Farmers are warning of a food crisis sparked by shortages

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Farmers are warning of a food crisis sparked by shortages and spiralling wholesale prices – amid fears rationing could spread beyond cooking oil.

National Farmers’ Union leader Minette Batters warned: ‘It is the most serious situation for food production since the Second World War.’

Major supermarkets are already limiting how much sunflower oil, which is largely sourced from Ukraine, customers can buy.

And other shortages and punishing price rises are being felt in the food chain, with an inevitable knock-on effect on choice and household budgets.

Farmers’ leaders warned the Environment Secretary George Eustice about the crisis at emergency talks last week.

Tim Lang, professor emeritus of food policy at City, University of London, said: ‘We are talking about rationing sunflower oil today, but it could be other products soon.

‘The Ukraine crisis is piling on the agony and reminding us – and the Government – that we cannot assume supermarket shelves will always be full.’

Tesco, Morrisons, Waitrose and Iceland are limiting how much sunflower oil can be bought and there are concerns this will spread to other products and, more likely, see reduced choice on shelves.

Ukraine and Russia normally export tens of millions of tons of wheat and other grain, which is used in food production and animal feed.

Shortages and higher prices will affect the shelf prices of everything from bread, pasta and beer to chicken and sausages.

Professor Lang said: ‘We are seeing a destabilisation coming into food system and it is time for the Government to get a grip.

‘It should not be up to supermarkets to decide what we can and can’t buy, the Government must be involved.’

A shortage of white fish is also a danger as Russia is a major supplier to Europe and the UK.
Food security expert Professor Erik Millstone, of the University of Sussex, said a failure by supermarkets to pay farmers more to cover their rising costs risks causing shortages.

He added: ‘The combination of rising input prices for farmers with the supermarkets determination to keep their prices competitive to avoid losing market share could mean that incentives for farmers to increase production would evaporate.’

Producers of salad crops under glass in the UK and on the Continent have cut back on production because of the soaring cost of energy to provide heat.

As a result, the wholesale prices of some tomatoes are up by 58 per cent in a year. Even McDonald’s has been unable to get all the tomatoes it needs meaning some restaurants have cut the number of slices in its burgers.

The wholesale price of butter and skimmed milk powder, which is used in processed foods, is up by 59 per cent in a year, according to the Agriculture and Horticulture Development Board. It says the figure for cream is up by 58 per cent and for mild cheddar by 45 per cent.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...id-warnings-food-crisis-price-fears-grow.html
 

I'm not yet seeing real shortages yet but have noticed there is less fresh fruit to choose from and what little they have flies off the shelves pretty quick. I haven't had pineapple in a couple of months because the cost went up more than any other fruit, go figure. Now they just plain don't have it. Also there were NO bananas at the store at all yesterday!! But with the few cents I'm saving on gas now I guess I could drive around and look for some but I am so worn out from this whole thing I cannot express it. However the tired don't survive so I'll deal with it as soon as I can.

I hope we all get through this chapter of our ordeal. It seems unending.
 
How terrifying this is, @hollydolly . :( My heart goes out to you.
Please keep us posted about what you and your daughter experience in grocery stores and other food places.

There are spotty empty shelves here, but mostly very short-term due to delivery delays or labor issues (not enough employees to stock the shelves). It's nothing like March 2020 when certain items were nearly impossible to get and others were limited because of widespread panic buying.

Food prices are rising swiftly here, though not as severely as yours. At my Costco, coffee is up 30%, as is butter. Egg prices are through the roof, but the avian flu is largely responsible.
 

I have read articles that China is buying acreage here in the U.S. to farm and grow their own food. There are many old farms for sale in my area. Mostly developers buy them. When the farmer decides to retire, in some families, their kids don’t want to farm, so the owner will sell the land to a developer for him to build new homes or warehouses on. At least that’s what’s going on in my area.
 
