Jim Webb for prez in 2016! Finally, a possible alternative to Hillary!

Ralphy1

Ralphy1

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He has an impressive resume and I would like to see more of him, especially in debates with Hillary. If all goes well, he would get my vote as I am tired of the Clinton "circus." Surely you might also want to see a Webb versus Jeb showdown...
 

The problem for him is getting the big donors who may have already committed to the Clinton money machine...
 

Ralphy1 said:
The problem for him is getting the big donors who may have already committed to the Clinton money machine...
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That's the big problem.. Hillary has all the Democratic donors sewn up. Bernie Sanders made reference to that fact. He probabley won't run because he has no money. We really need some campaign reform, but who can see THAT happening.. at least not in the near future.
 
Yup, but I don't see it happening either. The system has been totally corrupted, but the public doesn't seem concerned enough to do much about it yet...
 
Ralphy1 said:
Yup, but I don't see it happening either. The system has been totally corrupted, but the public doesn't seem concerned enough to do much about it yet...
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There's not much the public can do if their representatives refuse to take any action... other than voting them out of office I suppose. In this Congress, you will NEVER get the majority to agree to get the money out of politics.. It's how they keep their jobs.
 
One pundit believes that we are in a pre-revolutionary state due to the growing disparity in wealth and its corrupting effect on our political system...
 
I don't want to see a Clinton or a Bush on the 2016 ballot. I think many are beginning to see how corrupt the Clintons really are, but they still have big money behind them. Especially Arab money.
 
Here's an in depth profile of Jim Webb written back in 2008 by Elizabeth Drew a political writer I respect. I don't know how much seven years may have changed things, I'm inclined to think not all that much because Webb is a very principled man. Not on the surface a consummate politician, I find it hard to see that he has the political savvy to put together a winning campaign.

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2008/jun/26/the-jim-webb-story/
 
Josiah said:
Here's an in depth profile of Jim Webb written back in 2008 by Elizabeth Drew a political writer I respect. I don't know how much seven years may have changed things, I'm inclined to think not all that much because Webb is a very principled man. Not on the surface a consummate politician. I find it hard to see that he has the political savvy to put together a winning campaign.

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2008/jun/26/the-jim-webb-story/
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Thanks for the info.. I am pretty much up on the "whose who" of politics, but cannot say I know anything about him.
 
First off I will vote against GOP! I wish Webb could muster the votes to take the Dem nomination but he is fighting a huge machine that's been getting bigger and better for years. I like Clinton but I worry about the trumped up baggage she is and will be confronted with. I do think we should give a woman a shot at the oval office and if women helped her get elected we would have a woman President, but women will not support a woman in the numbers required for one to win.
 
AZ Jim said:
First off I will vote against GOP! I wish Webb could muster the votes to take the Dem nomination but he is fighting a huge machine that's been getting bigger and better for years. I like Clinton but I worry about the trumped up baggage she is and will be confronted with. I do think we should give a woman a shot at the oval office and if women helped her get elected we would have a woman President, but women will not support a woman in the numbers required for one to win.
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Are you saying women would support a man over a woman all others factors being equal?
 
Some thoughts from Jim Webb. http://bigstory.ap.org/article/96fb...etly-meeting-dems-looking-clinton-alternative

COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — Former Virginia Sen. Jim Webb says his decision whether to challenge Hillary Rodham Clinton for the Democratic presidential nomination will rest on whether he can raise enough money to be viable in running against the heavy favorite.

"It's not worth it go through this process if you have to sell out what you believe," Webb, 69, a former Navy secretary, said Wednesday between private meetings with South Carolina party leaders. "The question is, can we get the right kind of support in order to get out and make our case to the American people rather than to the financial sector?"

Webb said he wants to be a voice for working-class Americans neglected in a political system dominated by money. He says he will decide this spring whether to run.

He said raising enough money to power a campaign of his own "will be a challenge after Citizens United," the Supreme Court ruling that has helped super PACs spend staggering sums of money from corporations, unions and wealthy people.

South Carolina hosts the South's first presidential primary, weeks after the Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire primary. Of particular significance to Democrats nationally, South Carolina is the first primary state with a large African-American population.

Clinton is widely expected to announce a presidential candidacy. Her aides have promised an aggressive push in the state, where Clinton lost a bitter battle with Barack Obama in 2008 on his way to the presidency. Former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley, another prospective challenger, has made several trips to the state.

Webb did not directly criticize Clinton on Wednesday, but he argued that voters want new faces.
"What I'm seeing is that there is a leadership fatigue in this country, an incumbent fatigue from both parties," he said.

Webb served in the Senate alongside Clinton for two years before she became secretary of state. He did not seek re-election in 2012, leaving the chamber after one term.
He said he wants Democrats to return to their roots as "the party that is assisting the objectives of the people who do the hard work in our country."

He also said the U.S. needs a "clear doctrine" for when and how to use military force in conflicts.
State Democratic Chairman Jaime Harrison described Webb as "thoughtful and serious" after the two met privately, and rejected the notion that Clinton's likely candidacy makes a competitive primary impossible. "People asked the same questions in 2007," Harrison said. "Nobody saw Barack Obama as having a chance."
 
Webb announced he will run for President in 2016. http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/jim-webb-announces-2016-presidential-run-n385901


Former Virginia Sen. Jim Webb announced in an email Thursday that he will seek the Democratic nomination for president.
"I understand the odds, particularly in today's political climate where fair debate is so often drowned out by huge sums of money," Webb said in the email.
"But our country needs a fresh approach to solving the problems that confront us and too often unnecessarily divide us," he added.

Despite being the first potential candidate to launch a presidential exploratory committee last November, Webb will likely be the last Democrat to challenge frontrunner Hillary Clinton for the party's presidential nomination. Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley and former Rhode Island Sen. Lincoln Chafee have all announced 2016 campaigns in recent months.

Just four percent of Democrats chose Webb as their first choice candidate in a NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll last month, putting him well behind Clinton and Sanders. Still, Webb edged out both O'Malley and Chafee.

Webb decided not to run for re-election in 2012 after serving one term in the Senate. He came into the Senate with an upset win fueled by his opposition to the Iraq war, and during his term focused on veterans issues and criminal justice reform.

Webb is a Vietnam veteran and assistant secretary of defense and secretary of the U.S. Navy. In his email announcing his run, Webb was critical of U.S. intervention overseas, writing, "The attack in Benghazi was inevitable in some form or another."

While visiting early voting states in recent months, Webb has also championed economic fairness and lambasted the influence of money on the political process.
"I mean what I say, that if I make a promise I will keep it, and that outside my faith and my family, my greatest love will always be for this amazing country," Webb wrote to his supporters.
 
Perhaps he will be what the country is looking for and bring the country together in the middle...
 
Speaking of Bernie... Has anyone been noticing the huge crowds he is drawing? I think 10,000 in Madison WI this week.. Looks like we might finally get the grass roots revolution we've been talking about. The more people that hear him talk, the more they like him..
 

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