Ban gas cooking ranges?

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Fyrefox

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In December, a scientific study was published that indicates that gas cooking ranges emit fumes that can account for up to 13% of childhood asthma cases. Apparently as a result of this, government banning of gas ranges is on the table in the U.S., although not a strong likelihood.

So how about it? Is this another instance of government overreach? Do any of you still cook with gas? My parents did, and I never developed asthma...and remember when the expression “Now you’re cookin‘ with gas!” meant that you were into the latest, greatest thing?!
 

I have used gas for the last 5 years. I like it better than electric because it’s more controllable. Alsway gave FA’s water heater and gas dryer.
 
States are already banning them on new construction along with incentive to convert. Problem is with electric installed new or retro fitted is that electric cooking appliances more than double normal house current. Most electric stoves and ovens require a 40A -50A dedicated circuit/breaker. Average house outlet is 15A. Some places require all new electric be placed in steel conduit as well.

It's not just the cost of the appliance if someone wants to convert the electrician's bill and mess left behind could be costly being they might have to remove cut holes in walls to place conduit and run wire to the breaker box.

Setting the residential logistics aside the electric grid and power generation capabilities lag and are not ready for the increase in demand from electric appliances. Also theoretically there could be power surges early evenings in some neighborhoods when people cook their evening meal, do laundry(electric dryer use) and/or turn on electric heat. Sudden use surges could cause blackouts/grid failures.

It's an all your eggs in one basket strategy. Gas is proven alternative and back up in some cases.
 
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I grew up with gas stoves. I've also had electric stoves. Now I have a dual-fuel stove with a propane cooktop and an electric convection oven. I love it. I also have a freestanding induction cooktop, which I frequently use.

3 Differences between Propane and Natural Gas > https://genesee-energy.com/3-differences-between-propane-and-natural-gas/

Except from the article:

"Clean and Green: While both natural gas and propane are clean burning, Propane is considered a green fuel, where natural gas is not. The difference is that propane is eco-friendly both before and after combustion. Propane is non-toxic and not damaging to the environment when leaked into the atmosphere. Natural gas, on the other hand, is composed mainly of methane, which when leaked into the environment before combustion is one of the biggest contributors to greenhouse gases."

Bella ✌️
 
Bella said:
I grew up with gas stoves. I've also had electric stoves. Now I have a dual-fuel stove with a propane cooktop and an electric convection oven. I love it. I also have a freestanding induction cooktop, which I frequently use.

3 Differences between Propane and Natural Gas > https://genesee-energy.com/3-differences-between-propane-and-natural-gas/

Except from the article:

"Clean and Green: While both natural gas and propane are clean burning, Propane is considered a green fuel, where natural gas is not. The difference is that propane is eco-friendly both before and after combustion. Propane is non-toxic and not damaging to the environment when leaked into the atmosphere. Natural gas, on the other hand, is composed mainly of methane, which when leaked into the environment before combustion is one of the biggest contributors to greenhouse gases."

Bella ✌️
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Here in Canada many large national fleet operators like Canada Post and the RCMP use propane fueled vehicles. You can order a propane powered vehicle from General Motors, Ford, Chrysler, Honda, and VW in Canada, direct from the factory. Here in Canada propane as a motor fuel is about HALF the price of gasoline or diesel at the pump. Obviously a propane bar b q used to cook meat will not raise any eyebrows in the USA, but powering vehicles with it is unusual. Think about the thousands of propane powered lift trucks that work all day inside factories all across the USA. I have had a number of work vans powered by propane, that I bought used from Canada Post. One Ford van I had ran up over 600,000 MILES before I sold it to a local moving company that ran it for another 200,000 MILES before it finally died. Propane vehicles are clean and long lasting. JImB.
 
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Fyrefox said:
In December, a scientific study was published that indicates that gas cooking ranges emit fumes that can account for up to 13% of childhood asthma cases. Apparently as a result of this, government banning of gas ranges is on the table in the U.S., although not a strong likelihood.

So how about it? Is this another instance of government overreach? Do any of you still cook with gas? My parents did, and I never developed asthma...and remember when the expression “Now you’re cookin‘ with gas!” meant that you were into the latest, greatest thing?!
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My mother had no lung issues and came from Texas/New Mexico south and her brothers too, none died from lung issues, just diabetes, or truck accident.
 
hollydolly said:
of course... I've cooked with Gas all of my life... NO Childhood Asthma here...

I prefer Electricity because it's cleaner than Gas, but it's less responsive and controllable for cooking..
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I feel the same. It's much harder than electricity. No childhood in my home either.
 
Last time I stayed in a hotel for a couple of days, I made grilled cheese sandwiches in a large pan. With the gas I couldn’t get an even low heat on the pan. At home I’d use the large ring and everything would be consistent.

I’ve had many gas ranges and wouldn’t thank you for another. If I ever have to buy a new stove, it’ll be induction.

hollydolly said:
I prefer Electricity because it's cleaner than Gas, but it's less responsive and controllable for cooking..
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Agree.

jimintoronto said:
Propane vehicles are clean and long lasting.
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Not always. Had one many years ago. Hated it. It’s not always easy to find a garage for fill ups when travelling.
 
Fyrefox said:
In December, a scientific study was published that indicates that gas cooking ranges emit fumes that can account for up to 13% of childhood asthma cases. Apparently as a result of this, government banning of gas ranges is on the table in the U.S., although not a strong likelihood.
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First things first. Read the study. Not what the news media says about it. The actualy study. You don't underrstand the technical words and phrases? Well neither did the reporter who wrote the article. Then wait for others in the scientific community to comment on the study.

The field of human health is saturated with 'bad science'. Remember when low-fat sugary yogurt was healthier than plain full fat yogurt? Or Fruit Loops were given a healthy heart OK by a famous heart disease group? That was nonsense. Lots of bad science and even more people who were willing to exploit it for various reasons. Nothing is more common that some group paying for a study to advance its agenda.

Then after all of the above, think about where the additional electricity will come from. How will it get to your home? Whose property will the power lines cross? Will more coal or natural gas be burned to produce the electricity? Or will there be power shortages in the future? Solar and wind power have huge land-use issues. Would you like a giant windmill near your home? Or a solar farm covering pristine undeveloped land? Or another dam that floods a canyon and reroutes rivers? Perhaps more nuclear power plants?

None of this is simple.
 
Jules said:
Last time I stayed in a hotel for a couple of days, I made grilled cheese sandwiches in a large pan. With the gas I couldn’t get an even low heat on the pan. At home I’d use the large ring and everything would be consistent.

I’ve had many gas ranges and wouldn’t thank you for another. If I ever have to buy a new stove, it’ll be induction.


Agree.


Not always. Had one many years ago. Hated it. It’s not always easy to find a garage for fill ups when travelling.
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All of the Canadian petroleum companies produce national listings of their propane stations. When I was running all over Canada as a expedite delivery driver with a Ford cargo van that burned propane I had 3 lists one for Esso, one for Petro Canada and one for Superior Propane. I never ran out. JimB.
 

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