My son just stocked up on Kerrygold butter at Costco because they had it on sale. He just bought a bottle of avocado oil and we have a large bottle of olive oil here. We don't use sunflower oil. I always keep well stocked on items I know we'll need due to my penchant for buying in bulk. My son is buying the eggs now and he prefers the most expensive (organic, cage free, brown). A couple of weeks ago, I saw on GMA that we may see a shortage of eggs and/or rise in price. Gee, at $4 a dozen, I hope they don't go any higher!

I lucked out this and last week in that my favorite brand of oranges are on sale $2.99 for four pounds, so I got two bags. They can run from $1 for each orange to $4.99 for four pounds. I see that our local supermarket has more signs now, indicating that some things may be temporarily out of stock, but haven't seen signs about limitations except the usual for sale items. I hope the food crisis can somehow be averted or minimized.
 
I have read articles that China is buying acreage here in the U.S. to farm and grow their own food. There are many old farms for sale in my area. Mostly developers buy them. When the farmer decides to retire, in some families, their kids don’t want to farm, so the owner will sell the land to a developer for him to build new homes or warehouses on. At least that’s what’s going on in my area.

It's been going on for years.

... https://americanmilitarynews.com/20...lawmakers-are-scrambling-to-try-to-stop-them/

U.S. lawmakers are acting with increased concern as Chinese purchasers are buying tens of thousands of acres of U.S. farmland.

As of the start of 2020, Chinese investors owned about 192,000 acres of U.S. agricultural land valued at about $1.9 billion, according to Politico. While Chinese land ownership in the U.S. is less than that of other foreign nations, the growth in Chinese land ownership is part of an overall trend in China rapidly buying up other country’s farmland over more than a decade.
 
Indonesia announced a ban on exporting palm oil today. Anyone who uses a lot of "cooking" oils will probably see quite a jump in prices, or outright shortages. There are a lot of farms in our area, and by this time of year, the farmers are usually doing a lot of plowing and planting....however, this year the farm activity is almost non-existent.

It looks like a very bad year coming....between housing prices, fuel prices, and grocery prices...inflation is going to continue to increase.
 
My son just stocked up on Kerrygold butter at Costco because they had it on sale. He just bought a bottle of avocado oil and we have a large bottle of olive oil here. We don't use sunflower oil. I always keep well stocked on items I know we'll need due to my penchant for buying in bulk. My son is buying the eggs now and he prefers the most expensive (organic, cage free, brown). A couple of weeks ago, I saw on GMA that we may see a shortage of eggs and/or rise in price. Gee, at $4 a dozen, I hope they don't go any higher!

I lucked out this and last week in that my favorite brand of oranges are on sale $2.99 for four pounds, so I got two bags. They can run from $1 for each orange to $4.99 for four pounds. I see that our local supermarket has more signs now, indicating that some things may be temporarily out of stock, but haven't seen signs about limitations except the usual for sale items. I hope the food crisis can somehow be averted or minimized.
I don't use sunflower or safflower oil either and so far the stores are always well stocked in the olive oil I do use.
 
I don't use sunflower or safflower oil either and so far the stores are always well stocked in the olive oil I do use.
I use groundnut and olive oils... but of course they're not only referring to bottled oil we'd buy, but all the ready made food, cosmetics et al.. that require oil as an ingredient. All those items are now becoming more scarce. ..

I've just returned from shopping, and it was very clear that so many items had jumped at least 30 % in price if not more..

Also in todays news there's a reported shortage of HRT.. apparently 1 in 3 women can't get their usual dose, so they've resorted to buying on the Black market ..

ETA ...my mistake in fact it's 2 out of 3 pharmacies who have no supplies at all... caused it would appear by a national shortage of oestrogen gel since the start of the year

Fortunately I don't take HRT myself...
 
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  • Indonesia, a top palm-oil exporter, is planning to ban exports beginning on Thursday.
  • Palm oil, the world's most used vegetable oil, is used in cooking and a range of consumer products.
  • Palm-oil and competing soybean-oil prices are jumping after news of the ban.
The world's top palm-oil producer announced that it would ban exports of the commodity starting on Thursday, sending the prices of edible oils soaring.

