Life before all this technology, (was it better,.....?)

I read George Orwell and Aldous Huxley's book back in the '70s, and was convinced that they foretold the future. It's my observation that people have much more propensity to speak their mind nowadays, more than ever....and I might add, more than they ought to.
Over here the opposite is being said, and some of those in favour of "cancel culture" claim what a good thing it is, (gives me a weird feeling that such people, or "influencers" as I think they're called, have such a firm belief in their right to say or know what the rest of us should see or hear!). :(
 

Without Technology, we would be bored, with nothing to do!

Sit at a computer and start surfing, visit a forum or 2, before
you know it, several hours have passed.

I watched my father deteriorate and die of boredom, there was
no technology such as these little mighty machines that we are
using to print on to a screen in our own homes, but the same
words, will be available to be read all around the world, as soon
as we hit the enter button.

So technology has improved all of our senses, the only down is
that there is no physical exercise involved, some of us worked in
jobs where physical effort was needed to get things done, then
we retired into a chair at a computer, where we lost the inclination
to do exercise, but the brain is well looked after.

Mike.
 
A reason backpacking days into natural wilderness areas is popular. Isolated from the rest of the world, out of phone carrier range, one carries all the gear and food on one's back, experiencing nature like our remote creaturely ancestors, sleeping out under the immense nightly universe. Tent last July in Yosemite National Park.
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Perhaps I'm just spoiled, but I never got the point of sleeping on the cold hard ground when I have a perfectly good bed at home.

Camping in a camper is OK, but tents on the hard ground with bugs and maybe wild animals -- just no. Once upon a time I got roped into it, with husband and kids and the whole back-to-nature family outing thing you know--"try it, it'll be fun." Not only was it not fun, but I think I'd crawl over broken glass not to have to do that again. Husband maybe got back to nature, but I still had everything to do-- cook, wash dishes, clean up, try to keep assorted kids from wandering off and getting lost or falling out of trees, drowning, being bitten by snakes or eaten by bears, but I had to do it all without benefit of hot water, electricity or proper toilets.
 

I think I value technology more as I got older. Now that I have issues with walking and do not own a car, technology is important to me. Mainly the computer and being able to shop online, have groceries delivered, pay bills online, talk to my family and friends (some who I had lost contact with long ago) and meet new people. When I have a question, I can research it online quickly and find the answer immediately. And that I have done many times!

I do not have a "smart home" or whatever you call it. I am a computer person, not a phone person. I have never liked talking on a phone and would rather write than talk. My television is not a big one, though it is a flat screen. I watch it with the Fire Stick and Amazon Prime membership only.

In my apartment building of senior citizens, I am in the minority of being online. People come to me to print things out or to find something online they want to buy. They ask where I bought something and it is always on Amazon or Walmart online. I save money by shopping online. And I can find whatever I want in any size or color somewhere online.

My internet and telephone does not run that much at all. About $60. a month. Worth every penny for me. I lived without conveniences before I moved here, but I always had computers and the internet. I sold online and selling on eBay and Amazon was like making money while you slept. Every morning I would wake up to money in PayPal. So technology is a good thing for many people for many different reasons. I figure if you don't use it you will get left behind.
 
I read something this morning in a book called, "The Rules Of Contagion" by Adam Kucharski. It talks about Smart Homes, smart speakers, smart TV and smart everything else. As you know you can get a virus in your computer that can lock all your files. Well, you can also get a virus that can lock everything in your house. According to the author it has happened. Imagine your house where your stove is on and you can't shut if off. Your garage is locked and you can't get in. Your house lights are off and you cannot put them on. Funny, hey? Not really and suddenly your home is not all that "smart!"

The nerds have even figured out how to control your bluetooth devices from their computers. Remember this the next time you are you see these smart bulbs for sale. Anyway, a good virus program is a good investment. I use McAfee and renew every year but there are others out there. Apparently, virus come into our wifi via e-mail attachments or downloads.
 

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There was a lot of hacking vehicles a few years back, where the
hacker was able to steer the vehicle while it was moving, but I
have never heard any more since those few reports back then.

Maybe it wasn't true, or maybe the manufacturers have fixed it
and you can't do it any more.

Mike.
 
Just think back to what medicine, and particularly dentristry, were like in our childhood. Would you want to go back to those days? I sure wouldn't!

We do have to be careful with technology, but there were plenty of scam artists in previous centuries also. The "good old days" were good only in our rose-colored dreams. People were middle-aged in their 30's, and probably dead in their 50's. And leaving Covid out of it, think of all those diseases people were dying from, which they usually don't any more.

For families that live apart from each other, Zoom and other communication brainstorms are wonderful! That's how my family is meeting later today to say Merry Christmas to each other, connecting California, New York, Pennsylvania, Oklahoma, and Maryland. Imagine what a miracle that would have been in the pre-technology days!
 
The only issue with this is, far to many just regurgitate what they have heard from others, with no clue as to whether it is true or not. It's not that hard to fact check information these day's, but few do. There are many areas of technology that I find helpful, and fascinating. There are others that I find very disturbing. There are untruths, that through sheer force of repetition, become considered to be true. It used to be that the village idiot was just ignored. Now they appear to be put on pedestals, and made into heroes. Sometimes I miss the simpler life of my past, but as said above, you can't go back. Mike

It's my observation that people have much more propensity to speak their mind nowadays, more than ever....and I might add, more than they ought to.
 
