Racism and Racists

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Shero said:
Oh how my heart bleeds (not) for all the white people who feel they have been subjected to racism.
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I understand what you are saying, the majority or ruling class are less adversely impacted by racism. So it is less of a practical problem. And sometimes it can almost feel good, a kind of revenge I guess. However I think it comes from a similar problematic instinct.

I believe we'd be better off without it at all.
 

All but 2 of my K12 schooling was in suburban California track home communities. In those 13 years till mid 60s, I went to 11 different schools as family moved about. Yeah lived a lot of place and maybe thats why I'm good talking to strangers haha. In all that time I could recall just 2 African Americans attending any of those schools and none in my classes. Speaks to policies of powerful real estate and bank loan lending corporations, a world apart, media wisely chose to ignore. Those money people knew a minor number of clients might not prefer to live near other races. That of course will always be true for minor numbers of people. So bean counter's demanded ethnic considerations letting only acceptable in their minds people buy into real estate in certain areas, so prices and profits would be higher.

The first time I ever got to meet AA's was at Lackland AFB in San Antonio for basic training. In the military during the war as low grade peons, one was like a robot working and communicating with other Americans from A to Z of all economic and cultural backgrounds from all regions. Regions that varied enormously in racial behaviors. Quite a reality check. Where I was brought up, I missed all of that except for what was written in news and magazine articles. Where racial hatred was strong in 1969 the difference in levels of racial animosity today can't compare to what it was back then including its acceptable openess. IMO only with the passing of damaged generations will it fade.
 
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Nosy Bee-54 said:
"Today, well over half a century since the civil rights movement fought for the principle that separate is inherently unequal, real estate industry practices and local public policies have not been held accountable for making very little progress on integrating our neighborhoods.

After World War II, loans guaranteed by the Federal Housing Administration and the Department of Veterans Affairs opened up the possibility of homeownership (and wealth-building) to millions of American households. However, these loan programs were explicitly structured to exclude Black people and to favor particular places: the newly minted suburbs.

Even after decades of growing diversity and spatial mobility, most Americans still live in racially segregated neighborhoods."

https://www.brookings.edu/essay/tre...ning-racial-and-economic-injustice-in-the-us/
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I for one don't live in a racially segregated neighborhood. A long time ago it was. The suburb I live in is totally mixed with every kind of ethnicity and race. Even the city I grew up in is now totally mixed, too. Most people here accept that we are all of the same race--the human race.

When people do their ancestry they will see we all originated from the same place( s). We really are all brothers and sisters.
 
hollydolly said:
I've even heard of Black being prejudice against other blacks.. because of the shade of their skin or as with South Asians, prejudice against Caste , and they suffer from the effects of prejudice and racism in just the same manner and sometimes worse than if it was coming from another race..
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This is very true. I spent some years in Africa and the people there are very tribal. They hold each other in contempt simply because they are a slightly different shape.
As has already been stated....the word 'racist' is over-used and used too quickly to condemn someone.
Something I find curious....growing up in the 60's, there were many black people in the entertainment industry.....Shirley Bassey, the Motown bands, etc. We just accepted the fact that they were black, and their music was based on African rhythms. These days we seem to be more aware of a person's skin colour, not less. Is it the media who are stirring things up?
 
hollydolly said:
that's really interesting, there can't be many people still alive ( no offence) who can say they lived and witnessed racism such as segregation...
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Not necessarily. I am only 64 and I witnessed segregation and de-segregation. In the 60's I saw Black people laying in the streets in Greensboro, NC because they could only bus trays in a restaurant and could not actually eat in the restaurant. I was just a young kid but I knew it was wrong. :(

In Junior High, during integration, I was bused across town to a primarily black and hispanic school, even though I had a school nearby. This was an attempt at de-segregation. There were riots almost every day. Blonde girls used to have their hair cut off. I could never go to the bathroom for fear that my head would be stuck down the toilet.

I had a very close black friend, Virgil, who used to tell me when there was going to be a riot. We used to go outside for lunch and he used to let me know that it was time to leave because violence was beginning.

Fridays meant that if you were white and were walking by yourself you would get hit in the face. I did, one Friday.

In hindsight, I have no resentment over this. This was just a poor attempt at our government trying to force integration upon us without thinking about the consequences. So many mistakes over so many decades.
 
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Please take time to watch this video...and there are many many more on Youtube.. this is an African American family, who have lived and worked in the Uk for over a year, and their experiences of it, including any racism they may or may not have met... they will explain in this video to their fellow countrymen in the USA their experiences living here in England



 
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One of the big problems at the moment is the fact that non-whites are living in a white society and they have become over-sensitive to the race issue. Any criticism or complaint is deemed to be because of their race, when it may not be a factor at all. This is especially true of those in the public eye.
Anthropologists state that there are definite differences between the races....mentally as well as physically.I should like to expand on this subject but I'm afraid I'll probably be accused of being racist!
 
