Saw an interesting commercial about the Tesla car...

Jace

Jace

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Has anyone seen the TV commercial about the self-driving Tesla car?

That show all the things that have gone wrong...almost causing accidents..

Then it states...tell Congress to shut it down...

Can they do that?
 

I believe the problem with self-driving cars is that they have to be programmed to react. If something that occurs and there is not an appropriate program, the car cannot act properly. At some point, there will be sufficient programming to handle a vast array of situations, so that the cars will be safe to use.
 
Jace said:
Has anyone seen the TV commercial about the self-driving Tesla car?
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No but it sounds interesting.

I know we have to make self-driving cars safe, but I don't think we should set the bar too high.

Tens of thousands of people die every year in traffic accidents in the US alone, many more world wide. As a threshold I would just want some assurance the accident rate would not go up with self-driving cars. To expect zero would irrationally kill or hinder development of the technology.
 

Jace said:
Has anyone seen the TV commercial about the self-driving Tesla car?

That show all the things that have gone wrong...almost causing accidents..

Then it states...tell Congress to shut it down...

Can they do that?
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I saw it too....
The thing is it cannot be programmed for every possibility ..........there will be limits on responding to outside forces.

I do not understand the NEED for them personally i enjoy driving ...
i am cautious and not had accidents but one in almost 40 yrs of driving.
I think far too many in their head believe technology will take care of all risks and items in driving ( always the other guy) .... but that is a fantasy not a reality
 
But, the intelligent engineers should have thought of some of those possibilities happening!!
 
Given the current "state of the art", I wouldn't trust a self driving car. A momentary loss of GPS signal could easily cause a major/fatal accident. Driving/riding in one of these things would be like using a cell phone, and having a sudden loss of "service".
 
Alligatorob said:
However, is this likely to happen more or less often than a live driver falling asleep at the wheel, with similar consequences?
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Virtually Anything that causes a momentary loss of vehicle control can/will cause a major accident. Falling asleep, texting on the cell phone, a steering malfunction in the vehicle, a sudden flat tire, etc., etc., are All contributors to the thousands of wrecks/fatalities every year. Adding self driving cars to the equation, without some major "back up" system in place, would only drive these numbers higher.
 
The lack of predictability is caused by human drivers who do irrational things behind the wheel. The obvious solution is to get rid of all vehicles that rely on a human to control it, and replace them all with self driving cars. We would also need to do something about the pedestrians who do irrational things.

Personally, I'd like to quit driving at age 80, which is a little more than 4 years away.
 
Self driving cars - I prefer to call them Smart Cars, will enhance human's driving skills not totally replace them.

I'm one for less government intervention. I prefer to have more control over my life than less and can sway manufactures with the way I spend my money.
 
I question the whole concept of self-drive cars. Seems to me folks are getting lazier and lazier and lazier. At the same time, obesity is a major problem here in North America. If you are so lazy that you can't drive your own car, perhaps you need to stay home and get some rest. Around my "neck of the woods, we got those "break the dishes" businesses that are trying to sell meals to folks often to lazy to cook (exceptions to house bounded people). Folks too lazy to make their own coffee that drive daily around Tim Horton and Starbucks for their morning coffee. Ya, each to their own, I say but I'd rather not see driverless cars roaring down the highways at 70 miles/hour. Remember Murphy, "When things can go wrong, they generally will."

https://nypost.com/2021/04/18/tesla-on-autopilot-crashes-into-tree-kills-two-people/
 
One day hackers will figure out a way to hack into these self-driving cars and cause them to crash.

That said, I saw an article earlier today saying that Tesla broke all profit forecasts. I'm seeing quite a few Tesla cars on the road. The times they are a changin'.
 
Don M. said:
Adding self driving cars to the equation, without some major "back up" system in place, would only drive these numbers higher.
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But would it?

With self-driving cars we would likely have fewer accidents caused by falling asleep, texting, or drunk drivers. Seems to me the standard to allow self-driving cars should be a decline of those human factor accidents as much or more than accidents caused by the self-driving cars. In other words a net safety improvement.
 
If you fall asleep while driving, cause an accident, and people are injured or killed you can and will be sued. If you are in a self-driving auto that has a failure that causes an accident where people are injured or killed who gets sued by the injured parties? You as the passenger in the self-driving car or the car manufacturer?
 
Tom52 said:
If you fall asleep while driving, cause an accident, and people are injured or killed you can and will be sued. If you are in a self-driving auto that has a failure that causes an accident where people are injured or killed who gets sued by the injured parties? You as the passenger in the self-driving car or the car manufacturer?
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That's a good one!
 
SeniorBen said:
One day hackers will figure out a way to hack into these self-driving cars and cause them to crash.

That said, I saw an article earlier today saying that Tesla broke all profit forecasts. I'm seeing quite a few Tesla cars on the road. The times they are a changin'.
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Hackers already can wirelessly disable brakes, steering censors through car computers.

Article is behind a paywall but the video overview is viewable without a subscription.

https://www.wired.com/2015/07/hackers-remotely-kill-jeep-highway/

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I don't see many commercials because most of my streaming is ad free, so no I haven't seen it. I do remember that the Teslas have had a few scary accidents. Meant to mention that to my son who would love to own one. We're talking big money and a company owned by one of the richest men in the world. I doubt the government will do anything.
 
SeniorBen said:
One day hackers will figure out a way to hack into these self-driving cars and cause them to crash.

That said, I saw an article earlier today saying that Tesla broke all profit forecasts. I'm seeing quite a few Tesla cars on the road. The times they are a changin'.
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SeniorBen has it right. Every time there are new inventions or devices; hackers are working overtimes to prove that they can hack into all the "fullproofs" security.
 
There’ll be a time in the not so distant future when all cars produced will be self-driving and affordable. I’m not expecting that in my lifetime but there are many things that have developed that I never would have believed just 20 years ago.

I’m more worried about flying cars.
 
chic said:
I don't believe we have the infrastructure to successfully require everyone to buy and drive a Tesla yet. Just IMHO
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Not even close, and before we can the problem of battery charging needs to be solved. I would not consider an electric car right now, even if it were affordable. No way to do the 600+ mile/day road trips I take from time to time.
Jules said:
There’ll be a time in the not so distant future when all cars produced will be self-driving and affordable.
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I think you are right, it will just take time. My wife's new Subaru has features now that border on self-driving. It will follow a car, keeping a safe distance, stopping and starting as the car in front does. And it senses lanes and keeps the car in the lane. Its sneaking up on us.
 
@OneEyedDiva Thanks to the link for pricing. It was interesting, even if I’ll never be buying one.

Has anyone here driven a Tesla? Did you like it? One fellow said he found it uncomfortable. That may just have been because of his body build. No car fits everyone.
 

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