Stanley showed up yesterday

oldman said:
I would be glad to help pay for treatment for Stanley if you would like to start a Go Fund Me page. Maybe the Vet would make a house call, if you were able to collect enough money. Just send me the link.

I hate seeing any animal suffer. If he was here, I would have my son capture him. He’s good at doing that.
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Good idea.
 
Well, Shalimar, I'm the (post 34) one who told Deb I didn't think he was in pain and that was based on my own experience with a diabetic cat and my vet telling me that he didn't think my cat was in pain.

What I know did hurt him was having blood drawn from his neck once a month to see how much insulin he needed. I've never minded the cost of care for my pets, but I do weigh everything I do for animals against the fear and pain the "care" might bring. They don't know why we're taking them to a place that reeks of fear urine where a stranger will handle them and do painful things to them.

Go ahead and start a go fund me page for Stanley if you want to, get Deb to catch him and take him to the vet and give him insulin shots. It might make him live a month or two longer, but it might also make him afraid of Deb and likely to run away from Deb and not get the simple comforts she was going to give him to ease his passage.

My local humane society says this small town has an estimated 3000 stray cats. Just because we saw a picture of Stanley doesn't make him any more deserving of compassion than any of those other 3000 cats.

Maybe instead of shaming Deb and me and telling us we're not compassionate and getting all holier-than-thou over this one particular cat, you could get yourself to your local pound and take an animal home to your own house.
 
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Actually, I did take a homeless cat into my house. His name is Sassafras, and I love him very much. I am well aware we cannot help all the stray cats, but sometimes we can help

one. As for what ails Stanley, we simply don’t know until he is professionally checked out. Certainly dying on the street does not seem to be the best option.
 
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Shalimar said:
How can anyone know if this poor animal is in pain? Apex predators hide their discomfort very well. Also, he is helpless to defend himself against any predators. I think it is the epitome of

cruelty to just leave him to his fate. Why not start a go fund me page, as old man suggested? Both he and RGP have stated they would donate. Deb, I can empathise if you are

experiencing financial constraints, I just returned to work after a prolonged absence. But financial help would seem to be available. Please help this dear little cat, it is the Christian thing to do, as my animal loving Gramma would have said.🐈
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I absolutely agree. Our sweet cat, Toby, had severe asthma and was down to skin and bones, yet he still managed go about his routine like nothing was wrong until we had to put him to sleep. Cats truly do hide their discomfort.
 
Della said:
Well, Shalimar, I'm the (post 34) one who told Deb I didn't think he was in pain and that was based on my own experience with a diabetic cat and my vet telling me that he didn't think my cat was in pain.

What I know did hurt him was having blood drawn from his neck once a month to see how much insulin he needed. I've never minded the cost of care for my pets, but I do weigh everything I do for animals against the fear and pain the "care" might bring. They don't know why we're taking them to a place that reeks of fear urine where a stranger will handle them and do painful things to them.

Go ahead and start a go fund me page for Stanley if you want to, get Deb to catch him and take him to the vet and give him insulin shots. It might make him live a month or two longer, but it might also make him afraid of Deb and likely to run away from Deb and not get the simple comforts she was going to give him to ease his passage.

My local humane society says this small town has an estimated 3000 stray cats. Just because we saw a picture of Stanley doesn't make him any more deserving of compassion than any of those other 3000 cats.

Maybe instead of shaming Deb and me and telling us we're not compassionate and getting all holier-than-thou over this one particular cat, you could get yourself to your local pound and take an animal home to your own house.
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I have already taken in over the years more than 30 starving and abused horses, 7 stray cats, and a puppy with Parvo, and pulled him through it. From this I have learned people AND vets will help if you just start the ball rolling, so, I think I have some cause. And emailing a vets office instead of calling is really lame. It probably never got past the office staff. Then there is the internet vets here who make claim to know what is actually wrong with an animal they have never seen, and are probably wrong. Ever seen a cat that was hit by a car, just bad enough to damage the spinal cord? Yeah, like that.
 
Pepper said:
I just hate the term 'put to sleep.' No one is sleeping. I think when kids, young kids, hear that term it is scary & confusing.
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They did sedate my dog and she fell asleep first. I got to hold her. After I left they euthanized her. It was nice to hold her and see her not in misery resting peacefully.
 
oldman said:
My son throws a big beach towel over any stray cats that he sees around his house. Dogs, if they have a collar on, he will give them a treat and then put a leash on them until he can locate the owner. If not, he takes them to the lost animal dept. our SPCA has set up.

If someone captures Stanley and takes him to the Vet, please contact me and I will donate towards his care.
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You can also trap them painless and transport safely. Kind of you to offer help.
 
Jan14 said:
They did sedate my dog and she fell asleep first. I got to hold her. After I left they euthanized her. It was nice to hold her and see her not in misery resting peacefully.
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We have had many cats and only one has actually passed away at home. Milo was old and very lethargic, and when I saw him failing I told my partner he'd better say his "goodbyes" before going to bed. Sure enough, Milo had passed away in our family room when we woke the next morning.

We've had to euthanize all our other cats due to health issues and it has been so difficult. It is good that we can hold them after they have been put to sleep because we love them and know they are no longer in pain.

This is a little self-indulgent tribute to Milo (sleeping on his back) and Toby. The facility that euthanized Toby offered to make a plaster cast of his paws and we have them in our family room.

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dseag2 said:
We have had many cats and only one has actually passed away at home. Milo was old and very lethargic, and when I saw him failing I told my partner he'd better say his "goodbyes" before going to bed. Sure enough, Milo had passed away in our family room when we woke the next morning.