Lavinia said:
One of the big problems at the moment is the fact that non-whites are living in a white society and they have become over-sensitive to the race issue. Any criticism or complaint is deemed to be because of their race, when it may not be a factor at all. This is especially true of those in the public eye.
Anthropologists state that there are definite differences between the races....mentally as well as physically.I should like to expand on this subject but I'm afraid I'll probably be accused of being racist!
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actually yes you may well. I remember a while back posting a video about an American family living in the UK who made videos for their American kinfolk...explaining their lifestyle in the UK compared to the USA.. ..and I was accused by a member here of being anti-American... :ROFLMAO:....just ridiculous of course.. I just believed that those who had never been to the UK would like to hear what other Americans think of the UK.. whether good or not so good ..but no I was verbally attacked for being 'anti -American, just for posting a comparison video.. :rolleyes:
 
David777 said:
IMO only with the passing of damaged generations will it fade.
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Yep, that does seem to be what it takes. Here is the progress I have seen within my own family (true story):
  • My great great grandparents were slave owners
  • My great grandfather participated in a lynching
  • My grandparents considered themselves liberal on civil rights, but in that day it just meant not joining the KKK or supporting violence against blacks, things like school integration "race mixing" was a step too far for them.
  • My father supported civil rights at least conceptually, but thought some of the laws took away too many white rights. My mother however was very supportive of civil rights.
  • I try
  • My niece is married to a black man and he fits into the family just fine.
I think that really is progress, and not too far from the average American family. However, it sure is taking a long time, timeline covers over 150 years. If I were on the other side of it all I would not be happy about that...
 
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Lavinia said:
One of the big problems at the moment is the fact that non-whites are living in a white society and they have become over-sensitive to the race issue. Any criticism or complaint is deemed to be because of their race, when it may not be a factor at all. This is especially true of those in the public eye.
Anthropologists state that there are definite differences between the races....mentally as well as physically.I should like to expand on this subject but I'm afraid I'll probably be accused of being racist!
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Please do not hold back. I have a Masters Degree from a British University in Archaeology and anthropology and I would love very much to hear what you have to say!
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hollydolly said:
Please take time to watch this video...and there are many many more on Youtube.. this is an African American family, who have lived and worked in the Uk for over a year, and their experiences of it, including any racism they may or may not have met... they will explain in this video to their fellow countrymen in the USA their experiences living here in England


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I laughed when they talked about the parking. We were equally astonished at the seemingly random orientation of parked cars.
 
Alligatorob said:
Yep, that does seem to be what it takes. Here is the progress I have seen within my own family (true story):
  • My great great grandparents were slave owners
  • My great grandfather participated in a lynching
  • My grandparents considered themselves liberal on civil rights, but in that day it just meant not joining the KKK or supporting violence against blacks, things like school integration "race mixing" was a step too far for them.
  • My father supported civil rights at least conceptually, but thought some of the laws took away too many white rights. My mother however was very supportive of civil rights.
  • I try
  • My niece is married to a black man and he fits into the family just fine.
I think that really is progress, and not too far from the average American family. However, it sure is taking a long time, that timeline covers over 150 years. If I were on the other side of it all I would not be happy about that...
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Honest and such a good read, thank you Alligatorob. That's what it takes, one family at a time.
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Yesterday and today, racism is pervasive and entrenched in America.

"Wyoming’s first Black sheriff last year fired a white deputy who is accused of tormenting a Black subordinate for years with racist name-calling that led him to quit, a new federal lawsuit reveals."

"Albany County Patrol Sgt. Christian Handley once drove past and yelled a profanity and the N-word at Cpl. Jamin Johnson while Johnson and his wife and children were walking out of their home."

"Handley used racial slurs to refer not only to Johnson but to Black citizens he came in contact with on the job, including four University of Wyoming students who were in a vehicle he once pulled over."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...fires-deputy-for-racism/ar-AAT6ios?li=BBnb7Kz

https://www.yahoo.com/now/lawsuit-1st-wyoming-black-sheriff-232008781.html

On the job, in the community and government. Instead of tweeting congratulations, this legislator's response just shows how deep racism runs in America's DNA.

"Republican state Rep. Cyrus Western replied on social media Monday to an article about Albany County Sheriff Aaron Appelhans’ appointment with a clip that showed a Black character from a movie asking, “Where the white women at?”

“I’d like to issue a retraction,” Western wrote in a tweet Wednesday morning. “My remark about the new Albany Sheriff was dumb and uncalled for.”

“What I did was insensitive, and, while unintended, I recognize that it was wrong,” Western added. “I hope he accepts my apology.”

https://apnews.com/article/albany-media-wyoming-social-media-casper-8e694e7894e63a5b9a845266e7707d5b

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...r-fire-racist-tweet-states-black-sheriff.html
 

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