Elon Musk quote: :When you wake in the morning,"

Gaer

Gaer

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Just read this today. I have a great admiration for Elon Musk.

"When you wake in the morning, be glad to be alive.
Create the possibility to have life on other planets be
part of humanity.
This can't be just about solving problems.
There needs to be things that inspire you.
Go forth. Be out there among the stars.
Expand the scope and scale of your consciousness.
I find this tremendously exciting.
That makes me glad to be alive."
 

I certainly appreciate his quote, but I'm not as enthralled with Elon Musk. He was funding satellite internet service for Ukraine, then said he was going to stop and leave it to the government to fund. His quote is hardly the quote of a philanthropist. "The hell with it"? :oops:

"Elon Musk has dropped his threat to stop providing free satellite Internet service in Ukraine — saying that he wanted to perform “good deeds” despite the cost.

The abrupt about-face came a day after the world’s richest man said his SpaceX company couldn’t afford to keep funding the high-tech Starlink connection “indefinitely.

“The hell with it … even though starlink is still losing money & other companies are getting billions of taxpayer $, we’ll just keep funding ukraine govt for free,” Musk tweeted Saturday."
 
Murrmurr said:
Musk is no stranger to receiving gov't subsidies, at both fed and state levels. He's pretty good at getting them over a barrel.
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He would be stupid not to. If a subsidy or grant is available, or a tax loophole exists, rich people don't overlook them. It's something that we lesser people that aren't aware of do. Wealthy people pay others to find these freebies.
 
Well, I was kinda hoping this quote would be inspiring and this wouldn't get into "people bashing", but it did.
Wouldn't it be wonderful if we could see the good that people do and not judge?
 
Murrmurr said:
And, I didn't say it was a bad thing. :sneaky:
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And I didn’t say you said it was a bad thing.

This is one of the reasons people don’t like getting on forums. So often their comments are taken differently than what the writer was implying.

Just like this post. I didn’t say you said it was a bad thing, but you thought I was implying it, but then again, I really don’t know if that was what you were thinking and this is how the back and forth starts.

Rule of thumb is to never speculate something that has not been written, or IOW, don’t read between the lines thinking that you know what the other person meant.

What I was implying was unlike myself, I have never taken the time to find out if I was able to receive any grants for some of the projects that I have worked on and I never kept receipts for expenditures or incomes from projects. This is what the rich do. They keep receipts for everything, including aspirin or thumbtacks. (Being a little facetious.) However, I have known people to keep receipts for every little thing they buy and then let their accountant deal with what is and what isn’t deductible.
 
Murrmurr said:
No, no, not at all - I was joking around. Sort of....I mean, federal and state subsidies aren't really a bad thing; you're offering a service, they're funding it, and regular people often benefit. But mostly the wealthy person.
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When I was in the military another Marine and I were having a discussion on developing a tracking device or instrument for incoming RPG’s. For the next few months, we would meet and draft some plans (drawings) and wrote an instruction pamphlet to go with it. When we had finished it, we went to the Colonel with the plan drawings and the instructions. We even made a mock-up of the device. It was a non working mock-up because the parts required were not available on base or in any nearby electronics store, not to mention, the cost was pretty hefty. We would have needed about $9000 to make an actual working model. We had the money, but to invest that amount into some that may not even raise an interest was too risky for us at that time. The Colonel suggested we go through the Logistics Coordinator, which we did. After he explained to us that we should apply for a grant and once we had an actual working device, then apply for a patent. This was all very overwhelming to us and we decided to quit the plan. It was about 2 years later, tanks began showing up with the device already installed. There were a few subtle differences, but it was pretty much a copy of our design. Lockheed Martin was the contractor. The other Marine and I got into a pretty heated argument over this because we blamed each other for selling the plans. In the end, we found out the plans were left with the Logistics Coordinator, who we blamed for selling them, but he claimed that he tossed them after we told him we were dropping the move forward. But did he?
 