The only issue with this is, far to many just regurgitate what they have heard from others, with no clue as to whether it is true or not. It's not that hard to fact check information these day's, but few do. There are many areas of technology that I find helpful, and fascinating. There are others that I find very disturbing. There are untruths, that through sheer force of repetition, become considered to be true. It used to be that the village idiot was just ignored. Now they appear to be put on pedestals, and made into heroes. Sometimes I miss the simpler life of my past, but as said above, you can't go back. Mike
That was a huge issue with me, after my ex slandered me 20 ways to next Tuesday, during our divorce.

I had a poster hanging on the wall, said: "A lie unchallanged becomes the truth"
 
That was a huge issue with me, after my ex slandered me 20 ways to next Tuesday, during our divorce.
I had a poster hanging on the hall, said: "A lie unchallanged becomes the truth"
I'm glad you brought this up, (not that I'm glad this happened to you of course), because I wanted to mention the way parenthood has been undermined as an example of "progress" I'd like to see reversed!
During my battles to try to stay in contact with my one child, (then aged twelve), an appearance at a court sponsored meeting occurred, where my daughter was sat opposite to me on one of four chairs, arranged in a square or diamond, (if you see what I mean).

Two court officers sat on the other two chairs, (who were trained no doubt to deal with children where their parents are in conflict over them).

My daughter was then invited to say what was wrong with me, the contact I had with her, and even her feelings or lack of feelings towards me.

In my view the courts thus gave my child an opportunity to pillory her father, and she was no doubt told "this was her right",(or at least her right to comment, which can amount to the same thing).

I declined the opportunity to say to my daughter, "even though you said you hated me, and I was horrible often enough during our weekly/fortnightly contact visits, you then went on to say, "Keep coming daddy didn't you", (because I don't believe it right to be expected to defend yourself in this way in front of strangers, even if I imagined they'd listen).

The male court welfare officer, a wisend looking chap, was sufficiently convinced he'd understood everything about our relationship within five minutes declared, "I can see there's no positive relationship between you"", and the woman court welfare officer agreed with him, (who just happened to be pregnant so couldn't be cross examined when her report got back to court because of maternity leave).

I've bored you all with this on a thread having nothing to do with fathers/parental rights etc., for this reason, "The undermining of the institution of marriage, (for good or ill for the men and women involved), has consequences well beyond those two people involved, obviously especially where children are involved, but beyond even that I believe".

A child being shown those in authority may think its okay to denigrate one of your parents, and in front of them, is not benign. Even the setting up of the chairs was a significant factor I believe, not having my child on the chair beside me, as though those two officers had to be between us or come between us, and my daughter had the same status as myself which she should have in my view, or else I become at least equal to a child, (and I'd argue I'm being treated as a child by those court officers).

Beyond that it speaks to truthfulness, and whether you're believed by those in authority when you speak the truth, (as I did when I said I beloved my child enjoyed the contact, and much as she told the court officers she didn't see me as her father she couldn't stop herself calling me "dad"!).

Lying helps you win is one of the messages to pick up on here, "in the modern world", and "government appointed officials can reach right into our private lives,", (undermining and destroying them in my view as I've said!).
 
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Eintein published many important papers when he was just 26.

Science would never be the same.

Ten years later, Einstein shook the physics world even further by theorizing that space and time are dynamic and distorted, affecting how objects and light move.

This supposition was his general theory of relativity - his unified description of gravity.

Three major inventions derived from Einstein's discoveries​

But these theories weren't confined to the lab.

Since Einstein gave his lectures, what impact have his discoveries had on our everyday lives in the century?

1. Satnavs and Google Maps

It's hard to get lost these days because of GPS - it's what allows our satnavs (satellite navigation systems) and smartphone map apps to tell us the quickest route to the restaurant or the beach.

But if it weren't for Einstein's general theory of relativity, we wouldn't know to take relativity's effects into account when synchronizing the network of Global Positioning System (GPS) satellites orbiting the Earth.

This fact means their data would be filled with errors, making GPS more or less useless.

2. Your phone's clock

Most ISPs and mobile phone masts use GPS to set the time. And with each GPS satellite containing several atomic clocks, the clocks on your computer and mobile phone are ultra-accurate.

Without that accuracy, you'd probably be late (or early) for every meeting.

There's more.

3. Lasers

  • What makes a supermarket's doors open automatically as you approach?
  • Why do home security systems alert you to the presence of an intruder?
  • How do smoke alarms detect fires?
Lasers are crucial to all these inventions and more.

Einstein's 1916 discovery of the physical principle was responsible for the light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation (the long-winded way of saying laser) that made these devices possible.

These are just three examples - there's virtually no corner of science and technology that hasn't experienced the Einstein effect, from supercomputers and supernovas to nuclear weapons and the Big Bang.

And in our ever-more-digital world, what happens in the lab is never far from everyday life.
 
