CDC Admits Failure

Right Now said:
I have seen many interviews with CDC heads in the last two or more years. I agree they have admitted to failure to act and react to COVID, as well they should. Never did I think they were lying or deceiving the public, instead they were trying to share what knowledge they had at the time.
The former administration stifled their attempts to share knowledge for months as the pandemic spread, even asking Dr. Birk if we could drink bleach. o_O
Yes, they are working hard to find a reasonable and accurate way to contain this disease. I adhere to the guidelines set out to protect infections, and will continue to do so, including getting my boosters as needed.
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I never said where I placed blame, although I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment as to where (IMO much of) the blame lies. I merely pointed out that the failure was indeed acknowledged and that it was done so by CDC's head was factual, not merely someone's opinion.
 

win231 said:
I consider it dishonest to fabricate tales of "So many Covid deaths, refrigerated meat trucks were put in hospital parking lots to store bodies."
And, "Gurneys with Covid victims lined up in hospital corridors." (I took 4 friends & family to 4 different hospitals & saw no such thing).
And, at first, the coroner reported, "No signs of trauma on Bob Saget's body." Later, (when they realized what that would do to vaccine sales:
"He died of a head injury from a fall."

Amazing how people will keep believing someone who already lied to them.......
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Are those quotes from CDC reports or from media?
 
My first invention is the telephone and internet because now I'll always have contact with my brother.
Cars, cabs and buses because I don't drive and they get me from one destination to another.
AC/Heater because they're always needed
TV not only for information but for entertainment.
Puzzle books to keep my mind active.
 
PreciousDove said:
My first invention is the telephone and internet because now I'll always have contact with my brother.
Cars, cabs and buses because I don't drive and they get me from one destination to another.
AC/Heater because they're always needed
TV not only for information but for entertainment.
Puzzle books to keep my mind active.
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yesterday I was having a lot of problems with my pc.. It kept throwing me off and stalling..
This was to go in the thread about inventions start by i'm your pal.
 
CarolfromTX said:
The CDC turned the pandemic into a political circus. That alone makes me distrust their information.
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I agree. You could see how it was becoming a matter of politics and not public health as it unfolded. It should always have been about our health. But I do maintain, people are not stupid. If we actually saw, in real life, people dropping dead in the street like they sometimes showed in news clips from China, we would have voluntarily gone inside and stayed there. I just didn't believe them or the insane regulations they enforced upon people.
 
I glad the pandemic is over. Yes, yes! I know, the maskers are telling us that the pandemic is still with us so they keep wearing those silly looking masks until the pandemic is over. Well, I got news for them. It will probably never be over. Just like cancer, diabetes, heart attacks, dementia and strokes, etc are with us too. I recommend to get some fresh air, walk outside each day, eat healthy food, have an annual checkup and keep your immune system in top shape. Life must go on but life is really short so don't hide behind masks or sit in front of your TV all day long as that makes you rather sickly and chances are you will be the first to get sick.
 
PreciousDove said:
Isn't it something that 3 yrs after the start of this that someone is finally being held accountable.
I knew there was something wrong the whole time and never got any of these shots.
I'm still being safe though with masks and distancing.

https://redstate.com/bobhoge/2022/0...idance-yet-no-one-is-held-accountable-n614162
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On August 11th of this year, on another news site, a full article stating all the wrongs from the outset was released by the CDC. They also said it was terrible that it was tossed over to the politicians instead of remaining in the medical community. Well, that train has left the station.
 
Purwell said:
Whilst I am undergoing Chemo, I am pleased to see people having the sense to wear a mask.

My immune system is virtually zero for two weeks of each cycle and their masks are protecting me more than them.
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If someone's immune system is compromised in any way, a person should definitely wear a mask.
 
This will not end well. We have been lied to consistently from day 1.

Realize some very basic, rational common-sense arguments: if social distancing works, why do we need masks? If masks work, why do we need social distancing? If both social distancing and masks work, why do we need to take a vaccine? If the vaccines work, why do we need social distancing and masks combined. If the original first two jabs worked and were really that good, why would anyone need boosters, even if they considered themselves to be high-risk? And this far into the pandemic, if my last booster did some necessary clean up or repair from the injection I had before that, why then do I need another booster? And another? And yet another?

