites such as MayoClinic, WebMD, etc. That way, I have some idea of just how accurate the doctors "opinion" might be, and what kind of questions to ask, etc. Then, if they tell me something I haven't heard of, I research that. also.

Doctors are human, and make mistakes....plus, often they seem to be in a "rush"....especially now with all this Covid stuff. A person needs to educate themselves as much as possible if they want to avoid any problems with medical treatment.

Prescription drugs, IMO, offer the biggest risk for making matters worse. A person should Always do some research on any drugs they need to take....side effects, interactions with other drugs, etc., etc.
 
The ops post about an article that was published 36 years ago then digitalized with no correction in 1996. The span of 36 years & the problem hasn't improved even now in 2021.

A little digging I found this. The article is to long to post, this is just ahead of more in depth information.

10% of all U.S. deaths are now due to medical error. (Johns Hopkins)

99% of physicians face at least one lawsuit by age 65. (New England Journal of Medicine)

North Dakota had the lowest amount of medical malpractice in the US. (126 reports) (NPDB)
https://etactics.com/blog/medical-malpractice-statistics

I can relate since I had cervical spine complete rebuild. The surgeon didn't get the correction right when pinning the discs between c-3 & c-7.
There is a curvature between c-3 & c-6 that is compressing the nerves affecting my left arm & hand. Other than using the left hand as a platform for holding something it is useless.

I got a second opinion about correcting it. Bad news he could correct it but because there is scar tissue on the back where he would normally cut he can't cut there. He could go through the front of my throat but the risk was greater & there is no guarantee that the nerves would regenerate.

I didn't consider filing a law suit.
 
I have a concern with self-referrals. For example, the urologist that finds your prostate cancer also then recommends the surgery that he then performs. With such conflict of interest it is very easy to end up with over-treatment.

Agree with what you're saying, but, having some experience with prostate cancer (PCa), I and would like to briefly inform and offer further, for others sake, some advice in general.

Doctors are going to be bias towards the thing they do. Surgeons will lean towards surgery, radiologists towards RT. etc.

That said, ask if it's ok to get a second opinion. Ask, and do have your slides examined by another pathologist.

Whatever treatment is decided on after a thorough study and understanding, then it should be preformed by the most experienced and gifted specialist one can find and afford. It becomes more important for significant PCa in younger men.

Best advice I can give is be your own advocate. Doctors are human and make mistakes. Only a small percentage are unethical.

Apologies to Mitch if I hijacked the thread. This is a important issue.
 
i spent 2 years doing credentialing for an insurance company where you check license / insurance schooling and yes every complaint and lawsuit...
every doctor who took this insurance (private company admin for medicaid and medicare coverage) had to be researched every 3 years
while i did see some bad outcomes i would fault the patient for not disclosing items many serious mistakes and harm do happen

As Knight noted: 10% of all U.S. deaths are now due to medical error. (Johns Hopkins)
that is very alarming.
I don't think all the people who can sue do it is a huge long process and by the time a case is heard and lawyers take their cut many find it NOT worth the effort.
 
I detest WebMD for a variety of reasons. First, it addresses symptoms in general not the individual personally and can be very misleading. Some people come away from that site thinking they are more expert than those of us in the medical profession. Secondly, some symptoms are similar and while the individual may be experiencing some, he/she draws the wrong conclusions since they may be masking another problem altogether. In toto, it is quite misleading and anyone who is not well should seek help from a hospital in finding the correct doctor. All hospitals have a staff who can lead you to an accredited physician who can properly treat you or send you to a consulting doctor. Also, always get more than one or two opinions before making a big medical decision. Regardless of how much you like or trust a doctor.
 


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