Are You Happy with the Country You Live In?

rickary said:
MY ancestry is Irish which I would love to visit someday. But I have always lived in the US and served in the Marine Corps and served in Viet Nam, so there is no other country for me. I have always been loyal. The current leaders in the White House is the most negative thing for the US at the time.
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It is not disloyal for an American to live in another country.
 

AS: Sorry about putting Brit by mistake - right now I'm kind of airheady. The books I bought re Scotland are: "A History of Everyday Life in Medieval Scotland" by E. J. Cowan & L. Henderson and "Scotland, the Autobiography: 2000 Years of Scottish History By Those Who Saw It Happen" by R. Goring. If you can recommend any others that you like, pls. let me know.

Rickary: My spouse is a retired Navy pilot who did four tours in Nam. He is extremely loyal in that he recognizes our President as Commander in Chief of our military with all the honor and recognition that deserves. The negative entity most rampant in our country is, most obviously, the intransigent U.S. Congress.
 

Ameriscot, I know it is not disloyal for a US citizen to live in another country and a lot of US citizens have left for various reasons. The problem is too many illegals coming in.
Kath we would have to agree to disagree.
 
Kath said:
AS: Sorry about putting Brit by mistake - right now I'm kind of airheady. The books I bought re Scotland are: "A History of Everyday Life in Medieval Scotland" by E. J. Cowan & L. Henderson and "Scotland, the Autobiography: 2000 Years of Scottish History By Those Who Saw It Happen" by R. Goring. If you can recommend any others that you like, pls. let me know.

Rickary: My spouse is a retired Navy pilot who did four tours in Nam. He is extremely loyal in that he recognizes our President as Commander in Chief of our military with all the honor and recognition that deserves. The negative entity most rampant in our country is, most obviously, the intransigent U.S. Congress.
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You aren't the only one here to use Brit to mean English only. No big deal. It's very common. Your books sound interesting. I have an entire shelf full of books on Scotland. And another that's 1/2 Ireland books and 1/2 Celts.
 
rickary said:
Ameriscot, I know it is not disloyal for a US citizen to live in another country and a lot of US citizens have left for various reasons. The problem is too many illegals coming in.
Kath we would have to agree to disagree.
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The implication in your post was that you were loyal and therefore you'd stay in the US.
 
Sorry Ameriscot, was not my intent. Why I do not post much because somebody always reads between the lines of most things I write. My problem.
 
Ameriscot said:
FYI: people often use the term 'Brit/British' to mean English only. Anyone from Great Britain is British. That includes Scotland and Wales.

Now back to your regularly scheduled programme/program. :D
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There was a time when Australians were also labelled British, long after the British Empire had dissolved. It came as a shock to discover later that we were no longer British. In my lifetime, too.
 
Rickary: I don't think folks are reading between the lines of what you write as your writings are generally confined to 1 or 1.5 lines.:D

AS: I think I will look for some books on the Celtic era which I wish I knew more about. It amazes me that schools so often teach kind of a nationalized approach to history and not a great deal about history on an international basis. However, I've only gone to school in one country, so for all I know, history as taught in other nations IS more global than it is here. However, I loved my grade school and high school years even though the nuns were pretty strict!
 
Kath well thank you I will remember that the same as I remember our Commander in Chief of our military sending Al Sharpton, whom owes the feds and New York lots of money in taxes, as an advisor to Ferguson, Mo. Another one liner for the monitor.
 
Kath said:
Rickary: I don't think folks are reading between the lines of what you write as your writings are generally confined to 1 or 1.5 lines.:D

AS: I think I will look for some books on the Celtic era which I wish I knew more about. It amazes me that schools so often teach kind of a nationalized approach to history and not a great deal about history on an international basis. However, I've only gone to school in one country, so for all I know, history as taught in other nations IS more global than it is here. However, I loved my grade school and high school years even though the nuns were pretty strict!
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History in Australia has always been rather global. Ancient history, British history, world wars and Australian discovery, exploration and colonial history. History of the Americas, not so much.

As a teacher I always taught a component of history in every subject - history of science, history of mathematics, history of computing etc.
 
DW: I think it's terrific how you introduced elements of history to the individual subjects that students take. This is a great way to enrich the learning experience and give students a more complete understanding of each subject's scope and breadth. Your students must have enjoyed your classes very much!
 
Kath said:
Rickary: I don't think folks are reading between the lines of what you write as your writings are generally confined to 1 or 1.5 lines.:D

AS: I think I will look for some books on the Celtic era which I wish I knew more about. It amazes me that schools so often teach kind of a nationalized approach to history and not a great deal about history on an international basis. However, I've only gone to school in one country, so for all I know, history as taught in other nations IS more global than it is here. However, I loved my grade school and high school years even though the nuns were pretty strict!
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The Celts are not what most people think. Everyone thinks of Scotland, Ireland, Wales. But the Celts were a huge group of people from many European countries. There was a BBC series on the Celts done back in 1987 which is still my favourite. I think you can find it on youtube but I know you can buy the DVD's. I've got both the videos and DVD's.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Celts_(BBC_documentary)

The World of the Celts by Simon James is pretty good.
 