I'm in Canada. And in Canada, public health authorities are suggesting Canadians will need COVID-19 vaccines every 90 days. I've been working in retail full time for the entire duration of this pandemic - all of 2020, 2021 and 2022 to date - and I can assure one and all that I have been exposed to COVID-19 multiple times. No doubt I have had it, maybe multiple times as well. I'm still here, still unvaxxed and intend to remain so. I'm 77 years old and in good overall health. If I had COVID-19 I hardly noticed and I've fully recovered. You can tell yourself that I'm just lucky and carry on. Or you can ask yourself what's really going on here and why have we been lied to and continue being lied to?

The info is 'out there' but you won't hear it from the CDC or Anthony Fauci or Rochelle Walensky.
 
amwassil said:
This will not end well. We have been lied to consistently from day 1.

Realize some very basic, rational common-sense arguments: if social distancing works, why do we need masks? If masks work, why do we need social distancing? If both social distancing and masks work, why do we need to take a vaccine? If the vaccines work, why do we need social distancing and masks combined. If the original first two jabs worked and were really that good, why would anyone need boosters, even if they considered themselves to be high-risk? And this far into the pandemic, if my last booster did some necessary clean up or repair from the injection I had before that, why then do I need another booster? And another? And yet another?

I'm in Canada. And in Canada, public health authorities are suggesting Canadians will need COVID-19 vaccines every 90 days. I've been working in retail full time for the entire duration of this pandemic - all of 2020, 2021 and 2022 to date - and I can assure one and all that I have been exposed to COVID-19 multiple times. No doubt I have had it, maybe multiple times as well. I'm still here, still unvaxxed and intend to remain so. I'm 77 years old and in good overall health. If I had COVID-19 I hardly noticed and I've fully recovered. You can tell yourself that I'm just lucky and carry on. Or you can ask yourself what's really going on here and why have we been lied to and continue being lied to?

The info is 'out there' but you won't hear it from the CDC or Anthony Fauci or Rochelle Walensky.
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^^^^ Pure logic. Seems rather rare, these days.
 
I’ve worked in health admin in 4 states, and now I’m just an old woman trying to get to the next birthday, From both the patient and delivery perspective our whole healthcare system is a disorganized mess, between public, private, for profit, non profit and various interwoven combinations. Turf wars. That is dysfunctional under the best of conditions.

I remember the polio epidemics as a child who was crying because the pools were closed. Masks in circulation. An epidemic a few years ago of some kind of mouse transmitted virus right here in this state.
I believe Dr Fauci was trying his best to disseminate state of the art knowledge in a rapidly changing situation. No one person or institution had the entire body of knowledge.
And I believe that there is still a small segment of the population which is uneducated, frightened of science because they are ignorant, and resents anything getting in the way of their fun.
 
Geezerette said:
...I believe Dr Fauci was trying his best to disseminate state of the art knowledge in a rapidly changing situation. No one person or institution had the entire body of knowledge.
And I believe that there is still a small segment of the population which is uneducated, frightened of science because they are ignorant, and resents anything getting in the way of their fun.
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And there is a larger segment that wonders why the US NIAID under Fauci's lead directed millions of dollars (and here, and here) to the Wuhan Institute of Virology through the intermediary EcoHealth Alliance run by Peter Daszak - then denied doing so and claimed he knew nothing about it. Then spent a year more trying to convince us that the plague jumped from bats to humans at the Wuhan Wet Market down the street from the WIV. This after years surreptitiously funding research at WIV, UNC, Harvard Medical, Bellinzona Institute and others - so-called 'gain of function' - to create a chimera virus with enhanced ability to infect human lung tissue.

Inquiring minds want to know.
 
CarolfromTX said:
The CDC turned the pandemic into a political circus. That alone makes me distrust their information.
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No, the politicians of one party turned it into a political circus. There were over 95 million reported cases of Covid reported, and over One Million Americans have died from Covid. I don't fault the CDC for anything. It was the worst health crisis that many people have seen in their lifetimes. I got all 3 shots, wore masks (still do at work), and practiced social distancing. How many people who didn't take those precautions have died? I've read about a lot of Covid deniers that have past on.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html
 
Packerjohn said:
The pandemic really divided this country and drove fear into the ignorant masses. You can still see this ignorance as some folks are wearing masks while they are driving their cars/trucks with no one else besides them. In addition, it made millions for some companies.
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I was puzzled as well as to why people who are driving alone where masks. Then I figured it out. Those people are not ignorant, they just have a different approach.