Been There said:
When I was in the military another Marine and I were having a discussion on developing a tracking device or instrument for incoming RPG’s. For the next few months, we would meet and draft some plans (drawings) and wrote an instruction pamphlet to go with it. When we had finished it, we went to the Colonel with the plan drawings and the instructions. We even made a mock-up of the device. It was a non working mock-up because the parts required were not available on base or in any nearby electronics store, not to mention, the cost was pretty hefty. We would have needed about $9000 to make an actual working model. We had the money, but to invest that amount into some that may not even raise an interest was too risky for us at that time. The Colonel suggested we go through the Logistics Coordinator, which we did. After he explained to us that we should apply for a grant and once we had an actual working device, then apply for a patent. This was all very overwhelming to us and we decided to quit the plan. It was about 2 years later, tanks began showing up with the device already installed. There were a few subtle differences, but it was pretty much a copy of our design. Lockheed Martin was the contractor. The other Marine and I got into a pretty heated argument over this because we blamed each other for selling the plans. In the end, we found out the plans were left with the Logistics Coordinator, who we blamed for selling them, but he claimed that he tossed them after we told him we were dropping the move forward. But did he?
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I was granted a sweet financial sum because state park workers neglected to post "prohibited" signs where I'd fallen off a cliff. I can't even remember all the investment ideas pushed at me by friends, family, and virtual strangers. First thing I did, of course, was to hire a reputable financial advisor, and the first thing I asked him to do was skip the BS and recommend a few *reputable* off-shore banks. I literally broke my back for that money. I'd probably do as you did under the same circumstances.
 
I agree with Gaer that Musk's outlook is hopeful, joyful and is definitely 21st century. And strangely parallels Star Trek's "to go where no man has gone before".
But, when most of wake up, we haven't earned another $ billion.
 
fuzzybuddy said:
I agree with Gaer that Musk's outlook is hopeful, joyful and is definitely 21st century. And strangely parallels Star Trek's "to go where no man has gone before".
But, when most of wake up, we haven't earned another $ billion.
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True, but I don't think he is in it for the money. I think he sincerely wants to help mankind
 
dseag2 said:
I certainly appreciate his quote, but I'm not as enthralled with Elon Musk. He was funding satellite internet service for Ukraine, then said he was going to stop and leave it to the government to fund. His quote is hardly the quote of a philanthropist. "The hell with it"? :oops:

"Elon Musk has dropped his threat to stop providing free satellite Internet service in Ukraine — saying that he wanted to perform “good deeds” despite the cost.

The abrupt about-face came a day after the world’s richest man said his SpaceX company couldn’t afford to keep funding the high-tech Starlink connection “indefinitely.

“The hell with it … even though starlink is still losing money & other companies are getting billions of taxpayer $, we’ll just keep funding ukraine govt for free,” Musk tweeted Saturday."
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Let’s be real, Ukraine is a very needy country. They wouldn’t even be a competitor in their war with Russia if it weren’t for U.S. borrowed dollars. This is what really gripes my ass. Every dollar we send to Ukraine is borrowed. Our next generations will be the debt owners of these dollars. Using Afghanistan as an example, just look at how much money we sent to their president, Ghani, and he ran off with a boatload of U.S. dollars. Are we again being played? We have sent billions of borrowed dollars to Ukraine. How can we be sure all of it is going to fight the war? It’s also been reported that Europe is not paying their fair share as promised.

According to Politico, Ukraine has stated that they will need $3.5 billion per month next year to continue their war with Russia. Ukraine has stated that they are depending on the U.S. to send $1.5 billion per month. Of course, this will be borrowed money. Meanwhile here at home, we have families trying to feed their children nourishing meals and not just Mac & cheese. This has become a very costly war to the American people who really has no dog in this fight. We have zero interest in Ukraine, yet hand them billions of borrowed dollars. How does this even make any sense? No one wants to see them be run by the Communists, but at the end of the day, that may be the outcome anyway and if that happens, guess whose faces will be red once again?
https://www.politico.eu/article/eur...e-billion-ukraine-aid-package-detail-unclear/
 
Where would we, and the rest of the world be if we let Putin have his way. Better to fight the war now when Russia is hurting, and in Ukraine, rather than later, when they have had time to recover, and bring war closer to home. The U.S, in general didn't want to enter WW2, but had we not come to the rescue, It would very likely be a very different world, and not for the better.
 

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