Just think back to what medicine, and particularly dentristry, were like in our childhood. Would you want to go back to those days? I sure wouldn't!

We do have to be careful with technology, but there were plenty of scam artists in previous centuries also. The "good old days" were good only in our rose-colored dreams. People were middle-aged in their 30's, and probably dead in their 50's. And leaving Covid out of it, think of all those diseases people were dying from, which they usually don't any more.

For families that live apart from each other, Zoom and other communication brainstorms are wonderful! That's how my family is meeting later today to say Merry Christmas to each other, connecting California, New York, Pennsylvania, Oklahoma, and Maryland. Imagine what a miracle that would have been in the pre-technology days!
You are right about those "good ole' days." Life wasn't all roses and shineshine. Not everyone lived like the Waltons on TV and there were plenty of problems too. I suppose we can look at those good ole days through rose-coloured glasses. Our parents and grandparents had their troubles and so do we; it's just that those problems are different.
 
I think I value technology more as I got older. Now that I have issues with walking and do not own a car, technology is important to me. Mainly the computer and being able to shop online, have groceries delivered, pay bills online, talk to my family and friends (some who I had lost contact with long ago) and meet new people. When I have a question, I can research it online quickly and find the answer immediately. And that I have done many times!

I do not have a "smart home" or whatever you call it. I am a computer person, not a phone person. I have never liked talking on a phone and would rather write than talk. My television is not a big one, though it is a flat screen. I watch it with the Fire Stick and Amazon Prime membership only.

In my apartment building of senior citizens, I am in the minority of being online. People come to me to print things out or to find something online they want to buy. They ask where I bought something and it is always on Amazon or Walmart online. I save money by shopping online. And I can find whatever I want in any size or color somewhere online.

My internet and telephone does not run that much at all. About $60. a month. Worth every penny for me. I lived without conveniences before I moved here, but I always had computers and the internet. I sold online and selling on eBay and Amazon was like making money while you slept. Every morning I would wake up to money in PayPal. So technology is a good thing for many people for many different reasons. I figure if you don't use it you will get left behind.
Agreed! My life is greatly enhanced by technology!
 
You are right about those "good ole' days." Life wasn't all roses and shineshine. Not everyone lived like the Waltons on TV and there were plenty of problems too. I suppose we can look at those good ole days through rose-coloured glasses. Our parents and grandparents had their troubles and so do we; it's just that those problems are different.
"Wartime" being one of them my parents talked about (obviously!), but connected to things being "better" even then in one aspect at least, my mother said the prospect of our being invaded brought the whole country together and neighbours who hadn't spoken to one another for years suddenly wished to be friends etc. :)💂‍♂️
 
I have to agree with many on both sides on this one. We live in a world that has never had this freedom of information at your fingertips. Instant communications to wherever you need to call / communicate
AND still have places like where I live to visit or live ...to be in nature.
I like it....
 
I have to agree with many on both sides on this one. We live in a world that has never had this freedom of information at your fingertips. Instant communications to wherever you need to call / communicate
AND still have places like where I live to visit or live ...to be in nature.
I like it....
I think you are right/wise to point out there are good arguments on both sides of this debate, and the biggest truism is you can't go back to before all this technology crept into our lives, (or even its a fact you can't go back unless everything in life unravels due to some catastrophy?). :)
 
Technology, has, for the most part, improved our lives, IMO. Most things we use....cars, household appliances, etc., are much more reliable, and last longer than they did; 50+ years ago....due to improved technology and manufacturing. Our heath is better now, due to technology....proven by the ever increasing life spans.

However, getting "wrapped up" in all of todays gadgets can be a nuisance. That's why I like living in the boondocks...whenever I get my fill of TV, Internet, etc., I can go outdoors and spend some time in the forest, and clear my mind.
 
Posed OP question is overly broad. A long list of both negatives and positives depending on narrow specifics. One might expect most of our human ancestors centuries in the past across the planet, even if told about the negatives, would pay a king's ransom to be able to experience many things we just consider ho hum. Heck in a time machine going back, just giving a king and his court a few sizzling warm bags of fast food fries, burgers, and milk shakes would make one an instant lord.
 
Posed OP question is overly broad. A long list of both negatives and positives depending on narrow specifics. One might expect most of our human ancestors centuries in the past across the planet, even if told about the negatives, would pay a king's ransom to be able to experience many things we just consider ho hum. Heck in a time machine going back, just giving a king and his court a few sizzling warm bags of fast food fries, burgers, and milk shakes would make one an instant lord.
"You can blame me for that", (oh you just did!).

My advice, should you use the aforementioned time machine, is be careful what you offer a king, (and his court), because you might just lose your head if they're disappointed!!!! :)
 
A couple of months ago I had to get through 10 days without the internet, due to a power/service outage in this area. It was a nightmare. As I work online I lost 10 work days, couldn't communicate with anybody, couldn't read the news, and topping it off my phone konked out for a period of time too.
Oh, I forgot to add- because the power/service outage left me without internet for 10 days the internet company gave me a $17 discount on my bill.. and then charged me $12 because my payment was late :mad::mad::mad:
 

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