Indonesia accounts for about half of the world's supply of palm oil, the world's most widely used vegetable oil. Palm oil is used for cooking and for the production of thousands of consumer products, including biscuits, detergents, and lipsticks.

In a video statement on Friday, Indonesian President Joko Widodo said the move was designed to bring down domestic palm-oil prices and ensure domestic food availability in the wake of global food inflation.

"I will monitor and evaluate the implementation of this policy so availability of cooking oil in the domestic market becomes abundant and affordable," Widodo said, a Reuters translation reported.

The move comes as Indonesia has seen recent protests over the high prices of cooking oil, with retail prices gaining more than 40% so far this year, Reuters reported.

https://markets.businessinsider.com...nesia-to-ban-exports-starting-thursday-2022-4
 
I'm not yet seeing real shortages yet but have noticed there is less fresh fruit to choose from and what little they have flies off the shelves pretty quick. I haven't had pineapple in a couple of months because the cost went up more than any other fruit, go figure. Now they just plain don't have it. Also there were NO bananas at the store at all yesterday!! But with the few cents I'm saving on gas now I guess I could drive around and look for some but I am so worn out from this whole thing I cannot express it. However the tired don't survive so I'll deal with it as soon as I can.

I hope we all get through this chapter of our ordeal. It seems unending.
My advice: take many naps; force yourself to smile at something. I know optimism is hard to come by these days, but if we lose hope, we are truly lost - in my opinion.
 
  • Indonesia, a top palm-oil exporter, is planning to ban exports beginning on Thursday.
  • Palm oil, the world's most used vegetable oil, is used in cooking and a range of consumer products.
  • Palm-oil and competing soybean-oil prices are jumping after news of the ban.
The world's top palm-oil producer announced that it would ban exports of the commodity starting on Thursday, sending the prices of edible oils soaring.

Indonesia accounts for about half of the world's supply of palm oil, the world's most widely used vegetable oil. Palm oil is used for cooking and for the production of thousands of consumer products, including biscuits, detergents, and lipsticks.

In a video statement on Friday, Indonesian President Joko Widodo said the move was designed to bring down domestic palm-oil prices and ensure domestic food availability in the wake of global food inflation.

"I will monitor and evaluate the implementation of this policy so availability of cooking oil in the domestic market becomes abundant and affordable," Widodo said, a Reuters translation reported.

The move comes as Indonesia has seen recent protests over the high prices of cooking oil, with retail prices gaining more than 40% so far this year, Reuters reported.

https://markets.businessinsider.com...nesia-to-ban-exports-starting-thursday-2022-4
precisely the problem... oil is used in so many consumer goods, it's going to show very quickly in the absence on the shelves of a myriad of items..
 
This is not a short term issue of what’s on the shelves right now. Everything that it takes to run a farm is in short supply (seeds, fertilizer, etc) to the increased prices of fuels to run the farms/ranches and to ship out the goods. On top of that, the weather has changed over the recent years and crops have been destroyed and cattle sold off. This is not new, just getting much worse.
 
@chic, we’ve had pineapples on loss leader prices for the past three weeks. Walmart and another store had them for $3 or $4. Bananas are abundant again; we went through a stage a few months ago when almost none were available.
 
This is not a short term issue of what’s on the shelves right now. Everything that it takes to run a farm is in short supply (seeds, fertilizer, etc) to the increased prices of fuels to run the farms/ranches and to ship out the goods. On top of that, the weather has changed over the recent years and crops have been destroyed and cattle sold off. This is not new, just getting much worse.
yes the same here. Farmers here have had to throw vast quantities of food away because they have no-one to pick it... nor do they have enough oil to heat the greenhouses..
 
The good news just keeps on coming. Ration books are probably right around the corner.
Probably not in the US. Our country is in the fortunate position of being a net exporter of food. We also don't rely on Russian products to create fertilizer for our crops.

Palm oil could be replaced by corn and other vegetable oils in most products, thank goodness. It's such a rain forest ecological disaster that the world would experience a big silver lining if industries moved away from palm oil.