You have a mask. You go to the store. Now your mask may have Covid germs on it. Some people do not want to touch the Covid infected mask and/or they have other places to go and do not want to take off and put on, repeatedly, since the mask is possibly infected.

They leave the mask on and throw it away when they are done shopping. Makes sense

I wear a mask, take it off in the car, wash my hands with the sanitizer I keep in the car, put the mask on at the next place. When done with all shopping I throw the mask away.
 
Paladin1950 said:
No, the politicians of one party turned it into a political circus. There were over 95 million reported cases of Covid reported, and over One Million Americans have died from Covid. I don't fault the CDC for anything. It was the worst health crisis that many people have seen in their lifetimes. I got all 3 shots, wore masks (still do at work), and practiced social distancing. How many people who didn't take those precautions have died? I've read about a lot of Covid deniers that have past on.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html
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Of course you've read about Covid deniers that have passed on. You'll never know what they died of because Covid was listed as their cause of death when they died of other causes - including traffic accidents. That fear campaign was necessary for vaccine & drug sales. Billions of dollars were at stake. That's why we're starting to hear similar tactics with Monkeypox. It's working.
They are already reporting "Suspected Monkeypox as the cause of death." Frightened non thinkers are already lining up for Monkeypox vaccines.
Other fabrications included "Covid corpses stacked in refrigerated meat trucks" & "Hospital hallways lined with Covid victims."
I've driven elderly friends to & from 4 hospitals during the "Peak" of the pandemic. Nothing of the sort existed. I also took my sister to the ER twice - for a sprained ankle & a UTI. The waiting room had 3 people in it - nothing like the "Waiting rooms packed with Covid victims" we heard about on the news.
I'm not a "Covid Denier." Covid exists; just like the flu exists. I just recognize exaggeration & B.S. when I hear it.
And, no, I haven't been vaccinated - for Covid or the flu. The only people I know who were very sick with Covid were vaccinated. No one will ever sell me on a vaccine or drug that doesn't work.
 
win231 said:
Of course you've read about Covid deniers that have passed on. You'll never know what they died of because Covid was listed as their cause of death when they died of other causes - including traffic accidents. That fear campaign was necessary for vaccine & drug sales. Billions of dollars were at stake. That's why we're starting to hear similar tactics with Monkeypox. It's working.
They are already reporting "Suspected Monkeypox as the cause of death." Frightened non thinkers are already lining up for Monkeypox vaccines.
Other fabrications included "Covid corpses stacked in refrigerated meat trucks" & "Hospital hallways lined with Covid victims."
I've driven elderly friends to & from 4 hospitals during the "Peak" of the pandemic. Nothing of the sort existed. I also took my sister to the ER twice - for a sprained ankle & a UTI. The waiting room had 3 people in it - nothing like the "Waiting rooms packed with Covid victims" we heard about on the news.
I'm not a "Covid Denier." Covid exists; just like the flu exists. I just recognize exaggeration & B.S. when I hear it.
And, no, I haven't been vaccinated - for Covid or the flu. The only people I know who were very sick with Covid were vaccinated. No one will ever sell me on a vaccine or drug that doesn't work.
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Ah, win231, so glad you have not changed. I so missed your denials of reality. Lovely to “see” you again. Just keep on being you. I know you will. 😂

As for monkey pox, I got a panicked call from my older half sister who was afraid she’d get monkey pox. Poor thing. I had to explain the facts of life to an 83 year old woman dying of lung issues and afraid to leave her house for fear of catching the new contagion. But a sisters got to do what a sister got to do.

And now she knows, no monkey pox for her. 😊
 
Aneeda72 said:
Ah, win231, so glad you have not changed. I so missed your denials of reality. Lovely to “see” you again. Just keep on being you. I know you will. 😂

As for monkey pox, I got a panicked call from my older half sister who was afraid she’d get monkey pox. Poor thing. I had to explain the facts of life to an 83 year old woman dying of lung issues and afraid to leave her house for fear of catching the new contagion. But a sisters got to do what a sister got to do.

And now she knows, no monkey pox for her. 😊
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Just reassure her that a miracle Monkeypox vaccine is available.
 

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