Kath said:
DW: I think it's terrific how you introduced elements of history to the individual subjects that students take. This is a great way to enrich the learning experience and give students a more complete understanding of each subject's scope and breadth. Your students must have enjoyed your classes very much!
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I felt I was cheated in school because all we had was American history and it was all about memorizing dates, etc. My husband was educated in Glasgow and he knows far more about world history and geography, including, American, than I do. He's shocked at what we weren't taught.
 
AS: I feel much as you do about the history courses taught in our US schools. It was all about tests, pop quizzes, etc. and no time for exploring the historic intricacies existent in faraway countries. I'm not at all surprised that your husband is taken aback by how narrowly focussed history is as a subject in US schools. I believe my grandparents had the same reaction when they asked me questions about historical events which they had actually lived through but I knew zero about whatever the event was.
 
I was also educated in Glasgow, and I have to be honest and tell you that not for the first time, I have been astonished at how little Americans know about the History of anywhere other than America...and as for Geography, well that seems to be even worse....added to the fact that the average Scottish youngster left school aged 15 back in our day, well before the average American kid and yet we Scots (generally) seemed to have been taught so much more in a shorter period .
However I'm not picking on American people...it's just that the teaching system seemed to be specifically USA insular in those days and therefore left a large proportion of the Adult population believing that ''There be dragons' when it comes to knowing anything more about the rest of our huge world, and so many have an idea that anywhere other than the USA must be third world
.. . Perhaps now with the advent of the wonders of the www available in every classroom for the last 20 years American children are being taught or even learning for themselves that the world doesn't begin in Washington and end in Florida..LOL;)
 
hollydolly said:
I was also educated in Glasgow, and I have to be honest and tell you that not for the first time, I have been astonished at how little Americans know about the History of anywhere other than America...and as for Geography, well that seems to be even worse....added to the fact that the average Scottish youngster left school aged 15 back in our day, well before the average American kid and yet we Scots (generally) seemed to have been taught so much more in a shorter period .
However I'm not picking on American people...it's just that the teaching system seemed to be specifically USA insular in those days and therefore left a large proportion of the Adult population believing that ''There be dragons' when it comes to knowing anything more about the rest of our huge world, and so many have an idea that anywhere other than the USA must be third world
.. . Perhaps now with the advent of the wonders of the www available in every classroom for the last 20 years American children are being taught or even learning for themselves that the world doesn't begin in Washington and end in Florida..LOL;)
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I totally agree!
 
Holly, I think it's the same most everywhere when it comes to public school education (up to grade 12) the focus is usually on one's own country's history first. We got immersed in Canadian history and even that was sketchy. We didn't get much regarding the UK, except the major battles and dates. Further in-depth studies in history would have to be at the university level, if one chose to do so. There's just no time in high school, IMO, because there are many other subjects that we had, including languages, English, Science, and electives that for us it seemed like history was just an overview of world history and Canadian history.
 
That's the whole point of what AS and I are trying to convey cookie, that in fact we did get all that history and geography education before we were 15 ( we don't have grades in the Uk so I don't know how old Grade 12 kids are) and yes we had our own countries history but we also learned almost as much about other major countries histories too...and all of this without having to go to University, and yes like you we also had a full itinerary of other subject classes to attend to.. Maths, English, Music, Geography, Physics, Chemistry, Biology , Art, and in my specific class from the age of 12 to 15 as well as the aforementioned subjects I learned Basic Business economics which included typing and shorthand..and I left school at 15 years old.. as did the vast majority of my peers.
 
Good God, holly, that is truly amazing to me. Most kids in Canada graduate from high school (grade 12 - each year in school constitutes 1 grade) by the age of 17. To me 15 seems young to leave school and start working - or enter university or whatever came after. There was certainly a lot packed into your school years in Scotland and sounds to me like a country of very high achievers.
 
I do not know if there was a difference in the schools I attended or if it was the era...but, we had two years of US History....one year from Columbus to the Civil War. The second through WWII. Then one year of World History. The same with Geography. That of the America's and then World Geography. I find it interesting though, with the internet I have discovered many countries I have never heard of.
 
I'm with you Quik Silver. I think that our US government is controlled by money especially Congress. I wish all those war mongers and greedy money grubbing politicians would retire. We all know, that they will not leave until they are carried out, dead and that includes those 2 old codgers from Alabama . I still love America, but I hate the greedy men that run it.
 

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