While I prefer olive oil for cooking and canola (rapeseed) for a few baked items, I don't use a lot of either and could substitute other oils. Subbing for butter in baked goods is harder and requires recipe adjustments, but can be done.

Any country, the US included, is both foolish and irresponsible when it permits foreign nationals to own great swaths of its housing, land, farms, food processing industries, factories, etc. At some point it will be addressed, but lawmakers won't see the light until the population is in crisis mode.

Rare indeed is the government that proactively scans the horizon for threats, barring doors and fortifying windows while the wolf is still peering at the house from afar. Most react when wolfie's already wreaked havoc inside the house. Then he'll be extricated (Breaking News! with 24/7 coverage), his victims mourned, buried and martyred, the task force lauded as heroes, and the way he came in plastered over.

All other entries to the house will remain as unsecured as ever, because that's how governments roll.

Humans are VERY slow learners. Politicians are even slower.
 
Probably not in the US. Our country is in the fortunate position of being a net exporter of food. We also don't rely on Russian products to create fertilizer for our crops.

Palm oil could be replaced by corn and other vegetable oils in most products, thank goodness. It's such a rain forest ecological disaster that the world would experience a big silver lining if industries moved away from palm oil.

While I prefer olive oil for cooking and canola (rapeseed) for a few baked items, I don't use a lot of either and could substitute other oils. Subbing for butter in baked goods is harder and requires recipe adjustments, but can be done.

Any country, the US included, is both foolish and irresponsible when it permits foreign nationals to own great swaths of its housing, land, farms, food processing industries, factories, etc. At some point it will be addressed, but lawmakers won't see the light until the population is in crisis mode.

Rare indeed is the government that proactively scans the horizon for threats, barring doors and fortifying windows while the wolf is still peering at the house from afar. Most react when wolfie's already wreaked havoc inside the house. Then he'll be extricated (Breaking News! with 24/7 coverage), his victims mourned, buried and martyred, the task force lauded as heroes, and the way he came in plastered over.

All other entries to the house will remain as unsecured as ever, because that's how governments roll.

Humans are VERY slow learners. Politicians are even slower.
we need an applause Icon on the tool bar..... 👏
 
I have read articles that China is buying acreage here in the U.S. to farm and grow their own food. There are many old farms for sale in my area. Mostly developers buy them. When the farmer decides to retire, in some families, their kids don’t want to farm, so the owner will sell the land to a developer for him to build new homes or warehouses on. At least that’s what’s going on in my area.
Food producing farms for "personal use" are regulated by the Dept of Agriculture and the Dept of Land Management just like farms that produce for the public. There are size and production limitations, water-rights permits, you have to source your seeds from certain companies, like Monsanto and Burpee, you have to use certain irrigation systems, get irrigation-sinking permits and inspections, you can't use use certain types of equipment or chemicals, need permits to sell or ship your crops, and practically endless etceteras.
(I'm not talking about personal backyard gardens, of course.)

That said, a couple years ago, the federal gov't seized a bunch of China-owned properties, including undeveloped lands, and the owner's visas were suspended after the CCP refused to cooperate with the US during investigations into Covid-19. I don't know where all that stands right now.
 
If the food situation got real bad, I've got a nice big 1+ acre meadow below the house that I could plow up, and grow all sorts of vegetables, and an ever increasing herd of deer roaming the property, that would supply us with meat. But then, it's hard to keep the deers out of my current garden, and I'd rather watch them, than eat them.
 
If the food situation got real bad, I've got a nice big 1+ acre meadow below the house that I could plow up, and grow all sorts of vegetables, and an ever increasing herd of deer roaming the property, that would supply us with meat. But then, it's hard to keep the deers out of my current garden, and I'd rather watch them, than eat them.
This is where those with any kind of land suitable for growing, will find themselves able to survive without too much trouble..just like during the war when mr and mrs smith grew their own veggies , even if they only had a pot and some soil in their cellar...

I used to grow fruit and veggies here, haven't for many years now.. but I could return to that without too much of an issue if it came to that..
 


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