Notice to Miami Beach Condo Residents: Get Out Now

Robert59

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14-story complex deemed unsafe, evacuated is down the street from Surfside condo that collapsed.


Residents of a Miami Beach, Fla., building on the same street where a condominium collapse killed nearly 100 people last year were forced to evacuate on Thursday evening after officials determined the structure was unsafe and gave orders to leave. Miami Beach spokesperson Melissa Berthier said around 4pm Thursday that the city planned to post an "unsafe structure" notice and order residents of the 14-story Port Royale building to vacate immediately,

https://www.newser.com/story/327230/notice-to-miami-beach-condo-residents-get-out-now.html
 

bowmore said:
The main reason for the Surfside collapse was due to inaction by the HOA board who did not want to spend the money to fix the building correctly. The result was destruction of the building and loss of lives.
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Money saved = money earned.
 

ArnoldC said:
What happens to these folks in the meantime? Are they required by law to continue paying for a condo that is posted as an unsafe structure? It could and probably will take years to get any sort of resolution through the legal system.
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Well, based on what I know about condos, the owners have a mortgage. At least those that have not paid it off already. Their mortgage contract with a financial institution has to be honored regardless of the livable circumstances.
 
This is unfortunate, but not too surprising. My family has had involvement in development in south Florida going back over 100 years. History repeats itself, over and over again...
fuzzybuddy said:
I don't know how true it was, but Florida , years ago, was considered a "good ol' boy" state= for a few bucks, you didn't have to follow all those costly building rules.
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Yep, it was certainly true in the Florida I knew. It is interesting to look at aerials of the damage after Hurricane Andrew, adjoining neighborhoods of similar age and appearance, one flattened and one pretty much ok. Depends on who the builders, developers, and building inspectors were.
ArnoldC said:
What happens to these folks in the meantime? Are they required by law to continue paying for a condo that is posted as an unsafe structure?
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I guess it depends on contracts and ownership. However if these folks are the owners then they are responsible.

Might have some recourse against the developer or former owners, but that will be hard to collect on. Pretty much the same for anyone who buys a house with structural or other problems.
 
I meant to post about this a couple of days ago. I feel for those people who paid Lord only knows what for their condos, not to mention the sometimes exorbitant HOA fees, to now be (temporarily lets hope) homeless. Since the evacuation was a preventative measure, hopefully the building can be repaired well enough for residents to be able to return and be safe. One of the residents, who was interviewed on the news, said he and others had told the board about the safety issues and showed pictures of the damage but nothing was ever done. I would hope the residents have some sort of legal courses of action that can be taken to cover the cost of their temporary housing (if it's hotels) and release from having to pay any further mortgage and HOA fees, at least while the building is being repaired.
 
I am glad you feel pretty safe! I was thinking of all the unexpected events that effect so many people. Happening all over. I don't need to explain what or where, because we hear about something almost everyday now. I hope it is safe to go vote next week. Just kidding. I too am feeling safe enough. I hope that our future will be safe, but I don't want to take many chances at this point.
 
Alligatorob said:
I think most of these are condos individually owned. Some of those owners may have rented, but a lot are owner occupied. That's the way a lot of these beach developments are.

Relief for those owners will be harder to get.
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This is the one where the ground collapsed and the building as a whole was condemned, imo, that still voids any contract.
 
ohioboy said:
imo, that still voids any contract.
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Would that include the old or newer sales contracts and mortgages?

This appears to be a 50+ year old building and most of the units were sold long ago. And I suspect the current owners likely purchased from other owners more recently, not from the developer 50 years ago.

I am sure anyone who is renting one of these from the current owner can get out of the lease, but I suspect that isn't the majority. And would provide no relief to the current owners.

https://theportroyale.com/
palides2021 said:
I have to ask this @ohioboy, what is a "Registered nitwit?"
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Don't know, but @ohioboy is no nitwit.

I still like the title, LOL.
 
As the oceans continue to rise, and further "soak" the sand that most of the Florida seaside properties are built on, more buildings will become dangerous. If the climate predictions are correct, most of Florida will be flooded in a few more decades.
 
Don M. said:
As the oceans continue to rise, and further "soak" the sand that most of the Florida seaside properties are built on, more buildings will become dangerous. If the climate predictions are correct, most of Florida will be flooded in a few more decades.
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Yep, catastrophic! And it seems to be coming.

Florida isn't alone, Louisiana and a lot of other places too.
 

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