We've had to euthanize all our other cats due to health issues and it has been so difficult. It is good that we can hold them after they have been put to sleep because we love them and know they are no longer in pain.

This is a little self-indulgent tribute to Milo (sleeping on his back) and Toby. The facility that euthanized Toby offered to make a plaster cast of his paws and we have them in our family room.

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It really does help to hold them a bit peacefully. It was precious to me. I have kitties too. Yours were beautiful 😢
 
oldaunt said:
I have already taken in over the years more than 30 starving and abused horses, 7 stray cats, and a puppy with Parvo, and pulled him through it. From this I have learned people AND vets will help if you just start the ball rolling, so, I think I have some cause. And emailing a vets office instead of calling is really lame. It probably never got past the office staff. Then there is the internet vets here who make claim to know what is actually wrong with an animal they have never seen, and are probably wrong. Ever seen a cat that was hit by a car, just bad enough to damage the spinal cord? Yeah, like that.
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So you, who are not an internet vet, oh no, just me, have diagnosed spinal cord injury and yet think it would be a good idea to chase Stanley down throw a blanket over him and wrestle him into a crate to take him to the vet.

I'm also surprised that no one thinks it matters that Stanley has an owner who may have already taken him to the vet and doesn't want other people interfering.

I also, same as you and Shalimar, have taken in animals, taken strays to the vet and rescued animals from the pound -- but I don't think that gives me the right to insist Deb do it and I don't think it makes me Queen of Compassion able to cast judgement on others for not doing what I would do.

The best thing for an animal is not always the thing that costs the most money or involves the vet. We humans endure operations and trips to the hospital because we know there's a reason for it all, but those things are terrifying to animals and I think we should take that into consideration before just throwing money at the problem and feeling superior about it.
 
Della said:
So you, who are not an internet vet, oh no, just me, have diagnosed spinal cord injury and yet think it would be a good idea to chase Stanley down throw a blanket over him and wrestle him into a crate to take him to the vet.

I'm also surprised that no one thinks it matters that Stanley has an owner who may have already taken him to the vet and doesn't want other people interfering.

I also, same as you and Shalimar, have taken in animals, taken strays to the vet and rescued animals from the pound -- but I don't think that gives me the right to insist Deb do it and I don't think it makes me Queen of Compassion able to cast judgement on others for not doing what I would do.

The best thing for an animal is not always the thing that costs the most money or involves the vet. We humans endure operations and trips to the hospital because we know there's a reason for it all, but those things are terrifying to animals and I think we should take that into consideration before just throwing money at the problem and feeling superior about it.
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Did not diagnose him, just pointed out it could have been a lot of other things. MOST of which could have been fixed with a little help, but no, just let him drag around til some stray dog mauls him. Funny, NONE of my animals were ever terrified by the vet. Even the ones who got neutered. Any more poor excuses?
 
I have a friend in Arkansas who has 4 cats that were all rescues. She is constantly feeding/housing/trapping strays. Some have been very difficult to trap.

All I'm saying, is, I don't think it's right to be shaming Deb. It's not always easy to trap ferals, or even domesticated strays. I tried once, and failed. The cat went berserk, so, I had no option but to set it free.
 
Pinky said:
I have a friend in Arkansas who has 4 cats that were all rescues. She is constantly feeding/housing/trapping strays. Some have been very difficult to trap.

All I'm saying, is, I don't think it's right to be shaming Deb. It's not always easy to trap ferals, or even domesticated strays. I tried once, and failed. The cat went berserk, so, I had no option but to set it free.
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Yes, feral cats can be extremely hard to catch. We had one that we named Marvin. I watched him play with his mother in our courtyard when he was a young cat. She eventually disappeared, and he started coming to our glass door to look in. I actually let him in and fed him. He kept coming back inside and would lay back-to-back with our Milo. But he was terrified of us. We didn't want Milo to catch any diseases so we were determined to take Marvin to the vet. One day we trapped him in the laundry room and he was so terrified that he jumped to the top of the cabinets, which we can't even reach. We finally gave up, but I kept feeding him outside.

I felt so bad for him that when the weather got cold I would put an empty litter box in the courtyard with a lid and a blanket inside. I put a blanket over the outside as well, but he never slept in there. I've had sleepless nights wondering whatever happened to Marvin. 😔
 
dseag2 said:
Yes, feral cats can be extremely hard to catch. We had one that we named Marvin. I watched him play with his mother in our courtyard when he was a young cat. She eventually disappeared, and he started coming to our glass door to look in. I actually let him in and fed him. He kept coming back inside and would lay back-to-back with our Milo. But he was terrified of us. We didn't want Milo to catch any diseases so we were determined to take Marvin to the vet. One day we trapped him in the laundry room and he was so terrified that he jumped to the top of the cabinets, which we can't even reach. We finally gave up, but I kept feeding him outside.

I felt so bad for him that when the weather got cold I would put an empty litter box in the courtyard with a lid and a blanket inside. I put a blanket over the outside as well, but he never slept in there. I've had sleepless nights wondering whatever happened to Marvin. 😔
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@dseag2
I know how you feel, as the cat I mentioned kept coming around. I put food out for it (don't know if it was male or female) .. but, that brought the damn racoons. I put out a cardboard box for it, with a towel inside. I think the racoons took that over as well, and eventually the cat disappeared. I always felt bad about not getting him/her to a shelter.
 
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